NY mom murdered

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Bonola, who hails from Mexico and had moved to the U.S. more than 20 years ago, was arrested on Thursday in the early hours of the morning. Why did he need a Spanish interpreter in court then? He had been in the US for 20 years.

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Apparently, he had a command of the English language: Then, as he was put in a police car on Thursday in front of journalists asking why he killed her, he screamed: 'F**k you motherf****r!'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Bonola, who hails from Mexico and had moved to the U.S. more than 20 years ago, was arrested on Thursday in the early hours of the morning. Why did he need a Spanish interpreter in court then? He had been in the US for 20 years.

I don't find that that unusual. He probably spoke sufficient English to get by in day to day life, but understanding the motions of a court and being able to express yourself there where every word counts is a different beast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Bonola, who hails from Mexico and had moved to the U.S. more than 20 years ago, was arrested on Thursday in the early hours of the morning. Why did he need a Spanish interpreter in court then? He had been in the US for 20 years.

Likely unfamiliar with legal terms. Better safe than mistrial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Bonola, who hails from Mexico and had moved to the U.S. more than 20 years ago, was arrested on Thursday in the early hours of the morning. Why did he need a Spanish interpreter in court then? He had been in the US for 20 years.

Likely unfamiliar with legal terms. Better safe than mistrial.

Makes sense. Cover all bases to get this psycho put away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s double the expense of travel and with a bored 13 year old who might have school or sports commitments at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s not weird. My husband and my daughter (a junior) are going to be taking 3 college trips (flying) this summer. I am not going because I have to stay home with our younger child who will also have a lot going on. I also work full time and would rather use that time for family vacation. DH owns his own business and has a much more flexible schedule than I do. We are happily married.

Take this as you will, my friend's husband cheated and the affair partner would arrange things to get the husband away for the weekend with her teen sons. She actually scheduled a bunch of college trips for them for the purpose of getting her freak on. AND, she was a stay-at-home mom so it's not like she had a job to use as an excuse. She also had the husband do most of the boys' activities/sports, etc.

Bingo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s double the expense of travel and with a bored 13 year old who might have school or sports commitments at home.

They were going to fly out to meet them, so not a $ or her job issue. Maybe younger one had school Friday. She got her night off to try to find new dates (3 guys the prior night and was trying to line something up). She had gotten back with the handyman this month and recently broke up AGAIN (off and on 2 years). But, as another pp suggested, people in affairs are constantly monitoring the family's/kid's/spouse's schedules for opportunity. Oh--my lover is going to be in NYC for work---he can say it's too late Friday to come home and I can take the train up there and say I'm visiting my old roommate. Oh--he can fake a mid-day work trip--well--I can come up with some reason I need to stay in town. Oh--college trips are coming up...I will say its boy bonding time or I have to stay home with the dog, teach my exercise class---so I can have hours alone.

That's how people consumed in cheating operate. Always looking for opportunity to sneak off. Covid lockdown really made it hard for some of them...hence her going for a long walk and ending up not coming home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s double the expense of travel and with a bored 13 year old who might have school or sports commitments at home.

They were going to fly out to meet them, so not a $ or her job issue. Maybe younger one had school Friday. She got her night off to try to find new dates (3 guys the prior night and was trying to line something up). She had gotten back with the handyman this month and recently broke up AGAIN (off and on 2 years). But, as another pp suggested, people in affairs are constantly monitoring the family's/kid's/spouse's schedules for opportunity. Oh--my lover is going to be in NYC for work---he can say it's too late Friday to come home and I can take the train up there and say I'm visiting my old roommate. Oh--he can fake a mid-day work trip--well--I can come up with some reason I need to stay in town. Oh--college trips are coming up...I will say its boy bonding time or I have to stay home with the dog, teach my exercise class---so I can have hours alone.

That's how people consumed in cheating operate. Always looking for opportunity to sneak off. Covid lockdown really made it hard for some of them...hence her going for a long walk and ending up not coming home.

And the point is to gaslight and not making anything seem out of the ordinary. IF the marriage seems happy and family running well, the spouse isn't even thinking of questioning any of those things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s not weird. My husband and my daughter (a junior) are going to be taking 3 college trips (flying) this summer. I am not going because I have to stay home with our younger child who will also have a lot going on. I also work full time and would rather use that time for family vacation. DH owns his own business and has a much more flexible schedule than I do. We are happily married.

Take this as you will, my friend's husband cheated and the affair partner would arrange things to get the husband away for the weekend with her teen sons. She actually scheduled a bunch of college trips for them for the purpose of getting her freak on. AND, she was a stay-at-home mom so it's not like she had a job to use as an excuse. She also had the husband do most of the boys' activities/sports, etc.

Bingo!

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No, I don't think that's odd at all. I know tons of families where only one parent travels with the kids. Happens all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s double the expense of travel and with a bored 13 year old who might have school or sports commitments at home.

They were going to fly out to meet them, so not a $ or her job issue. Maybe younger one had school Friday. She got her night off to try to find new dates (3 guys the prior night and was trying to line something up). She had gotten back with the handyman this month and recently broke up AGAIN (off and on 2 years). But, as another pp suggested, people in affairs are constantly monitoring the family's/kid's/spouse's schedules for opportunity. Oh--my lover is going to be in NYC for work---he can say it's too late Friday to come home and I can take the train up there and say I'm visiting my old roommate. Oh--he can fake a mid-day work trip--well--I can come up with some reason I need to stay in town. Oh--college trips are coming up...I will say its boy bonding time or I have to stay home with the dog, teach my exercise class---so I can have hours alone.

That's how people consumed in cheating operate. Always looking for opportunity to sneak off. Covid lockdown really made it hard for some of them...hence her going for a long walk and ending up not coming home.

And the point is to gaslight and not making anything seem out of the ordinary. IF the marriage seems happy and family running well, the spouse isn't even thinking of questioning any of those things.

LOOK. The guy probably discovered one of her infidelities (after the night she didn't come home). She probably gaslit the hell out of it. If she admitted anything--it was a one time thing, got drunk, etc. They might have worked through it.

People like that, newly in recovering, will make sure the spouse isn't left alone. The 13-year old precisely was home so husband would feel comfortable leaving her when they went out of town. I mean "who cheats when their 13-year old is with them for the weekend"? The tickets to the show were used as a logical REASON to get herself out of the house. Only she didn't rush home to the 13-year old. She was hanging out at the bar alone until almost 1am, waiting for one of the guys she had contacted online the night before. He pulled a no show, very common when married cheaters get spooked. Jealous handyman shows up at the house, she lets him inside...at 1am with HER KID sleeping upstairs.

Take all of that in. Good people can't imagine or believe any of this because it is not something they would ever do themselves. They trust and believe. Spouses who provide unconditional trust are easy for them to fool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

The bolded is true and so disturbing.

+1. Horrifying to think of putting your kid at risk like that because of your own selfishness.

If it wasn't so gross, it would almost be impressive how far some of you have managed to twist yourselves into pretzels to victim blame here.

Oh, bullshit. What happened to this woman is absolutely horrible, beyond horrible. No one is saying she deserved this. But the horrible fate she suffered doesn't absolve her of the fact that she made terrible choices and put her family at risk. Lucky you if you get to live a life of zero responsibility for your own actions, but it's hardly victim shaming to point out the obvious here--that she was reckless by having a sexual relationship with this guy. Unfortunately, it played a role in her death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

[Anonymous]

Orsolya Gaal murder suspect David Bonola is in the US illegally, law enforcement sources say

David Bonola, the handyman arrested in the grisly murder of Queens mother Orsolya Gaal, had been living in the United States in violation of immigration law when he was arrested, law enforcement sources confirmed to Fox News Digital on Friday.

Bonola moved to the United States from Mexico 21 years ago, police officials said Thursday. They would not comment regarding the 44-year-old's immigration status at the time. But two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the matter told Fox News Digital that Bonola was in the country in violation of immigration law. Details of whether he entered the U.S. legally were not immediately available.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/orsolya-gaal-murder-suspect-david-bonola-united-states-immigration

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.