Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

Learn some history. Democrat sponsored laws and regulations haven't come form "a desire to control people" apart from curbing harm to society.

Tell me how the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act "controls people" other than to curb racism?

The law that created OSHA addressed genuine workplace safety issues. Are you not aware of things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire where dozens of women died because the door was locked?

The Clean Water Act genuinely improved water quality. Prior to that we had things like the Cuyahoga River being so polluted that it would routinely catch on fire.

Social Security provided a much needed social safety net for senior citizens and the disabled.

And so on. And likewise, government regulations aren't dreamt up by agencies out of the blue. They usually come as a result of decades and decades of recurring problem, like kids being injured by unsafe products and so on.

Love Canal. Lung cancer from cigarettes. Children's' IQ damaged due to lead paint and leaded gas. Some of us remember those lessons and value the fact that Democrats stepped up to address them, as opposed to Republicans who time and time again threw workers and children under the bus in favor of getting their cut from their corporate donors.

It's always astounding how Republicans ignore history, pretend it's all unnecessary, unwarranted "nanny state" garbage that is solely to "control people."

The Democrats also have a long history of promoting and passing eugenics laws, if you are listing out their active social engineering legal activity! Surely you meant to include that!

(Republicans did too, before you come at me. I just despise this sort of rose-colored glasses rewriting of Democratic Party history.)

Eugenics laws?

*removes glasses, wipes them, and checks to see if today is 1924, or 2024*

Keep on stretching there, Stretch Armstrong.

Oh, I see. Like many Democratic Party propagandists, you are wildly ignorant of history. A history lesson for you:

The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire that you reference in your post was in 1911. In 1913, the federal Department of Labor was created, signed into existence by Republican President Taft hours before he left office, after losing to President Wilson. OSHA, however, was created by the passage of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, which was signed into law by Richard Nixon.

Meanwhile, contrary to your obvious ignorance, eugenics is still an ongoing issue. In blue California, it was not until 2010 that eugenics laws governing state hospitals were repealed. The laws promoting eugenics and eugenics policies were mostly pushed from approximately 1907-1937 (by both Republicans and Democrats, though eugenics was particularly associated with the Progressive movement). And it’s still a problem, also in both blue and red states. California paid out damages in *2021* to female prisoners sterilized from 2005 to 2011, while Virginia was the first state to apologize for forced sterilization (2002). There were also alleged forced sterilizations at ICE detention centers in 2020.

I am not by any means exculpating Republicans. But I absolutely despise the Democratic partisan rewriting of history like what you wrote. It’s ignorant, often has basic dates and facts wrong (like you wrote) and exculpates a lot of tremendous damage that Democrats supported.

Really now? The OSHA bill was originally promoted by Democrat LBJ, but died in Congress. The Johnson bill was then revived by DEMOCRATS, with opposition from Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce, who tried diverting the Johnson bill with a significantly watered-down alternative bill that Nixon backed. Ultimately it passed with a veto-proof majority and Nixon had no choice but to sign it.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that during the time period in question, California was run by a REPUBLICAN governor? That ICE sterilizations began in 2019 under Trump? And, the fact that some antiquated laws on the Virginia books doesn't mean they are currently supported, enforced?

I'm not the one "rewriting history" here and you "despise" me for something I didn't even do. Congratulations. You really keep stepping in it.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republican women are totally OK with being treated as nothing more than baby factories, as long as dirty brown people don't come across the border to take jobs no American wants.

Got it.

Posts like this make ME want to become a Republican.

—lifelong Dem

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me that Republican *policy* isn't geared towards denying women (and only women) reproductive freedom. And it's not just abortion - they're going after contraception as well. And the cherry on top is that they are proposing PUNISHMENT for having an abortion.

And spare me the lecture about immigration being a national security issue - if it was truly that, the GOP I used to know would have shut that shit off years ago. But Republicans don't want to solve the issue; it's too valuable to them as a wedge issue for political advantage. It's all dog whistles, and barely disguised ones at that.

The way I see it, any woman of reproductive age who still votes Republican is just like a Log Cabin Republican - willing to trade their entire identity for absolutely nothing.

How ‘bout I tell you instead that the holier-than-thou righteousness of the left is extraordinarily unappealing, even to people who pretty much agree with you?

Yuck

Are we not all stuck with these abortion bans because of holier than thou righteousness? Talk about unappealing.

NP- I'm an independent and I don't understand how people are still affiliated considering the disgusting rhetoric and lack of respect of both parties. It's not productive, and really only helps the vilest politicians on both sides to gain traction, and the press/media/social media when people gobble up divisive crap. I'm a reluctant Biden voter, but so tired of people not focusing on what they can agree on to just hurl insults at each other. The reality is most women, including republican women, are pro choice or hold some nuanced view of abortion, opposing bans. None of them will be convinced to vote Biden through ad-hominem attacks.

I don't like ad hominem attacks either, but if the ability to make your own health care decisions is something someone values at all, then how does that person vote in favor of a person and a party that are actively working to take that away? I do not get that.

To be blunt? Some of us don’t sleep around so a need for an abortion is not the driving force in our lives.

Really doubt that this post is made by a woman that has carried pregnancies and birthed babies. Poster after poster is pointing out all the things that go sideways with human reproduction. You just sound ignorant, inexperienced, and aggressively judgy about issues that have zero to do with sleeping around.

How many babies have you birthed? Any miscarriages? Fertility issues? Rapes? Fetal abnormalities?

2 kids
Multiple miscarriages at various stages
Minor age-related fertility isssues
No rapes
No fetal abnormalities

I am republican woman, 2 kids, 2 miscarriages, no major fertility issues, no rapes, no fetal abnormalities. I see more liberal woman with fetal abnormality and wondering if god telling them something.

What kind of person believes in a deity that causes misfortune to people who disagree with them politically?

God does not causes misfortune. He tells people not to kill, and if you proceed and kill the baby, then misfortune will falls on you. The God's words apply equally to all political spectrums, look at Biden's children.

So what does God think of His followers buying hollow-point ammunition?

And mass shootings are God's will. Too bad for those Uvalde kids.

No one finds this rhetoric persuasive.

May those little ones rest in peace.

It's pretty persuasive. I wonder what God thinks of you for not being persuaded.

I don't use dead children to antagonize strangers. Look up the Ulvade shooter. He wasn't a Republican. And you know what we didn't have when the nation had intact families and were raised with values? School shootings and widespread violence. You think the issue is guns. But the data shows that violence rose with the welfare state, which replaced fathers, churches, etc. I'm certain God approves of my choice not to take the death of children in vain. You've obviously had no dead children in your family.

This is why democrats will lose. A quick skim of this thread puts to rest the farce that the left attracts educated people. The complexity and coherence of the leftist argumentation on the last 2 pages should be embarrassing to anyone foolish enough to continue to identify as progressive.

Yeah, we didn't have automatic weapons when families were "raised with values", either. Values got thrown out the window when automatic weapons were legalized by republicans. Guns were more important than "values".

Automatic weapons have existed since the 1700s. Fully automatic since the 1800s. Read history.

Call it what you want. Republicans made school shootings possible. They think guns are more important than "values". You can't prezel logic your way out that fact. And God is judging you for it.

Republicans or the Constitution?

Automatic weapons didn't exist when the Constitution was created, so it's definitely Republicans who ushered in school shootings.

Do you know what a puckle gun is?

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.

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antiquated laws on the Virginia

+1

VA is not great. Adultery is still a crime
Divorce lawyers are foul in the state of VA bc they advise clients to “hire a private eye” as a strategy. It’s subversive and propped up by old laws that intended to round women up when they were unfaithful. Can someone please fix Va’s anti family laws??

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New Tech people beware of VA laws

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

Learn some history. Democrat sponsored laws and regulations haven't come form "a desire to control people" apart from curbing harm to society.

Tell me how the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act "controls people" other than to curb racism?

The law that created OSHA addressed genuine workplace safety issues. Are you not aware of things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire where dozens of women died because the door was locked?

The Clean Water Act genuinely improved water quality. Prior to that we had things like the Cuyahoga River being so polluted that it would routinely catch on fire.

Social Security provided a much needed social safety net for senior citizens and the disabled.

And so on. And likewise, government regulations aren't dreamt up by agencies out of the blue. They usually come as a result of decades and decades of recurring problem, like kids being injured by unsafe products and so on.

Love Canal. Lung cancer from cigarettes. Children's' IQ damaged due to lead paint and leaded gas. Some of us remember those lessons and value the fact that Democrats stepped up to address them, as opposed to Republicans who time and time again threw workers and children under the bus in favor of getting their cut from their corporate donors.

It's always astounding how Republicans ignore history, pretend it's all unnecessary, unwarranted "nanny state" garbage that is solely to "control people."

The Democrats also have a long history of promoting and passing eugenics laws, if you are listing out their active social engineering legal activity! Surely you meant to include that!

(Republicans did too, before you come at me. I just despise this sort of rose-colored glasses rewriting of Democratic Party history.)

Eugenics laws?

*removes glasses, wipes them, and checks to see if today is 1924, or 2024*

Keep on stretching there, Stretch Armstrong.

Oh, I see. Like many Democratic Party propagandists, you are wildly ignorant of history. A history lesson for you:

The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire that you reference in your post was in 1911. In 1913, the federal Department of Labor was created, signed into existence by Republican President Taft hours before he left office, after losing to President Wilson. OSHA, however, was created by the passage of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, which was signed into law by Richard Nixon.

Meanwhile, contrary to your obvious ignorance, eugenics is still an ongoing issue. In blue California, it was not until 2010 that eugenics laws governing state hospitals were repealed. The laws promoting eugenics and eugenics policies were mostly pushed from approximately 1907-1937 (by both Republicans and Democrats, though eugenics was particularly associated with the Progressive movement). And it’s still a problem, also in both blue and red states. California paid out damages in *2021* to female prisoners sterilized from 2005 to 2011, while Virginia was the first state to apologize for forced sterilization (2002). There were also alleged forced sterilizations at ICE detention centers in 2020.

I am not by any means exculpating Republicans. But I absolutely despise the Democratic partisan rewriting of history like what you wrote. It’s ignorant, often has basic dates and facts wrong (like you wrote) and exculpates a lot of tremendous damage that Democrats supported.

Really now? The OSHA bill was originally promoted by Democrat LBJ, but died in Congress. The Johnson bill was then revived by DEMOCRATS, with opposition from Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce, who tried diverting the Johnson bill with a significantly watered-down alternative bill that Nixon backed. Ultimately it passed with a veto-proof majority and Nixon had no choice but to sign it.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that during the time period in question, California was run by a REPUBLICAN governor? That ICE sterilizations began in 2019 under Trump? And, the fact that some antiquated laws on the Virginia books doesn't mean they are currently supported, enforced?

I'm not the one "rewriting history" here and you "despise" me for something I didn't even do. Congratulations. You really keep stepping in it.

You are scrambling now, because your obvious lack of historical knowledge was called out. Congratulations for your run to Wikipedia. I hope you learned something, since you clearly had a lot to learn.

Also, I’m not a Republican. You aren’t going to find me defending Republicans. I just despise blind Democratic brown-nosers like you who wash away deeply problematic Democratic history. It’s disgusting behavior.

Finally, could you point out exactly where in my post I said that the ICE sterilizations happened under a Democrat? I know historic accuracy isn’t your thing but that’s just a post ahead of you so should not be too hard.

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Anonymous wrote:antiquated laws on the Virginia

+1

VA is not great. Adultery is still a crime
Divorce lawyers are foul in the state of VA bc they advise clients to “hire a private eye” as a strategy. It’s subversive and propped up by old laws that intended to round women up when they were unfaithful. Can someone please fix Va’s anti family laws??

It’s actually to Virginia’s credit that they were the first state to apologize for eugenics.

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I love apologies. That does me a lot of good

I just would never tell any wide-eyed worker to buy a house in VA without a post marriage agreement in place. It’s not a no fault
state!!

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Anonymous wrote:I love apologies. That does me a lot of good

I just would never tell any wide-eyed worker to buy a house in VA without a post marriage agreement in place. It’s not a no fault
state!!

Oh, of course it’s meaningless. But they got a meaningless act together before the deep blue states did.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.

Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

Learn some history. Democrat sponsored laws and regulations haven't come form "a desire to control people" apart from curbing harm to society.

Tell me how the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act "controls people" other than to curb racism?

The law that created OSHA addressed genuine workplace safety issues. Are you not aware of things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire where dozens of women died because the door was locked?

The Clean Water Act genuinely improved water quality. Prior to that we had things like the Cuyahoga River being so polluted that it would routinely catch on fire.

Social Security provided a much needed social safety net for senior citizens and the disabled.

And so on. And likewise, government regulations aren't dreamt up by agencies out of the blue. They usually come as a result of decades and decades of recurring problem, like kids being injured by unsafe products and so on.

Love Canal. Lung cancer from cigarettes. Children's' IQ damaged due to lead paint and leaded gas. Some of us remember those lessons and value the fact that Democrats stepped up to address them, as opposed to Republicans who time and time again threw workers and children under the bus in favor of getting their cut from their corporate donors.

It's always astounding how Republicans ignore history, pretend it's all unnecessary, unwarranted "nanny state" garbage that is solely to "control people."

The Democrats also have a long history of promoting and passing eugenics laws, if you are listing out their active social engineering legal activity! Surely you meant to include that!

(Republicans did too, before you come at me. I just despise this sort of rose-colored glasses rewriting of Democratic Party history.)

Eugenics laws?

*removes glasses, wipes them, and checks to see if today is 1924, or 2024*

Keep on stretching there, Stretch Armstrong.

Oh, I see. Like many Democratic Party propagandists, you are wildly ignorant of history. A history lesson for you:

The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire that you reference in your post was in 1911. In 1913, the federal Department of Labor was created, signed into existence by Republican President Taft hours before he left office, after losing to President Wilson. OSHA, however, was created by the passage of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, which was signed into law by Richard Nixon.

Meanwhile, contrary to your obvious ignorance, eugenics is still an ongoing issue. In blue California, it was not until 2010 that eugenics laws governing state hospitals were repealed. The laws promoting eugenics and eugenics policies were mostly pushed from approximately 1907-1937 (by both Republicans and Democrats, though eugenics was particularly associated with the Progressive movement). And it’s still a problem, also in both blue and red states. California paid out damages in *2021* to female prisoners sterilized from 2005 to 2011, while Virginia was the first state to apologize for forced sterilization (2002). There were also alleged forced sterilizations at ICE detention centers in 2020.

I am not by any means exculpating Republicans. But I absolutely despise the Democratic partisan rewriting of history like what you wrote. It’s ignorant, often has basic dates and facts wrong (like you wrote) and exculpates a lot of tremendous damage that Democrats supported.

Really now? The OSHA bill was originally promoted by Democrat LBJ, but died in Congress. The Johnson bill was then revived by DEMOCRATS, with opposition from Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce, who tried diverting the Johnson bill with a significantly watered-down alternative bill that Nixon backed. Ultimately it passed with a veto-proof majority and Nixon had no choice but to sign it.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that during the time period in question, California was run by a REPUBLICAN governor? That ICE sterilizations began in 2019 under Trump? And, the fact that some antiquated laws on the Virginia books doesn't mean they are currently supported, enforced?

I'm not the one "rewriting history" here and you "despise" me for something I didn't even do. Congratulations. You really keep stepping in it.

You are scrambling now, because your obvious lack of historical knowledge was called out. Congratulations for your run to Wikipedia. I hope you learned something, since you clearly had a lot to learn.

Also, I’m not a Republican. You aren’t going to find me defending Republicans. I just despise blind Democratic brown-nosers like you who wash away deeply problematic Democratic history. It’s disgusting behavior.

Finally, could you point out exactly where in my post I said that the ICE sterilizations happened under a Democrat? I know historic accuracy isn’t your thing but that’s just a post ahead of you so should not be too hard.

You really are laughable, you know that? You got your own historical facts wrong, yet you continue to be mad at me for your own wrongness. Absolutely hilarious. I seriously don't know why you even bother continuing with this.

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Applause to symbolic laws. The Dems are great at that in VA. Let’s overturn some #%*.
We have a couple of congressional seats that are open too.

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in Europe in the 1980s & people there often called Reagan a “cowboy,” thinking it was a penetrating rebuke of his freewheeling tough-guy style.

But they didn’t realize the cowboy archetype embodied an array of attributes that many Americans found admirable. Contemporary Democrats make the same mistake with the term “MAGA.” They think it is a one-punch knockout, when in fact there are tens of millions of Americans who LIKE the values it represents. The lone man fighting against the corrupt system & being mocked by smug dandies (Democrats, Macron, Trudeau etc) is exactly what people like about Trump.

And his recent sham convictions only make him look more like Gary Cooper & John Wayne taking on the mob.

OMG be serious. Trump is so corrupt. He treats you like idiots but you are not actually that idiotic. He is corrupting the system to his advantage and always has and always will. He changed from being a Democrat to a Republican when he was not able to manipulate enough Democrats to his satisfaction.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

Learn some history. Democrat sponsored laws and regulations haven't come form "a desire to control people" apart from curbing harm to society.

Tell me how the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act "controls people" other than to curb racism?

The law that created OSHA addressed genuine workplace safety issues. Are you not aware of things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire where dozens of women died because the door was locked?

The Clean Water Act genuinely improved water quality. Prior to that we had things like the Cuyahoga River being so polluted that it would routinely catch on fire.

Social Security provided a much needed social safety net for senior citizens and the disabled.

And so on. And likewise, government regulations aren't dreamt up by agencies out of the blue. They usually come as a result of decades and decades of recurring problem, like kids being injured by unsafe products and so on.

Love Canal. Lung cancer from cigarettes. Children's' IQ damaged due to lead paint and leaded gas. Some of us remember those lessons and value the fact that Democrats stepped up to address them, as opposed to Republicans who time and time again threw workers and children under the bus in favor of getting their cut from their corporate donors.

It's always astounding how Republicans ignore history, pretend it's all unnecessary, unwarranted "nanny state" garbage that is solely to "control people."

The Democrats also have a long history of promoting and passing eugenics laws, if you are listing out their active social engineering legal activity! Surely you meant to include that!

(Republicans did too, before you come at me. I just despise this sort of rose-colored glasses rewriting of Democratic Party history.)

Eugenics laws?

*removes glasses, wipes them, and checks to see if today is 1924, or 2024*

Keep on stretching there, Stretch Armstrong.

Oh, I see. Like many Democratic Party propagandists, you are wildly ignorant of history. A history lesson for you:

The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire that you reference in your post was in 1911. In 1913, the federal Department of Labor was created, signed into existence by Republican President Taft hours before he left office, after losing to President Wilson. OSHA, however, was created by the passage of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, which was signed into law by Richard Nixon.

Meanwhile, contrary to your obvious ignorance, eugenics is still an ongoing issue. In blue California, it was not until 2010 that eugenics laws governing state hospitals were repealed. The laws promoting eugenics and eugenics policies were mostly pushed from approximately 1907-1937 (by both Republicans and Democrats, though eugenics was particularly associated with the Progressive movement). And it’s still a problem, also in both blue and red states. California paid out damages in *2021* to female prisoners sterilized from 2005 to 2011, while Virginia was the first state to apologize for forced sterilization (2002). There were also alleged forced sterilizations at ICE detention centers in 2020.

I am not by any means exculpating Republicans. But I absolutely despise the Democratic partisan rewriting of history like what you wrote. It’s ignorant, often has basic dates and facts wrong (like you wrote) and exculpates a lot of tremendous damage that Democrats supported.

Really now? The OSHA bill was originally promoted by Democrat LBJ, but died in Congress. The Johnson bill was then revived by DEMOCRATS, with opposition from Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce, who tried diverting the Johnson bill with a significantly watered-down alternative bill that Nixon backed. Ultimately it passed with a veto-proof majority and Nixon had no choice but to sign it.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that during the time period in question, California was run by a REPUBLICAN governor? That ICE sterilizations began in 2019 under Trump? And, the fact that some antiquated laws on the Virginia books doesn't mean they are currently supported, enforced?

I'm not the one "rewriting history" here and you "despise" me for something I didn't even do. Congratulations. You really keep stepping in it.

You are scrambling now, because your obvious lack of historical knowledge was called out. Congratulations for your run to Wikipedia. I hope you learned something, since you clearly had a lot to learn.

Also, I’m not a Republican. You aren’t going to find me defending Republicans. I just despise blind Democratic brown-nosers like you who wash away deeply problematic Democratic history. It’s disgusting behavior.

Finally, could you point out exactly where in my post I said that the ICE sterilizations happened under a Democrat? I know historic accuracy isn’t your thing but that’s just a post ahead of you so should not be too hard.

You really are laughable, you know that? You got your own historical facts wrong, yet you continue to be mad at me for your own wrongness. Absolutely hilarious. I seriously don't know why you even bother continuing with this.

Answer the question. Where precisely in my post did I say that forced sterilization under ICE was under the Democrats? Please quote exactly.

Let’s see you squirm away from your lies yet one more time.

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Nixon didn’t give a shit about the environment. Congress was determined to create an environmental regulatory agency so the Nixon Administration cooperated to negotiate it be weak and toothless against big corporate polluters. Stop the gaslighting.