School residency cheaters investigated

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think an examination of rosniak's wife's workplace would show more graft and waste of taxpayer dollars than all the Maryland cheaters in the world. It appears to be a "foundation" for female healthcare executives. To... have female health care executives.

Yeah, yeah, we get it, Ms. Walton. You want to shift the topic to your personal investigation of the reporters involved, their colleges, and their wedding registries. Unfortunately for you, none of those things demonstrate fraud.

Neither do parking tickets, or someone driving a car with Maryland plates, which seems to be a point you're too thick to understand if it isn't spelled out for you.

One bush league reporter has a wife in charge of a dubious nonprofit, which doesn't actually seem.to exist much besides its website; and doesn't think he personally should have to pay traffic tickets because DC is bad and he doesn't live there. Plus, he and his wife have horrible taste. The other bush league reporter is against birth control, gays, and thinks the Bible can guide her in the path of righteousness... for journalism.

All of this is as beside the point--any point at all--as someone Dearing bankruptcy in 1999.

[Anonymous]

Declaring.

You want to do a story on residency fraud? Grow a set of balls and do a real story. The daily caller's is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've mentioned it before here -- there's a real problem with the process/residency requirements. If my kid's school was considered 100 percent compliant for DC residency verification based on required documentation, yet I know of a few MD residents who attend, there is a serious problem with people falsifying documents.

The administration says everything is A ok according to OSSE, nothing to see here. So then the burden of proof is on random parents who have the balls and or care enough to report license plates, names, etc. Or reporters who follow people home. Why can't there be a better system in place for identifying false documents? I'd like to know how exactly OSSE completes an audit.

Re bold point #1. People are able to obtain papers that prove they live in DC and unless OSSE receives a tip on the residency fraud hotline, there's not much that can be done.

Re bold point #2. You can see what OSSE does and what is required of registrars during the audit here. http://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think lots of the pro-cheater posters would be singing a different tune if the cheater profiled had been a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda?

Do you actually think these reporters would have picked a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda to follow home?

[Anonymous]

More on the audit process including count day procedures. http://osse.dc.gov/node/670222

OSSE auditors pull residency paperwork for 10% of enrolled students, picked randomly.

For schools where there have been problems in the past or OSSE finds issues, the sample is larger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think lots of the pro-cheater posters would be singing a different tune if the cheater profiled had been a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda?

Do you actually think these reporters would have picked a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda to follow home?

No one is pro cheater. Several of us think you are a really really bad journalist though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Declaring.

You want to do a story on residency fraud? Grow a set of balls and do a real story. The daily caller's is not.

1. Driving a car with Maryland plates.
2. Living in a house in Maryland.
3. Working in Maryland.
4. Declaring a Maryland address in court papers 1999-2013.

What was the evidence of DC residency again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think lots of the pro-cheater posters would be singing a different tune if the cheater profiled had been a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda?

Do you actually think these reporters would have picked a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda to follow home?

I do. That would have gotten even more interest.

[Anonymous]

The real violators in this case are the non-DCPS "preschools" that OSSE supports and pays to take PK3 and PK4s.

There's no mid- high-SES competition for these as most of them are in obscure Ward 5, 7, 8 neighborhoods.

Based on my observations they are nearly 100% MDers dropping off their kids on the way to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Declaring.

You want to do a story on residency fraud? Grow a set of balls and do a real story. The daily caller's is not.

1. Driving a car with Maryland plates.
2. Living in a house in Maryland.
3. Working in Maryland.
4. Declaring a Maryland address in court papers 1999-2013.

What was the evidence of DC residency again?

The evidence they presented to the school, in the year 2016. Evidence that you, despite digging through this woman's exes trash, are not privy to see. Because it is none of your damn business.

Did you show her proof of address in 2016? Nope. Are DC residents not allowed to work in Maryland? Are children not allowed to have parents with different residences?

And while we're wondering, I'm touched that living in Virginia, a state with almost no tax burden for its residents, you still care so deeply about my taxes. Not enough, mind you, to move into the district where you work... or pay your own traffic tickets, but still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think lots of the pro-cheater posters would be singing a different tune if the cheater profiled had been a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda?

Do you actually think these reporters would have picked a wealthy two-lawyer family from Bethesda to follow home?

I do. That would have gotten even more interest.

Totally would have. We would have all been amused by that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Declaring.

You want to do a story on residency fraud? Grow a set of balls and do a real story. The daily caller's is not.

1. Driving a car with Maryland plates.
2. Living in a house in Maryland.
3. Working in Maryland.
4. Declaring a Maryland address in court papers 1999-2013.

What was the evidence of DC residency again?

The evidence they presented to the school, in the year 2016. Evidence that you, despite digging through this woman's exes trash, are not privy to see. Because it is none of your damn business.

Did you show her proof of address in 2016? Nope. Are DC residents not allowed to work in Maryland? Are children not allowed to have parents with different residences?

And while we're wondering, I'm touched that living in Virginia, a state with almost no tax burden for its residents, you still care so deeply about my taxes. Not enough, mind you, to move into the district where you work... or pay your own traffic tickets, but still.

Fraudsters do wax indignant, don't they. Defensive, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Declaring.

You want to do a story on residency fraud? Grow a set of balls and do a real story. The daily caller's is not.

1. Driving a car with Maryland plates.
2. Living in a house in Maryland.
3. Working in Maryland.
4. Declaring a Maryland address in court papers 1999-2013.

What was the evidence of DC residency again?

The evidence they presented to the school, in the year 2016. Evidence that you, despite digging through this woman's exes trash, are not privy to see. Because it is none of your damn business.

Did you show her proof of address in 2016? Nope. Are DC residents not allowed to work in Maryland? Are children not allowed to have parents with different residences?

And while we're wondering, I'm touched that living in Virginia, a state with almost no tax burden for its residents, you still care so deeply about my taxes. Not enough, mind you, to move into the district where you work... or pay your own traffic tickets, but still.

Fraudsters do wax indignant, don't they. Defensive, too.

NP here: this is exactly the kind of residency fraud apologizing that I was talking about on the previous page of this thread. They are quick and harsh to call those who question OSSE's effectiveness "nosey," "unhinged," and any other manner of put downs. It really does make me wonder if this is MUCH more widespread than we can imagine.

Look, the mother profiled in yesterday's article is a residency cheater. Straight up. The preponderance of evidence supports the claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So yeah, you should be alarmed if your child is regularly being shuttled from school to a house in Maryland. People are pissed off at the blatant fraud that is commonplace at some schools and that has gotten the attention of this click-bait website. Perhaps you should express your frustration to your councilmember, who might be able to get some answers out of OSSE, because "all that's required" is not enough to keep people from cheating the system.

Again: raise of hands/posts of DCUM posters shut out of the schools mentioned in the article: Ludlow Taylor, Eagle Academy, KIPP, JO Wilson?

Hello? Anyone?

We were shut out of LT and JO Wilson, and, judging by our waitlist numbers, so were a lot of other families. I don't agree with stalking kids, but it seems clear to me that OSSE should be:
1) auditing all schools to make sure they are actually requiring parents to prove residency; and
2) thinking about how the "proof of residency" requirements could be revised to make it harder to fake residency without burdening DC residents without cars or jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Declaring.

You want to do a story on residency fraud? Grow a set of balls and do a real story. The daily caller's is not.

1. Driving a car with Maryland plates.
2. Living in a house in Maryland.
3. Working in Maryland.
4. Declaring a Maryland address in court papers 1999-2013.

What was the evidence of DC residency again?

The evidence they presented to the school, in the year 2016. Evidence that you, despite digging through this woman's exes trash, are not privy to see. Because it is none of your damn business.

Did you show her proof of address in 2016? Nope. Are DC residents not allowed to work in Maryland? Are children not allowed to have parents with different residences?

And while we're wondering, I'm touched that living in Virginia, a state with almost no tax burden for its residents, you still care so deeply about my taxes. Not enough, mind you, to move into the district where you work... or pay your own traffic tickets, but still.

Fraudsters do wax indignant, don't they. Defensive, too.

NP here: this is exactly the kind of residency fraud apologizing that I was talking about on the previous page of this thread. They are quick and harsh to call those who question OSSE's effectiveness "nosey," "unhinged," and any other manner of put downs. It really does make me wonder if this is MUCH more widespread than we can imagine.

Look, the mother profiled in yesterday's article is a residency cheater. Straight up. The preponderance of evidence supports the claim.

That is not residency fraud "apologizing." Unlike these reporters, I have children, live in DC, and pay taxes there. As for this woman, I have no idea. But what I have seen from their (your) evidence proves nothing. Nada. The reporters cobbled together a piecemeal story based on demonizing one specific family. They loaded it up with details, like a bankruptcy and her driving an Acura, which, much like Mr rosniak's hypertension and family history of cancer, have nothing to do with this case, or any other case of residence fraud.

An interesting story based not on libel, but on facts, would be how both Mr rosniak and the driver of this Maryland plated car don't think they should pay DC traffic tickets. Daily caller reporter and suspected residency cheater: both united in their civic disregard for traffic regulations.