Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No that’s not the way government work. Who could have predicted this type of thing would happen.

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health/Center for Health Security hosted a Pandemic Exercise May 2018. LOTS of people have been thinking about and preparing for this type of thing.

Maybe not the Chinese government. They seem to have screwed the pooch on this one.

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted the Clade X pandemic tabletop exercise on May 15, 2018, in Washington, DC. The purpose of the exercise was to illustrate high-level strategic decisions and policies that the United States and the world will need to pursue in order to prevent a pandemic or diminish its consequences should prevention fail.

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events/2018_clade_x_exercise/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

We live paycheck to paycheck and just had a huge car expense. We only have enough money to buy groceries a week in advance. What should we do? I’m kinda nervous.

This is just not necessary. Even people in Wuhan are still able to order food and groceries for delivery and are allowed to visit the store as necessary. No need to hoard supplies with so few cases in this country right now. The likelihood of being unable to leave the house is just not in the realm of possibility right now.

[Anonymous]

Italy now has 77 cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has 77 cases.

57 new cases today alone. Italy now has more cases than Hong Kong. It is said that the high number is due to intensive testing.

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Italy: 79 cases in 5 regions. 33 are hospitalized. 18 cases are in serious condition in intensive care. Towns with cases are called "hotbed areas". 10 or 11 of them will be closed of for a time. No one in or out of the town. No activities. This will go on for "a couple of weeks"

These are smaller towns, not cities like Milan (for the moment)

Extraordinary CDM
On Saturday evening an extraordinary CDM issued a decree law with a series of special measures to contain the spread of Coronavirus.
It was decided to ban entry and exit in the so-called "hotbed areas", 10 municipalities in the Lodi area and the municipality of Vò Euganeo in Veneto

Coronavirus: the 11 Municipalities in quarantine in Lombardy and Veneto
Eleven municipalities in the Lodi area and in the Veneto region are affected by the coronavirus emergency and by the relevant measures taken by the authorities to prevent the spread of the virus. Here is the complete list: Vo 'Euganeo, Codogno, Castiglione d'Adda, Casalpusterlengo, Fombio, Maleo, Somaglia, Bertonico, Terranova dei Passerini, Castelgerundo and San Fiorano.

In a decree prohibiting exit and entry from outbreak areas
"Prohibition of all individuals present in the municipality or area from leaving the municipality or the affected area"; "ban on access to the municipality or area concerned"; "suspension of events or initiatives of any nature, of events and of any form of meeting in a public or private place, including those of a cultural, recreational, sporting and religious nature, even if carried out in closed places open to the public". These are some of the measures contained in the decree law approved this evening by the Council of Ministers. Other measures also include "the suspension of early childhood and school education services of all levels, as well as the attendance of school and higher education activities, except for distance learning activities",

50 thousand people will not be able to leave their municipalities
About 50 thousand Italians will be affected by the measures launched by the government to stem the spread of coronavirus. This was stated by the Prime Minister, Giuseppe Conte. "There are about 3,500 residents of the municipality of Vo 'Euganeo, in the ten municipalities of the Lodi area we are talking about a much larger number, about 47 thousand, who will also be able to circulate within the municipalities", he explained. "If initiatives such as those of the family who moved away spread - he added - we would risk not being able to contain the epidemic risk anymore. For this reason we must adopt restrictive measures for a couple of weeks, because these are the incubation times and the times that we will allow to contain the outbreak, "he concluded.

Borrelli, 79 infected, 33 hospitalized
"79 people are affected by the coronavirus, located in 5 regions: 54 of them are in Lombardy, 17 in Veneto, 2 in Emilia Romagna, 2 in Lazio and 1 in Piedmont. At present 33 people are hospitalized with symptoms, of which 18 in intensive care, 11 instead are in home isolation. Two died, while one person was discharged from Spallanzani ". The head of Civil Protection Angelo Borrelli said it at the end of the CDM.

https://tg24.sky.it/cronaca/2020/02/22/coronavirus-italia-ultime-notizie-diretta.html?intcmp=hp-tg24_hero_main-title_null

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has 77 cases.

57 new cases today alone. Italy now has more cases than Hong Kong. It is said that the high number is due to intensive testing.

Anyone have a quick answer on how it spread to Italy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has 77 cases.

57 new cases today alone. Italy now has more cases than Hong Kong. It is said that the high number is due to intensive testing.

Anyone have a quick answer on how it spread to Italy?

No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has more cases than Hong Kong.

Hong Kong recognized the need for immediate action and closed (or didn't reopen after the holiday) ALL the schools. That is how we are going to be able to slow down spread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No that’s not the way government work. Who could have predicted this type of thing would happen.

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health/Center for Health Security hosted a Pandemic Exercise May 2018. LOTS of people have been thinking about and preparing for this type of thing.

Maybe not the Chinese government. They seem to have screwed the pooch on this one.

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted the Clade X pandemic tabletop exercise on May 15, 2018, in Washington, DC. The purpose of the exercise was to illustrate high-level strategic decisions and policies that the United States and the world will need to pursue in order to prevent a pandemic or diminish its consequences should prevention fail.

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events/2018_clade_x_exercise/index.html

They have a great real time map too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has 77 cases.

57 new cases today alone. Italy now has more cases than Hong Kong. It is said that the high number is due to intensive testing.

Wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has 77 cases.

57 new cases today alone. Italy now has more cases than Hong Kong. It is said that the high number is due to intensive testing.

Anyone have a quick answer on how it spread to Italy?

It's been there for a while but no one tested for it (after all it is flu season). One of those who died was an 80-year-old man who'd been in the hospital for at least 10 days before they tested for the virus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has 77 cases.

57 new cases today alone. Italy now has more cases than Hong Kong. It is said that the high number is due to intensive testing.

Anyone have a quick answer on how it spread to Italy?

It's been there for a while but no one tested for it (after all it is flu season). One of those who died was an 80-year-old man who'd been in the hospital for at least 10 days before they tested for the virus.

Yeah, I bet the 38 year old got it from the hospital when he went in to get his cough checked. They said he felt better after the cold, then got sick.
It does say that of the people who tested positive, two are a Chinese couple from Wuhan, so maybe they brought it to the area.
Guardian article says they've tested 250 people, so it's not particularly encouraging that they've had more than 25% positives. Also very discouraging the number that are classified as critical -- way above the 10% figure that I've seen floated before (although perhaps that is in part due to the fact that they have been testing a lot of people at the hospital, most of whom were already sick).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guardian article says they've tested 250 people, so it's not particularly encouraging that they've had more than 25% positives.

They aren't doing random screenings; they are testing contacts of those already ill (sports team, friends, family members, colleagues) so it makes sense they'd have a lot of positives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.



We live paycheck to paycheck and just had a huge car expense. We only have enough money to buy groceries a week in advance. What should we do? I’m kinda nervous.

Don't panic. I would take reasonable measures like hand washing and social distancing.

Stock up on ramen noodles. The whole case of 24 is like 5 bucks. You can survive on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

We live paycheck to paycheck and just had a huge car expense. We only have enough money to buy groceries a week in advance. What should we do? I’m kinda nervous.

Things like a large bag of rice, dried beans, bag of oatmeal can be a good start and last. Each week toss one or two extra items in to keep on hand like frozen vegetables or fruit, few cans of soup, dried pasta etc.

Try local charity.