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I have posted it here in full and do not want to repeat the same stuff so if you want to read full post on this click the link
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/859308.page Can you use the Fever of 38.5 c. /. 101.3 to diagnose coronavirus COVID19? Apparently across reports from all kinds of media and people and medical journals this number comes up over and over again. Isn”t it significant? Seems like different viruses cause body fight them by raising the internal temperature to just specific level for a while. Probably the nature smart design, body knows how much is needed for the targeted response to kill the virus. With this assumption in mind could one fairly accurate assume that if you see those fever numbers in a patient in a fairly consistent manner in a pattern that repeats across patients then you could use it as a simple diagnostic tool? |
Anonymous
It would be highly negligible if that were the case. Doubt it |
Anonymous
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Thoughts from a scientist/journalist
https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1231193492002611200?s=20 The @WHO and @drtedros have emphasized again and again that there is a “window of opportunity” to contain #COVID19. On Friday, Tedros said he believed that window of opportunity was still there, but narrowing. Personally, I think the last days have shown that time is up. Why do I believe that? First in general: there is the way the virus has spread on the #Princessdiamond, in hospitals, in prisons. #SARSCoV2 is very infectious, patients seem to spread it for a long time and cases are hard to detect. It is simply very hard to contain such a virus. Iran: Until three days ago, Iran had not reported a single #COVID19 case. Now we are at 28 cases, incl. 5 deaths. The number of deaths and also the cases of travellers from Iran testing positive suggests this is the tip of an iceberg. We will soon see how large that iceberg is. South Korea: The country has now confirmed 433 #COVID19 cases. Most of these are related to a hospital outbreak and to meetings of a religious group. The sheer number is going to make it hard to contain this. Are we looking at a second China? Hopefully not, but it’s possible. Singapore with its gold-standard surveillance, has at least 7 #COVID19 cases that have not been traced to a known transmission chain. Japan has a similar problem. Italy has local transmission incl. 2 deaths, which suggests those numbers will go up significantly. And these are just the things we know. We can only guess what we don’t know. This MRC analysis suggests that 2/3 of all #COVID19 cases exported from China have been missed https://imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news--wuhan-coronavirus/ From the summary: "we estimated that about two thirds of COVID-19 cases exported from mainland China have remained undetected worldwide, potentially resulting in multiple chains of as yet undetected human-to-human transmission outside mainland China" None of this is a shock. Most researchers always expected it would get to this point. The question is: What happens now? I’m not a public health expert, I’m not an epidemiologist. I’m a journalist. That means I think a lot about communication and that has to enter a new phase too The massive efforts in China have bought us time. But we should be using that time to prepare and that includes preparing the world by communicating what is happening, what is likely to happen and what the response might look like. That is the “window of opportunity” we have now. |
Anonymous
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You guys all just need to chill and watch a movie, like “Contagion,” and calm down.
All joking aside don’t spread false alarms. The CDC is on top (wouldn’t sign memo allowing the passengers tested positive from cruise on plane though the other departments did sign memo). I’d trust CDC. |
Anonymous
| I want to know if a mild case means you need no intervention and will recover at home or if it means you only need a little support in the hospital. If it spreads the latter we are in trouble. My local Er is packed with flu cases. |
Anonymous
This is why there's so much concern for the spread of this virus, that might "only" kill 1% of those it infects. That number is actually a lot. But in addition, maybe 15% of those infected will be in serious or severe condition and will need good medical care to recover. In places that do not have good medical care, the fatalities might be a lot higher than 1% |
Anonymous
Mild means you can care for it at home. Chicken soup, fluids, fever reducers as needed for comfort, and rest. Maybe some prescription cough medicine etc. |
Anonymous
My understanding is that mild means you do not require hospitalization. Symptoms could range from something like a cold you barely notice to a really bad flu that you are nonetheless able to ride out entirely at home. |
Anonymous
Just like a cold or flu, there is a whole spectrum from almost no symptoms and you’d never guess you have it to very serious. Only a small percentage of infected people need care. We don’t know what percent yet because we aren’t testing people with mild symptoms to see if they have it. |
Anonymous
Fever reducers ? Can this make it worse when fever is not life threathening? |
Anonymous
These numbers for temperatures just indicate a "high fever" versus a "low grade fever" of more like 100.5 degrees F. Many things can cause a high fever. A viral infection, a bacterial infection, heat exhaustion, a malignant tumor. Doctors cannot use "high fever" alone to make a diagnosis of anything. It needs to be seen along with other signs and symptoms. |
Anonymous
I would follow your doctor's guidance if you are concerned about the effect of using something like ibuprufen to bring a fever down for comfort. This seems like pretty basic home care for mild illness, but if you are very concerned about it, please contact your medical provider. |
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7 new cases in Italy, including the first in Milan, bringing the total to 62, including two deaths.
Milan Fashion Week will continue--the show must go on--but an eyewear fair has been postponed. The University of Venice has been closed. Prison employees from certain affected areas have been exempted from work. (A lesson learned from China where a warden who had visited Wuhan infected hundreds of prisoners and prison officials.) https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/02/22/news/coronavirus_in_italia_aggiornamento_ora_per_ora-249241616/ |
Anonymous
1. This is specific temp. not a range, reported. 2.You bringing the zebras to the horse stable. I am talking about cases when people have obvious reasons to suspect coronavirus and have other symptoms to go with it. Brain tumor though .. you get points for creativity. |
Anonymous
No, there are not reports of people with coronavirus having temperature of EXACTLY 101.3 degrees. Like if they have a fever of 102 it isn't diagnosed as coronavirus. You asked if a temperature of exactly 101.3 could be useful in diagnosing COVID19. No, by itself, that specific temperature means nothing. |