School residency cheaters investigated

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.


no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.


The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?


No, the undercount is still very significant particularly for inner city black kids ie a huge chunk of DC. the daily caller screed is ludicrous.


A big chunk that still leaves a big chunk of non-poor blacks. Even if the city were 100% low-income poor blacks, it wouldn't erase all of the 11% discrepancy the article calculated.

Where is your data? Why are you so adamant in insisting there's no problem against the observation of many (even aside from the scary Daily Caller)?


Because the cheaters and fraudsters have every incentive to attack, obstruct and deflect, in the hope that the spotlight moves elsewhere.


Psycho loser, if I was a cheater. I would not be posting at all. You have some kind of martyr complex, you think you're doing something noble and just, speaking of those pg people, and their cheating ways. You are stupid. You are messed up. You are sad. And the only reason I continue to post in this thread is to repeatedly point it out to you. Being you., I'm sure that makes you just feel more noble. But show this to your mother, and she will remember how you loved to pick wings off flies and burn ants with your magnifying glass. Show this to your therapist, and he'll increase your Seroquel.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.


no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.


The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?


No, the undercount is still very significant particularly for inner city black kids ie a huge chunk of DC. the daily caller screed is ludicrous.


A big chunk that still leaves a big chunk of non-poor blacks. Even if the city were 100% low-income poor blacks, it wouldn't erase all of the 11% discrepancy the article calculated.

Where is your data? Why are you so adamant in insisting there's no problem against the observation of many (even aside from the scary Daily Caller)?


it's just so transparently hackish to literally steal your article from DCUM and do literally no background research and declare that 11% of DCPS students are from MD based on the census projections. I am certain there is some fraud but daily caller is risible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.


no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.


The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?


No, the undercount is still very significant particularly for inner city black kids ie a huge chunk of DC. the daily caller screed is ludicrous.


A big chunk that still leaves a big chunk of non-poor blacks. Even if the city were 100% low-income poor blacks, it wouldn't erase all of the 11% discrepancy the article calculated.

Where is your data? Why are you so adamant in insisting there's no problem against the observation of many (even aside from the scary Daily Caller)?


it's just so transparently hackish to literally steal your article from DCUM and do literally no background research and declare that 11% of DCPS students are from MD based on the census projections. I am certain there is some fraud but daily caller is risible.


I'm the census poster & I 10,000% agree they should have called a demographer or statistician before quoting an anonymous board. Oh well.
Anonymous
I just noticed that the daily caller now says they are a news "foundation." They also, apparently, don't mind if anyone quotes them, anywhere. So in that spirit:

"I just love black people," said Daily Caller news reporter Katie Watson, during a recent visit to the hip new Cold Stone Creamery location in downtown Silver Spring. "They have such a vibrant culture! Have you been to the Busboys and Poets in the new Hyattsville Arts District? I mean, the book selection is a little... You know. *Biased.* But all lives matter, don't they? And I think it's wonderful we can sell Langston Hughes t-shirts here in America, even if he was probably a communist."

[Redacted response from confused cashier.]

"Oh. Are you sure? I mean, he was a waiter, right?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ It certainly is an interesting approach to consider. Maybe the numbers are not exact, but the basic analysis strongly suggests a problem.


no, the numbers show nothing of the sort. the census undercounts poor black kids by almost 9%. the annual census projections are esimates with a margin of error. dcps may under or over count its own numbers. the article id 100% horse shit and shame on anyone who thinks it is has an iota of credibility.


The undercounts are no longer that high, and they are much worse for kids under 4. see table 4 with undercounts of kids by race since 1940: https://www.census.gov/srd/papers/pdf/ssm2014-03.pdf Agree on margin of error but not as much on undercount.

Also, DCPS/charters probably have an *over*count incentive since that is how they are paid, right, per pupil?


That census was 6 years ago. Those 4 year olds are middle schoolers now.
Anonymous
I haven't read the daily caller in depth, but from the little I have read, its entire point seems to be a self-appointed watchdog "foundation" engaged in pointing our DC corruption, and how that is a metaphor for liberals being bad. Am I missing something?

I have actually been disgusted by some of the things I've seen DC waste money on--dcps renovation budgets are a joke of inefficiency. The metro is a catastrophe. Development is poorly planned and all reliant on these massive "projects" all meant to bring more bland retail chains into new buildings--which is supposed to magically make nice places to live... (Although the last is a million times worse in Virginia and MD).

But the daily caller is not a credible watchdog. As the lack of actual reporting in its school fraud stories shows all too well, its agenda is almost entirely concerned with calling out of country and mayor Barry "cronyims."--even beyond any logic or sense. And taken as such, that can only be code for. "make DC whiter, please, so we can feel safe leaving the panera bread in Arlington, to come to the panera bread on H street."
Anonymous
So for those that hate the Daily Caller stories, is your argument that:

- there are not students that live MD (along with both parents) who go to DCPS schools
- there are only a handful so the story was over blown
- it does not matter as long as children are being educated
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the daily caller in depth, but from the little I have read, its entire point seems to be a self-appointed watchdog "foundation" engaged in pointing our DC corruption, and how that is a metaphor for liberals being bad. Am I missing something?

I have actually been disgusted by some of the things I've seen DC waste money on--dcps renovation budgets are a joke of inefficiency. The metro is a catastrophe. Development is poorly planned and all reliant on these massive "projects" all meant to bring more bland retail chains into new buildings--which is supposed to magically make nice places to live... (Although the last is a million times worse in Virginia and MD).

But the daily caller is not a credible watchdog. As the lack of actual reporting in its school fraud stories shows all too well, its agenda is almost entirely concerned with calling out of country and mayor Barry "cronyims."--even beyond any logic or sense. And taken as such, that can only be code for. "make DC whiter, please, so we can feel safe leaving the panera bread in Arlington, to come to the panera bread on H street."


It's troubling that you seem to equate fraud and cronyism with people of color.
Anonymous
Hardly. As I've pointed out. Fraud and cronyism are why we have such fine publications like the daily caller.

I find it more troubling that your paper spends so much energy and effort trolling mom boards. I mean, even with unpaid interns, it has to add up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So for those that hate the Daily Caller stories, is your argument that:

- there are not students that live MD (along with both parents) who go to DCPS schools
- there are only a handful so the story was over blown
- it does not matter as long as children are being educated


No. I realize that after Dartmouth and that rejection from law school this daily caller gig was the only thing your dad could find for you... But my entire argument is:

1.) The daily caller did not publish credible stories with real facts about residency fraud.
2.) Anyone slithering around this site still repeating blindingly obvious points about residency fraud is not on a crusade to stop Maryland residents from benefitting from dc perks (a concept I expect most Maryland residents find laughable as it is, but that's another article.). They are instead just trying to further their, "dc sucks because liberals suck. And also the black people." Message.
3.) Speaking of that, are you sad you didn't get to go to Cleveland this week with the other indigo children?
Anonymous
And if you keep posting your drivel here, I will do a more thorough investigation of your fine "foundation's" finances, and your founder's personal life. Because I can.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So for those that hate the Daily Caller stories, is your argument that:

- there are not students that live MD (along with both parents) who go to DCPS schools
- there are only a handful so the story was over blown
- it does not matter as long as children are being educated


No. I realize that after Dartmouth and that rejection from law school this daily caller gig was the only thing your dad could find for you... But my entire argument is:

1.) The daily caller did not publish credible stories with real facts about residency fraud.
2.) Anyone slithering around this site still repeating blindingly obvious points about residency fraud is not on a crusade to stop Maryland residents from benefitting from dc perks (a concept I expect most Maryland residents find laughable as it is, but that's another article.). They are instead just trying to further their, "dc sucks because liberals suck. And also the black people." Message.
3.) Speaking of that, are you sad you didn't get to go to Cleveland this week with the other indigo children?


Okay folks, calm down. The Daily Caller is c***p but there is rampant cheating at DCPS and Charters. There you have it!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So for those that hate the Daily Caller stories, is your argument that:

- there are not students that live MD (along with both parents) who go to DCPS schools
- there are only a handful so the story was over blown
- it does not matter as long as children are being educated


No. I realize that after Dartmouth and that rejection from law school this daily caller gig was the only thing your dad could find for you... But my entire argument is:

1.) The daily caller did not publish credible stories with real facts about residency fraud.
2.) Anyone slithering around this site still repeating blindingly obvious points about residency fraud is not on a crusade to stop Maryland residents from benefitting from dc perks (a concept I expect most Maryland residents find laughable as it is, but that's another article.). They are instead just trying to further their, "dc sucks because liberals suck. And also the black people." Message.
3.) Speaking of that, are you sad you didn't get to go to Cleveland this week with the other indigo children?


Sorry, new poster on this topic and I didn't include question marks. I meant that as a serious question (as least for DCUM) multiple choice question, not a troll. Although I understand how it came off that way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And if you keep posting your drivel here, I will do a more thorough investigation of your fine "foundation's" finances, and your founder's personal life. Because I can.


Ooh! So scary!

It's a nice try to act like there's just one or two people riles u sbout ridency fraud. Lots more posters here than one, and plenty are liberal. I, at least, just don't care for a system that tolerates cheating, especially at the expense of my tax dollars.
Anonymous
^^ make that "riled up about residency fraud"
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