Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been googling, but I can’t find a solid answer. Is the US still accepting flights from China at this time?


Yes, flights from China are still coming into the US, to the 11 airports allowed. Dulles is one of them.

Flights are from other parts of China not directly from Wuhan, though that hardly matters. Flights from other Asian countries and European and Middle Eastern coming in normally as well.

I know someone that flew into JFK, stayed in a hotel then took the Amtrak here before voluntary self quarantine with their family. This was what they had to do because they live here. It would have been out if their budget to hole up in a hotel in NYC for 2 weeks out of pocket.
So it’s pretty safe to say this is not uncommon.

Stopping the spread here is impossible. The CDC guidelines are, as usual, more focused on economics rather than safety. It’s been this way for the past 10-15 years.


Do you not know how huge China is? The areas with outbreaks are under quarantine not the entire country because that would be absurd.

Now if people from the quarantined areas are able to sneak off to other areas with difficulty but still possible. There’s no fool proof way to stop them from getting on a plane.

Also, those that are being let into the US are US citizens or nationals. Not foreign nationals. China cannot close the border to US citizens/nationals traveling home. What’s stupid is America letting the travel of US citizens to and from there continue.

So how exactly China is trying to contain it ? By keeping open borders and letting people travel?
Anonymous
Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been googling, but I can’t find a solid answer. Is the US still accepting flights from China at this time?


Yes, flights from China are still coming into the US, to the 11 airports allowed. Dulles is one of them.

Flights are from other parts of China not directly from Wuhan, though that hardly matters. Flights from other Asian countries and European and Middle Eastern coming in normally as well.

I know someone that flew into JFK, stayed in a hotel then took the Amtrak here before voluntary self quarantine with their family. This was what they had to do because they live here. It would have been out if their budget to hole up in a hotel in NYC for 2 weeks out of pocket.
So it’s pretty safe to say this is not uncommon.

Stopping the spread here is impossible. The CDC guidelines are, as usual, more focused on economics rather than safety. It’s been this way for the past 10-15 years.


So how exactly China is trying to contain it ? By keeping open borders and letting people travel?



Reformatting:
Do you not know how huge China is? The areas with outbreaks are under quarantine not the entire country because that would be absurd.

Now if people from the quarantined areas are able to sneak off to other areas with difficulty but still possible. There’s no fool proof way to stop them from getting on a plane.

Also, those that are being let into the US are US citizens or nationals. Not foreign nationals. China cannot close the border to US citizens/nationals traveling home. What’s stupid is America letting the travel of US citizens to and from there continue.
Anonymous
Iran registers a fatality rate of over 20%.

If you believe their cases numbers. 29 cases, 6 dead. More likely there are hundreds more cases but people aren't going to a doctor or a hospital until they are very sick.

Kuwait is organizing to evacuate 700 of its citizens from northern Iraq.

UAE, which had 11 cases all traced to China contact, now has 13 with the addition of a tourist couple from Iran.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-iran-idUKKCN20G075
Anonymous
Israel is hardcore. After 9 South Korean tourists tested positive for the virus after returning from a trip to Israel, Israel is now not allowing people from South Korea or Japan from coming into the country.

A Korean Air flight from South Korea landed at Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion airport Saturday evening. Only 12 Israelis were allowed off the plane and were immediately taken to their homes, the ministry said. Approximately 200 foreign nationals were not allowed off the plane. Instead, the plane was refueled and sent back to its origin.



https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-22-20-intl-hnk/index.html
Anonymous
1000 Korean tourists in Israel have been ordered to not leave their hotel rooms.

https://mobile.twitter.com/N12News/status/1231254498435387392?p=p

This comes after 9 Koreans who were on a 77 person church tour of holy places in Israel tested positive for COVID-19.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/health-ministry-korean-nationals-who-visited-israel-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-1.8564475
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.



We live paycheck to paycheck and just had a huge car expense. We only have enough money to buy groceries a week in advance. What should we do? I’m kinda nervous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.



I doubt there would be measures like that in the US unless the cases were a massively larger. We’d just keep hearing “but the flu, the flu, the flu”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.



We live paycheck to paycheck and just had a huge car expense. We only have enough money to buy groceries a week in advance. What should we do? I’m kinda nervous.


Don't panic. I would take reasonable measures like hand washing and social distancing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.



We live paycheck to paycheck and just had a huge car expense. We only have enough money to buy groceries a week in advance. What should we do? I’m kinda nervous.



Things like a large bag of rice, dried beans, bag of oatmeal can be a good start and last. Each week toss one or two extra items in to keep on hand like frozen vegetables or fruit, few cans of soup, dried pasta etc.
Anonymous
Among Korea's new cases today are around 100 patients in an enclosed psychiatric unit of a hospital in Daegu.

Two of the mental health cases have died, the only two fatalities in Korea.

Authorities reported today 102 patients and 9 medical staff at the hospital had tested positive.

Earlier there had been funeral services at the hospital for the brother of the leader of the Shinchonji church, whose members form around half of all the Korean cases, which now number 433, and a link is suspected.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/coronavirus-cases-south-korea-433-overnight/story?id=69142144

https://outline.com/V2RV2F

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please put this thread on local politics, not just in health! All numbers today point to an obvious pandemic. It's time share ideas better!


Are you familiar with the National Pandemic Plan? People have been preparing for this for quite some time. Of course, they were preparing for pandemic flu, not coronavirus, but the principles are the same.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/planning-preparedness/national-strategy-planning.html



Also more recently in 2017 the CDC put out guidance on Pandemic Community Mitigation Guidance. They aren't just brainstorming ideas right now -- they have thought this through.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/rr/rr6601a1.htm?s_cid=rr6601a1_w
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Something everyone can do is to stock up on enough food, prescriptions, household supplies, etc to be able to hunker down in your home for a few weeks.

Just try to imagine what the reaction would be if there were a cluster of cases in the DMV like there was in that S. Korean city. What would happen? Schools closed? Government offices close? Metro close?

I honestly don't know - but I'm going to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.



We live paycheck to paycheck and just had a huge car expense. We only have enough money to buy groceries a week in advance. What should we do? I’m kinda nervous.


Buy bulk cheap food. Rice, pasta, etc. hit up a food pantry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please put this thread on local politics, not just in health! All numbers today point to an obvious pandemic. It's time share ideas better!


Are you familiar with the National Pandemic Plan? People have been preparing for this for quite some time. Of course, they were preparing for pandemic flu, not coronavirus, but the principles are the same.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/planning-preparedness/national-strategy-planning.html



Also more recently in 2017 the CDC put out guidance on Pandemic Community Mitigation Guidance. They aren't just brainstorming ideas right now -- they have thought this through.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/rr/rr6601a1.htm?s_cid=rr6601a1_w


No that’s not the way government work. Who could have predicted this type of thing would happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please put this thread on local politics, not just in health! All numbers today point to an obvious pandemic. It's time share ideas better!


Are you familiar with the National Pandemic Plan? People have been preparing for this for quite some time. Of course, they were preparing for pandemic flu, not coronavirus, but the principles are the same.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/planning-preparedness/national-strategy-planning.html



Also more recently in 2017 the CDC put out guidance on Pandemic Community Mitigation Guidance. They aren't just brainstorming ideas right now -- they have thought this through.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/rr/rr6601a1.htm?s_cid=rr6601a1_w


No that’s not the way government work. Who could have predicted this type of thing would happen.


This is literally the plot from contagion, and CDC was consulted.

Only instead of fancy restaurants it was street market.
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