Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The way I read the story was that the day of the shooting was the first day that the parent wasn’t scheduled to attend with the child — as if it was a planned step down of that accommodation. If that’s the case, it’s crazy to me that an aide wasn’t placed in the classroom for at least a transitional period. You don’t remove a support like that all of a sudden with no scaffolding.

I’m also wondering about the trigger lock on the gun. I don’t know how those work but it sounded like he needed to steal his mom’s key to unlock it? Is it a physical key?

I also wonder if the child was adopted from an orphanage or severely abusive home — its just so unusual to have a child this disturbed at this young an age that I suspect there is some story of deep trauma there, or a physical injury to the brain. I initially assumed the home itself was abusive but if the parents were invested enough to be attending school daily, that seems less likely.

The school made so many bad decisions here.

No look at this documentary it's quite common

https://youtu.be/n-B_kmAebbQ

[Anonymous]

Why did the teachers and staff keep going back to the AP instead of the principal when the AP was not responding in the way they thought she should?

Why is the principal so disconnected from the AP that she didn't hear about this child and the concerns being raised by staff repeatedly???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did the teachers and staff keep going back to the AP instead of the principal when the AP was not responding in the way they thought she should?

Why is the principal so disconnected from the AP that she didn't hear about this child and the concerns being raised by staff repeatedly???

In many schools, if you report to an AP but go over their head to the Principal, you can get disciplined for subverting the chain of command.

Reason #4847337228 why teachers are leaving.

[Anonymous]

All the stories that are coming out about this kid are truly astonishing. How was this child allowed to come to school everyday with all these problems. The sad part is that the school district will have to settle this case because suing the parents will do nothing. This child was far too dangerous to be in a general classroom.
Children that are this troubled need to be institutionalized this idea that we can take troubled kids and put them in a general classroom with an IEP is at best naïve and at worst dangerous. Teachers should be refusing to teach in this school district unless drastic measures are taken. What a mess!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the stories that are coming out about this kid are truly astonishing. How was this child allowed to come to school everyday with all these problems. The sad part is that the school district will have to settle this case because suing the parents will do nothing. This child was far too dangerous to be in a general classroom.
Children that are this troubled need to be institutionalized this idea that we can take troubled kids and put them in a general classroom with an IEP is at best naïve and at worst dangerous. Teachers should be refusing to teach in this school district unless drastic measures are taken. What a mess!

The fact that you think this child is unique shows how out of touch you are with the current reality teachers face.

My sister quit teaching last year. Why? Because she was stabbed by a student with a pencil. For the THIRD time. The admins, the APs and the Principal, all told her that if she pursued charges on her own, it would reflect negatively on her file.

Other than law enforcement, there are no other careers where an employee would have to accept being physically assaulted as a normal reality other than teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did the teachers and staff keep going back to the AP instead of the principal when the AP was not responding in the way they thought she should?

Why is the principal so disconnected from the AP that she didn't hear about this child and the concerns being raised by staff repeatedly???

In most schools where I’ve worked the AP is in charge of disciplinary issues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did the teachers and staff keep going back to the AP instead of the principal when the AP was not responding in the way they thought she should?

Why is the principal so disconnected from the AP that she didn't hear about this child and the concerns being raised by staff repeatedly???

In most schools where I’ve worked the AP is in charge of disciplinary issues

+1 Same for me, but principals in the schools where I've worked ALSO knew when a child demonstrated these types of severe behaviors. In fact, they took an active role in make sure they were evaluated and had proper services and placement.

[Anonymous]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64540531

The BBC picked up the story that the 6 year old had strangled his K teacher and he had changed schools after.

[Anonymous]

Ask your friends who are teachers. Ask them for the first name of the kid or kids most likely to do this in their school. Sadly, most of us would have a short list and all the teachers at our school would agree with who is on it. On mine is a 1st grader who regularly smashes and throws things in anger and regularly curses people out and tells them he wants them to die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ask your friends who are teachers. Ask them for the first name of the kid or kids most likely to do this in their school. Sadly, most of us would have a short list and all the teachers at our school would agree with who is on it. On mine is a 1st grader who regularly smashes and throws things in anger and regularly curses people out and tells them he wants them to die.

+1 Sadly, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ask your friends who are teachers. Ask them for the first name of the kid or kids most likely to do this in their school. Sadly, most of us would have a short list and all the teachers at our school would agree with who is on it. On mine is a 1st grader who regularly smashes and throws things in anger and regularly curses people out and tells them he wants them to die.

+1 Sadly, yes.

I used to teach elementary special ed. There was one boy in particular that had psychopathic tendencies. It was heartbreaking; he was dead in the eyes and violent toward everything and everyone. I was relieved whenever he was absent or suspended.

Now he is in prison. We all failed him. I don’t know the answer and it’s too depressing and I no longer teach

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ask your friends who are teachers. Ask them for the first name of the kid or kids most likely to do this in their school. Sadly, most of us would have a short list and all the teachers at our school would agree with who is on it. On mine is a 1st grader who regularly smashes and throws things in anger and regularly curses people out and tells them he wants them to die.

+1 Sadly, yes.

I used to teach elementary special ed. There was one boy in particular that had psychopathic tendencies. It was heartbreaking; he was dead in the eyes and violent toward everything and everyone. I was relieved whenever he was absent or suspended.

Now he is in prison. We all failed him. I don’t know the answer and it’s too depressing and I no longer teach

No one failed him. As much as we don't want to admit it, some people are born bad eggs. It's just in their wiring and cannot be changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did the teachers and staff keep going back to the AP instead of the principal when the AP was not responding in the way they thought she should?

Why is the principal so disconnected from the AP that she didn't hear about this child and the concerns being raised by staff repeatedly???

In many schools, if you report to an AP but go over their head to the Principal, you can get disciplined for subverting the chain of command.

Reason #4847337228 why teachers are leaving.

WOW! I honestly did not know this. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ask your friends who are teachers. Ask them for the first name of the kid or kids most likely to do this in their school. Sadly, most of us would have a short list and all the teachers at our school would agree with who is on it. On mine is a 1st grader who regularly smashes and throws things in anger and regularly curses people out and tells them he wants them to die.

+1 Sadly, yes.

I used to teach elementary special ed. There was one boy in particular that had psychopathic tendencies. It was heartbreaking; he was dead in the eyes and violent toward everything and everyone. I was relieved whenever he was absent or suspended.

Now he is in prison. We all failed him. I don’t know the answer and it’s too depressing and I no longer teach

No one failed him. As much as we don't want to admit it, some people are born bad eggs. It's just in their wiring and cannot be changed.

I agree. As much as I believe most kids are redeemable and the product of their circumstances, there are some instances that are simply beyond anyone's control.

[Anonymous]

Here we go: 2 students of the school have filed letters of intent to sue the school district. One kid was in the classroom, and one it isn't clear whether he was in the classroom at the time or just saw the gun during lunch.

The gun was not in his pants pocket. It was in the pocket of his hoodie.

https://www.wavy.com/news/families-of-2-richneck-students-plan-lawsuits-against-newport-news-public-schools/