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Within the last hour or so South Korea has announced 120 new cases and 2 new deaths.
Total is now 556 and 4. The total of new cases in China ex-Hubei was only 18 and there was one death. |
Anonymous
| Do you think the WHO is waiting for other countries to catch up to China outside of Hubei Province before calling this a pandemic? |
Anonymous
This was the first post of the thread on Jan 21. 300 cases reported and 6 deaths. one month later 78,766 cases and 2,461 deaths. And that is with severe countermeasures being taken such as cordon sanitaire around Hubei Province. |
Anonymous
THIS. This is honestly the only thing I've started doing. What drove me to it is seeing how quick these clusters have come up around the world and then how bam overnight -- that entire town in Italy or Iran or whatever is quarantined. I realize there would be steps in place to allow people to eat -- even in provinces in China most allow 1 household member to go out daily to grocery stores which must remain open; plus there's takeout and grocery delivery. But reality is you wouldn't WANT to go out, even if you could. Would you really want to be at the grocery store touching shopping carts and self check out screens if you didn't have to? Plus while you'd eventually have to rely on takeout (bc how much can anyone stockpile), would you really want to be wondering if someone sneezed near your dinner when prepping it or if the guy bagging your groceries for delivery felt well? As someone who is a pretty lazy grocery shopper (no kids so no one relying on us to food) and thus uses everything up, goes out for several nights, and THEN says -- ok maybe I should go to the store bc I have no food, my home doesn't have the stockpile that many families already maintain bc they eat at home 7 nights/wk, make school lunches etc. Not going crazy about it, but I find myself picking up 1-2 boxes of pasta or a jar of peanut butter or a large box of cereal whether I need them or not each time I go to the store. Have thrown some extra frozen veggies in my freezer too. And picked up an extra 2 spray bottles of clorox, a few extra hand soaps, bc I figure you'd want that type of thing on hand too. For the PP that's paycheck to paycheck -- I feel for you but you really don't need a lot. Just try to see if you can spend an extra $2-5 dollars each time you shop (or cut it out of something else that is a want not a need) and then you can grab a few boxes of pasta, bag of rice, peanut butter etc. The type of food that you don't need tons of but it can sustain you for a while. Frankly -- lentils and rice would be perfect for this -- may have to get some of those. |
Anonymous
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I think it is valuable to be able to isolate the World numbers from the Total cases and look at them. The spread ratio
and Cases to death ratio is very different from Chinese numbers. Just to keep things in perspective. This is total history of cases outside of China up untill today morning: Coronavirus cases outside of China on Saturday Total cases: 1200 Deaths: 8 In: 26 countries |
Anonymous
So far Coronavirus case outside of China have a very low mortality rate. Much much much lower then SARS and MERS. It is 1 death in 150 cases. It is not even one percent. Of course that those poor eight people are not a horrible and tragic loss. Yet those numbers are indicating that perhaps the healthcare or weather or something is at play that people are doing better. Also, possibly many cases are relatively new so the disease is taking it's course and outcome is not yet know, however at this moment this is what it is.
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Anonymous
Totally random -- but this reminds me -- have a stockpile of whatever your preferred caffeine is as well. Rice and beans and PBJ are totally fine, but there are those that get serious caffeine headaches if they don't have their starbucks daily and bc they get their coffee outside the home 5 days/wk, they tend not to keep much on hand at home. I mean it'd be a serious scary situation so you'd obviously survive however you had to and wouldn't venture out to the store for k cups or hershey bars or whatever your thing is, but if stuck at home - why be miserable. I mean at the beginning (and probably still - haven't looked), I saw many videos of people in China even Wuhan who were well and just trying to entertain themselves whether with sock puppets or running in place or table tennis. Why make yourself miserable if you don't have to. |
Anonymous
For anyone who knows anything about viruses -- do viruses behave differently in different "geographies?" Like is a virus born in China more at home in China's climate and then weakens as it travels; it can't just be about temperature because temps are likely pretty hot in Singapore and this is going strong. But is it possible it needs a specific temp range + humidity or pollution level or something and then when it gets to a wildly different place, the virus weakens? I mean the variances across the world could be anything -- maybe it's simply that other countries are not yet out of vents/respirators and can dedicate their full medical attention to the # of people in their nation that has it. Could also be that while other places are doing lock downs, it appears to be lock down in your own home/hotel. Wuhan OTOH started dragging people out with symptoms and putting them side by side in high school gyms which also didn't have sufficient sanitation like hand washing, bathroom access etc. -- that has got to up the numbers bc some % of people with regular colds were bound to catch it. |
Anonymous
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Infrared thermometers
This is not a rocket science.. the rocket science, principle is very simplle and clearly it can relatively accurately measure the temperature from a large distance, even at 16 feet it can focus on 1 inch sampling field. How is IR used to determine temperature? All matter emits energy in the form of IR (heat). If there is a temperature difference between objects, including the surrounding environment, then this gradient can be measured and used. If the object in question is at the same temperature as its surroundings, the net radiation energy exchange will be zero. In either case, the characteristic spectrum of the radiation depends on the object and the surrounding absolute temperature. Handheld IR thermometers take advantage of this "radiation dependence" on temperature to produce a value for the targeted object and to display the results for the operator to read. IR light works like visible light—it can be focused, reflected or absorbed. Handheld IR thermometers typically use a lens to focus light from one object onto a detector, called a thermopile. The thermopile absorbs the IR radiation and turns it into heat. The more IR energy, the hotter the thermopile gets. This heat is turned into electricity. The electricity is sent to a detector, which uses it to determine the temperature of whatever the thermometer is pointed at. The more electricity, the hotter the object. The higher the temperature, the more electricity sent to the detector, the higher the reading. Handheld Infrared Thermometer Advantages Handheld IR thermometers are fast, accurate and convenient—ideal for remote monitoring. The noncontact feature allows temperature measurements to be taken without touching the product being tested. This is not only important for the safety of the worker but also limits potential product contamination. The response time (detection to display) of an IR thermometer is typically about one-half second. Maximum measuring distance is determined by the quality of the internal optics and atmospheric conditions. A handheld IR thermometer can only measure the surface temperature of an object and not the internal temperature. Because the maximum measuring range and accuracy can be affected by atmospheric conditions (water vapor or carbon dioxide) the maximum range is generally limited to approximately 100 feet. Accuracy The accuracy of the handheld IR thermometer is primarily determined by the distance-to-spot ratio (D/S Ratio). This ratio is the size of the area being evaluated by the IR thermometer as it relates to distance. In other words, the area being measured becomes larger as the distance increases. The smaller the target, the closer you should be to it. This ratio will have a significant impact on the accuracy or precision of the reading. If the target you are measuring is six inches in size, and your handheld infrared thermometer has a D/S ratio of eight to one, then the maximum distance at which you can reliably measure the temperature of the target is 48 inches (8:1 x 6 = 48). Beyond this distance, not only is the target being measured, but whatever else falls within the "spot" is being measured as well. This means that if a very hot object is the target, and it is in cooler surroundings, then measurements taken beyond the maximum distance will include cooler elements, lowering the "average" of what is in the "spot." As the target size decreases, or the distance to the target increases, a larger D/S ratio becomes necessary. Using the same example and changing first the target size and then the D/S ratio, you see that this formula helps you decide the correct D/S ratio and, subsequently, the handheld IR thermometer for your needs: This image shows how big is the measured spot depending on the distance. The further you stand the bigger the spot the closer, the smaller. Still at 16 feet it is still ONLY ONE INCH so it is not like it is gigantic. 
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Anonymous
You might find interesting the table on the MERS virus page. It is a virus that originated in the Middle East and did not like much to dwell anywhere else. You would need to cross reference the time of spread and the weather conditions in the countries it ended up but it would probably give you a good picture of how it did not like one place and liked another and so on. I would guess there is some truth to the fact that some viruses do seem to "perform" better in certain areas. Is it just temperature and humid preferences or is there more to it we are yet to find out from someone who knows for sure. see the table here, scroll down half way into the page it is on the right side: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndrome |
Anonymous
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Stats snapshot. 78,770 cases. 2,461 deceased. 22,611 recovered. WHO mortality: 3.12%. Completed Case Mortality: 9.82%
Just a flu, nothing to see here.. |
Anonymous
Even China is still to catch up with Hubei Province. The virus is way less present then Hubei. Cases for individual Chinese provinces reported: 2020-02-21 T10:13:09 When you look at the numbers Hubei is unparallelly to any other province. I am not an expert on Chinese geography but I would assume a province or a large city is a huge population unit and most of them have under 1000 cases if not less. Hubei 62662 Guangdong 1333 Henan 1267 Zhejiang 1203 Hunan 1011 Anhui 988 Jiangxi 934 Shandong 749 Jiangsu 631 Chongqing 572 Sichuan 525 Heilongjiang 479 Beijing 396 Shanghai 334 Hebei 308 Fujian 293 Guangxi 246 Shaanxi 245 Yunnan 174 Hainan 168 Guizhou 146 Shanxi 132 Tianjin 132 Liaoning 121 Gansu 91 Jilin 91 Xinjiang 76 Inner Mongolia 75 Ningxia 71 Qinghai 18 data source: Table on this page, next to the live map: http://coronaviruslivemap.com/ |
Anonymous
| Well we will all build immunity once it hits. |
Anonymous
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I am Indian-American, we use lots of lentils and beans anyway. PPs suggesting beans, lentils and rice are spot in, that’s what we did 2 weeks back, stocked the pantry with 2 large 20lb rice bags, lots of lentils, beans etc. I also stocked pasta, dried milk, tomato sauce in cans, ginger/garlic paste because I wouldn’t want to go out and pick fresh.
I hope and pray things remain okay and this will all be for nothing but we have 2 little kids so I owe it to them to prepare. |
Anonymous
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In China..
Number of cases for Hubei do not reflect the correlation with number of citizens in the provice. Other provinces are smaller and they tend to have more consistent case numbers respectively. Guandong though seeems to have less cases then others considering it is twice the size of other provinces in the example below. It must be some other factors. Possibly Hubei being a city of a very densely populated city? Guangdong low density? Climate? Population profile?.. other factors.. ? Hubei has population of 58.8 million and has 62662 cases Guangdong has population of 111 million and has 1333 cases Henan population 94 million and has 1267 cases Zhejiang population 57 million and has 1203 cases Hunan population 67 million and has 1011 cases |