School residency cheaters investigated

[Anonymous]

Right? De man dead and gone and they still keep bringing him back to life to drag him.

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Anonymous wrote:I've become convinced that too many people from Ward 9 are employed in DC. They're quite literally part of the problem: they either personally participate in it or have family members who do. When they're called upon from their positions of authority to act, they chose to be corrupt instead.

DC operates more like Chad or Chicago than it does like Berkely or Park City. You can't be a great place with such a culture of low expectations.

I've become convinced that too many political science majors who think they have some understanding of human nature, despite their bpd, xenophobia,and deep-seated emotional problems are employed by too many "policy" type non profits in DC. It gives them an insufferable degree of entitlement, and a smug sense of their own self-worth, the kind of self worth forged from team soccer, football, and a lot of corporate seminars. And maybe yoga. In most other parts of this country, they'd either be "investment" advisors, real estate sales people, or Primerica rrepresentatives; but they live here, and so they come here, and so they whine--on and on, like sad little sheep. Waahhhh. Waahhhh. Ward nine! See the joke I made? Waaaahh. Waaaahh..

Pathetic.

Shorter PP: low expectations are the key to happiness. Welcome to DC and Waahh Wahh Wahhrd 9.

Welcome to Barryville, the DC version of Brazzaville.

Barry has been gone for quite a while now. You are going to have to find some other racist effigy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Latest installment: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/15/fraud-alert-dc-schools-have-more-students-than-school-aged-kids-living-in-the-district/
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District of Columbia public and charter elementary schools have more students attending classes than the federal city’s entire population of such school-aged kids, indicating a fraud rate of at least 11 percent.

Mathematically, that is the minimum portion of elementary schoolers who must be non-D.C. residents, but whose parents are freeloading off taxpayers to take advantage of the District of Columbia Public Schools’ extended hours, after-school care and proximity to employers.

The District’s public and taxpayer-funded charter schools had 36,785 students in kindergarten through 5th grade in 2014 — slightly more than the city’s population aged five to 10, which was estimated by the U.S. Census Bureau at 36,770.

The gap of 15 students could be explained by the Census estimate’s margin of error or through special cases — except for the fact not every child in D.C. attends its public schools is considered. Children from wealthy D.C. families often go to private schools, for example.

The Census Bureau estimated that 4,139 children aged five to nine were in private schools in 2014 — meaning that in those six grades alone, the public school system had 4,154 more students enrolled than the total population of those that age.

The discrepancy is understated by those figures because they don’t include the District’s home-schooled students, or 10-year-olds in private school, since the Census Bureau’s private school estimate doesn’t break out that age group.

The figures conjure the old jokes about voter fraud in which a candidate receives more than 100 percent of the vote.

They indicate that more than 11 percent of the K-5 population likely is from out of state. The school system spends $30,000 per kid annually, meaning those 4,154 cheaters alone cost $125 million per year. D.C. offers fifteen years of education, so if the fraud rate is similar in other grades, the cost would be a third of a billion dollars per year.

OMG what a joke!! First of all, the Census is well known to under count children. Second of all, the Census has a *margin of error.* Keep on hack hacking away guys.

An 11% margin of error?

the margin of error can be quite high, and then there's the known undercounting. not to mention that the census is every 10 years! hack hack hackity hack

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've become convinced that too many people from Ward 9 are employed in DC. They're quite literally part of the problem: they either personally participate in it or have family members who do. When they're called upon from their positions of authority to act, they chose to be corrupt instead.

DC operates more like Chad or Chicago than it does like Berkely or Park City. You can't be a great place with such a culture of low expectations.

I've become convinced that too many political science majors who think they have some understanding of human nature, despite their bpd, xenophobia,and deep-seated emotional problems are employed by too many "policy" type non profits in DC. It gives them an insufferable degree of entitlement, and a smug sense of their own self-worth, the kind of self worth forged from team soccer, football, and a lot of corporate seminars. And maybe yoga. In most other parts of this country, they'd either be "investment" advisors, real estate sales people, or Primerica rrepresentatives; but they live here, and so they come here, and so they whine--on and on, like sad little sheep. Waahhhh. Waahhhh. Ward nine! See the joke I made? Waaaahh. Waaaahh..

Pathetic.

Shorter PP: low expectations are the key to happiness. Welcome to DC and Waahh Wahh Wahhrd 9.

Welcome to Barryville, the DC version of Brazzaville.

Barry has been gone for quite a while now. You are going to have to find some other racist effigy.

It was amazing that a racist like Barry lasted so long in DC public life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Right? De man dead and gone and they still keep bringing him back to life to drag him.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've become convinced that too many people from Ward 9 are employed in DC. They're quite literally part of the problem: they either personally participate in it or have family members who do. When they're called upon from their positions of authority to act, they chose to be corrupt instead.

DC operates more like Chad or Chicago than it does like Berkely or Park City. You can't be a great place with such a culture of low expectations.

I've become convinced that too many political science majors who think they have some understanding of human nature, despite their bpd, xenophobia,and deep-seated emotional problems are employed by too many "policy" type non profits in DC. It gives them an insufferable degree of entitlement, and a smug sense of their own self-worth, the kind of self worth forged from team soccer, football, and a lot of corporate seminars. And maybe yoga. In most other parts of this country, they'd either be "investment" advisors, real estate sales people, or Primerica rrepresentatives; but they live here, and so they come here, and so they whine--on and on, like sad little sheep. Waahhhh. Waahhhh. Ward nine! See the joke I made? Waaaahh. Waaaahh..

Pathetic.

Shorter PP: low expectations are the key to happiness. Welcome to DC and Waahh Wahh Wahhrd 9.

Welcome to Barryville, the DC version of Brazzaville.

Barry has been gone for quite a while now. You are going to have to find some other racist effigy.

As this investigative series demonstrates, while the ex-Mayor-for-Life is dead and gone, still his corrupt legacy lingers on....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest installment: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/15/fraud-alert-dc-schools-have-more-students-than-school-aged-kids-living-in-the-district/
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District of Columbia public and charter elementary schools have more students attending classes than the federal city’s entire population of such school-aged kids, indicating a fraud rate of at least 11 percent.

Mathematically, that is the minimum portion of elementary schoolers who must be non-D.C. residents, but whose parents are freeloading off taxpayers to take advantage of the District of Columbia Public Schools’ extended hours, after-school care and proximity to employers.

The District’s public and taxpayer-funded charter schools had 36,785 students in kindergarten through 5th grade in 2014 — slightly more than the city’s population aged five to 10, which was estimated by the U.S. Census Bureau at 36,770.

The gap of 15 students could be explained by the Census estimate’s margin of error or through special cases — except for the fact not every child in D.C. attends its public schools is considered. Children from wealthy D.C. families often go to private schools, for example.

The Census Bureau estimated that 4,139 children aged five to nine were in private schools in 2014 — meaning that in those six grades alone, the public school system had 4,154 more students enrolled than the total population of those that age.

The discrepancy is understated by those figures because they don’t include the District’s home-schooled students, or 10-year-olds in private school, since the Census Bureau’s private school estimate doesn’t break out that age group.

The figures conjure the old jokes about voter fraud in which a candidate receives more than 100 percent of the vote.

They indicate that more than 11 percent of the K-5 population likely is from out of state. The school system spends $30,000 per kid annually, meaning those 4,154 cheaters alone cost $125 million per year. D.C. offers fifteen years of education, so if the fraud rate is similar in other grades, the cost would be a third of a billion dollars per year.

OMG what a joke!! First of all, the Census is well known to under count children. Second of all, the Census has a *margin of error.* Keep on hack hacking away guys.

An 11% margin of error?

the margin of error can be quite high, and then there's the known undercounting. not to mention that the census is every 10 years! hack hack hackity hack

Wow. I'm the poster who originally posted the census and ACS numbers WAAAAAAY up thread. I can't believe they are literally reporting straight from this thread, especially knowing I was just throwing around numbers from the interwebs. Hope they checked the math. Somebody post something and see if we can get it reported in the Caller tomorrow!!!

[Anonymous]

I heard that hipsters in hyattsville are using their old dorm addresses to register their cars and let their children go to Lee, which is a DC charter school. Also West.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latest installment: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/15/fraud-alert-dc-schools-have-more-students-than-school-aged-kids-living-in-the-district/
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District of Columbia public and charter elementary schools have more students attending classes than the federal city’s entire population of such school-aged kids, indicating a fraud rate of at least 11 percent.

Mathematically, that is the minimum portion of elementary schoolers who must be non-D.C. residents, but whose parents are freeloading off taxpayers to take advantage of the District of Columbia Public Schools’ extended hours, after-school care and proximity to employers.

The District’s public and taxpayer-funded charter schools had 36,785 students in kindergarten through 5th grade in 2014 — slightly more than the city’s population aged five to 10, which was estimated by the U.S. Census Bureau at 36,770.

The gap of 15 students could be explained by the Census estimate’s margin of error or through special cases — except for the fact not every child in D.C. attends its public schools is considered. Children from wealthy D.C. families often go to private schools, for example.

The Census Bureau estimated that 4,139 children aged five to nine were in private schools in 2014 — meaning that in those six grades alone, the public school system had 4,154 more students enrolled than the total population of those that age.

The discrepancy is understated by those figures because they don’t include the District’s home-schooled students, or 10-year-olds in private school, since the Census Bureau’s private school estimate doesn’t break out that age group.

The figures conjure the old jokes about voter fraud in which a candidate receives more than 100 percent of the vote.

They indicate that more than 11 percent of the K-5 population likely is from out of state. The school system spends $30,000 per kid annually, meaning those 4,154 cheaters alone cost $125 million per year. D.C. offers fifteen years of education, so if the fraud rate is similar in other grades, the cost would be a third of a billion dollars per year.

OMG what a joke!! First of all, the Census is well known to under count children. Second of all, the Census has a *margin of error.* Keep on hack hacking away guys.

An 11% margin of error?

the margin of error can be quite high, and then there's the known undercounting. not to mention that the census is every 10 years! hack hack hackity hack

Wow. I'm the poster who originally posted the census and ACS numbers WAAAAAAY up thread. I can't believe they are literally reporting straight from this thread, especially knowing I was just throwing around numbers from the interwebs. Hope they checked the math. Somebody post something and see if we can get it reported in the Caller tomorrow!!!

You should be proud, influencing publlished media like that!

[Anonymous]

^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.

no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.

no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.

The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've become convinced that too many people from Ward 9 are employed in DC. They're quite literally part of the problem: they either personally participate in it or have family members who do. When they're called upon from their positions of authority to act, they chose to be corrupt instead.

DC operates more like Chad or Chicago than it does like Berkely or Park City. You can't be a great place with such a culture of low expectations.

I've become convinced that too many political science majors who think they have some understanding of human nature, despite their bpd, xenophobia,and deep-seated emotional problems are employed by too many "policy" type non profits in DC. It gives them an insufferable degree of entitlement, and a smug sense of their own self-worth, the kind of self worth forged from team soccer, football, and a lot of corporate seminars. And maybe yoga. In most other parts of this country, they'd either be "investment" advisors, real estate sales people, or Primerica rrepresentatives; but they live here, and so they come here, and so they whine--on and on, like sad little sheep. Waahhhh. Waahhhh. Ward nine! See the joke I made? Waaaahh. Waaaahh..

Pathetic.

Shorter PP: low expectations are the key to happiness. Welcome to DC and Waahh Wahh Wahhrd 9.

Welcome to Barryville, the DC version of Brazzaville.

Barry has been gone for quite a while now. You are going to have to find some other racist effigy.

It was amazing that a racist like Barry lasted so long in DC public life.

Yeah really, did you actually live here before and during the early Barry years? Didn't think so, laughable. Yes things got ugly in the 80s but trust me some folks went to segregated schools in DC and beg to differ with your reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.

no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.

The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?

No, the undercount is still very significant particularly for inner city black kids ie a huge chunk of DC. the daily caller screed is ludicrous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.

no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.

The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?

No, the undercount is still very significant particularly for inner city black kids ie a huge chunk of DC. the daily caller screed is ludicrous.

but anyway don't listen to me - how about if those "reporters" call up a few demographers and census stats jockeys to ask them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.

no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.

The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?

No, the undercount is still very significant particularly for inner city black kids ie a huge chunk of DC. the daily caller screed is ludicrous.

A big chunk that still leaves a big chunk of non-poor blacks. Even if the city were 100% low-income poor blacks, it wouldn't erase all of the 11% discrepancy the article calculated.

Where is your data? Why are you so adamant in insisting there's no problem against the observation of many (even aside from the scary Daily Caller)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.

no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.

The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?

No, the undercount is still very significant particularly for inner city black kids ie a huge chunk of DC. the daily caller screed is ludicrous.

A big chunk that still leaves a big chunk of non-poor blacks. Even if the city were 100% low-income poor blacks, it wouldn't erase all of the 11% discrepancy the article calculated.

Where is your data? Why are you so adamant in insisting there's no problem against the observation of many (even aside from the scary Daily Caller)?

Because the cheaters and fraudsters have every incentive to attack, obstruct and deflect, in the hope that the spotlight moves elsewhere.