Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

[Anonymous]

You know what makes me uncomfortable? People who have lost limbs. People who have disfiguring scars. Hobbling around. In wheelchairs. Especially the vets. Who wants their lovely Sunday afternoon destroyed by a reminder that in Wars, people who are too stupid to avoid serving can get hurt? It just makes me feel icky. If they are stupid enough to get hurt, they should stay home, out of sight and not mess up a perfectly nice day for the rest of us. /s

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

This isn't Iran. People are free to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, or NONBINARY. Whatever they are. It's shameful what happens in Iran. It's also shameful when trans people's existence is being debated and you posted that it shouldn't be condoned. That is shameful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former Tammy baldwin staffer - the pride stuff has gotten out of control.

Do the lgbtq’s not have any decorum anymore?

I love how senator baldwin carries herself. Why can’t todays lgbtq’s see her as a role model instead of what is taking place at 2023 pride?

The problem with starting a culture war— passing hundreds of laws banning the basic rights of and allowing discrimination of LGBTQ people, getting hysterical about drag shows that have been around forever, banning high school plays that kids from red and blue state have performed for years, listing it over rainbow cans, destroying Target displays— is that eventually the people being targeted will fight back. You wanted a culture war— now you have one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

Sorry, here’s some proof: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/43079/pdf/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/12/nhs-clinic-transing-gay-away/

I can certainly link more, that was just my first Google.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just tired of the acceptance of exhibitionism when it comes to all things Pride.
Why? Why is this necessary? And, why in front of children?
Do what you want in the privacy of your home.

Being topless in NYC is legal for all men and all women all year long. I would say that if you saw this in public and you were with a child, you can take your child away from the situation. This is true whether is a group of lesbians as in the video or a single straight woman choosing to walk topless down the street.

Making it legal does not make it right.

Your puritan morals, ethics, and standards are not facts. You and your morals are not right.

So you think this is ok to expose children to?

I think it's fine for them to be topless in public. If someone thinks it's inappropriate for their children to see the upper half of a woman's body then they should remove their children from people that choose to be naked from the waist up. It's incumbent on you as a parent to police your morals. It's not the job of every other human on the planet to conform to your standards.

They are not just topless. They are totally nude. Men.

Why? Why is this necessary? What is the point?

From their signs it looks like a body positivity movement. Personally, I have few objections to nudity that is not sexualized. If people are riding bikes nekkid or dancing in a fountain, it seems pretty joyful and benign to me.

That’s what I love most about nudists. At least where I live, it’s different ages and body types. They promote feeling good and accepting yourself and others. It’s not sexual.

That's lovely. They can take their promotion of feeling good to nudist camps and other places where it is legal. Not on public streets.

+1 exactly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

Not necessarily. Being trans has been a thing in some Eastern cultures going back millennia. Being trans and being gay are completely different things. What they have in common is sex organs and being a minority. Which are both flashing red lights for the God and guns crowd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

That's literally not true. As far as I know, only Iran does that. Most of the others murder trans people or torture and forcibly detransition them.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/12/03/qatar-trans-abuse-conversion-therapy/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

Sorry, here’s some proof: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/43079/pdf/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/12/nhs-clinic-transing-gay-away/

I can certainly link more, that was just my first Google.

Okay, so because an advocate group in Great Britain that admits it is unrecognized and unfounded and has a theory on how to stop trans? And a Telegraph article behind a paywall.

That’s not proof. That’s one “unfounded, unrecognized” groups opinion. And a paywall. I meant science. Or at least social science.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

Sorry, here’s some proof: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/43079/pdf/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/12/nhs-clinic-transing-gay-away/

I can certainly link more, that was just my first Google.

What does this have to do with Iranian policy on gender and sexual minorities?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

Not necessarily. Being trans has been a thing in some Eastern cultures going back millennia. Being trans and being gay are completely different things. What they have in common is sex organs and being a minority. Which are both flashing red lights for the God and guns crowd.

I’d love some links to proof that historical cultures have decided the case regarding transgenderism.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

It’s not ridiculous to posit that gay children are being converted into trans women or men. Look at Iran.

No. It is, in fact, ridiculous. Link to some sort of proof or sit down.

Since we’re not allowed to be gender critical because that’s what right wingers do and they’re bigots, shouldn’t it be concerning that the most homophobic countries are the ones that are most trans-friendly?

Sorry, here’s some proof: https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/43079/pdf/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/12/nhs-clinic-transing-gay-away/

I can certainly link more, that was just my first Google.

Okay, so because an advocate group in Great Britain that admits it is unrecognized and unfounded and has a theory on how to stop trans? And a Telegraph article behind a paywall.

That’s not proof. That’s one “unfounded, unrecognized” groups opinion. And a paywall. I meant science. Or at least social science.

Did you check out the LGB Alliance?

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No paywall - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11205739/Soon-close-NHS-Tavistock-clinic-accused-transing-gay-away-bitter-legal-dispute.html