Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just tired of the acceptance of exhibitionism when it comes to all things Pride.
Why? Why is this necessary? And, why in front of children?
Do what you want in the privacy of your home.

Being topless in NYC is legal for all men and all women all year long. I would say that if you saw this in public and you were with a child, you can take your child away from the situation. This is true whether is a group of lesbians as in the video or a single straight woman choosing to walk topless down the street.

Making it legal does not make it right.

Your puritan morals, ethics, and standards are not facts. You and your morals are not right.

So you think this is ok to expose children to?

I think it's fine for them to be topless in public. If someone thinks it's inappropriate for their children to see the upper half of a woman's body then they should remove their children from people that choose to be naked from the waist up. It's incumbent on you as a parent to police your morals. It's not the job of every other human on the planet to conform to your standards.

They are not just topless. They are totally nude. Men.

Why? Why is this necessary? What is the point?

From their signs it looks like a body positivity movement. Personally, I have few objections to nudity that is not sexualized. If people are riding bikes nekkid or dancing in a fountain, it seems pretty joyful and benign to me.

It is indecent exposure. And, unless I am incorrect, public nudity is not legal.
Why is it ok here?

1. It isn’t. As has been said it’s illegal. Is it enforced during a Seattle Pride parade? Apparently not. So, I wouldn take my kids to the parade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am just tired of the acceptance of exhibitionism when it comes to all things Pride.
Why? Why is this necessary? And, why in front of children?
Do what you want in the privacy of your home.

Being topless in NYC is legal for all men and all women all year long. I would say that if you saw this in public and you were with a child, you can take your child away from the situation. This is true whether is a group of lesbians as in the video or a single straight woman choosing to walk topless down the street.

Making it legal does not make it right.

Your puritan morals, ethics, and standards are not facts. You and your morals are not right.

So you think this is ok to expose children to?

I think it's fine for them to be topless in public. If someone thinks it's inappropriate for their children to see the upper half of a woman's body then they should remove their children from people that choose to be naked from the waist up. It's incumbent on you as a parent to police your morals. It's not the job of every other human on the planet to conform to your standards.

They are not just topless. They are totally nude. Men.

Why? Why is this necessary? What is the point?

From their signs it looks like a body positivity movement. Personally, I have few objections to nudity that is not sexualized. If people are riding bikes nekkid or dancing in a fountain, it seems pretty joyful and benign to me.

That’s what I love most about nudists. At least where I live, it’s different ages and body types. They promote feeling good and accepting yourself and others. It’s not sexual.

Definitely not sexual!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am just tired of the acceptance of exhibitionism when it comes to all things Pride.
Why? Why is this necessary? And, why in front of children?
Do what you want in the privacy of your home.

Being topless in NYC is legal for all men and all women all year long. I would say that if you saw this in public and you were with a child, you can take your child away from the situation. This is true whether is a group of lesbians as in the video or a single straight woman choosing to walk topless down the street.

Making it legal does not make it right.

Your puritan morals, ethics, and standards are not facts. You and your morals are not right.

So you think this is ok to expose children to?

I think it's fine for them to be topless in public. If someone thinks it's inappropriate for their children to see the upper half of a woman's body then they should remove their children from people that choose to be naked from the waist up. It's incumbent on you as a parent to police your morals. It's not the job of every other human on the planet to conform to your standards.

They are not just topless. They are totally nude. Men.

Why? Why is this necessary? What is the point?

From their signs it looks like a body positivity movement. Personally, I have few objections to nudity that is not sexualized. If people are riding bikes nekkid or dancing in a fountain, it seems pretty joyful and benign to me.

That’s what I love most about nudists. At least where I live, it’s different ages and body types. They promote feeling good and accepting yourself and others. It’s not sexual.

That's lovely. They can take their promotion of feeling good to nudist camps and other places where it is legal. Not on public streets.

Why is it okay to take your child to a nude beach in Florida (legal) and not a Pride parade with some (illegal) nudity. If children must be protected from parents who would expose them to nudity, why is t DeSantis doing something. A child on a nude beach seems a lot worse than putting a rainbow on a 1st grade door on St. Patrick’s Day. But, DeSantisites are too busy policing rainbows in elementary schools t address nude beaches that allow minors. Talk about ass-backward values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m originally from a rural small town. When I visit my parents, there are Trump yard signs around. I’ve chatted with people from town who tell about abut gay children or gay grandchildren. They seem very accepting and have no issue with it. And in the same conversation, they’ll tell me the election was unfair and how wonderful Trump was for our country.

There's not as big a disconnect there as liberals (like me) want there to be. Apart from being a terrible person, Trump's policies actually weren't that bad. And no, that's not sarcasm. Trump is a dumpster fire of a human being. But what did he actually DO policy wise that was terrible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

Yes, they made it okay to be trans. To talk about it. To get help and support. To feel less alone. To not kill themselves.

It’s the nature of being a teen to try to figure out where you fit in in the world. To pierce things, dye things, smoke things, try on activities, being goth, being a tortured artist. And when all else fails, to roll your eyes about parents not understanding. Which, to be fair, they often don’t. It’s a teen’s job develop their own separate identity. It’s your job decide what the guardrails are. You can ignore the fads, in which case get kids who aren’t genuinely trans will get bored and move on. Or you can try to outlaw being trans. Which immediately makes it even more enticing. Parenting teens involves a lot of making judgment calls about what battles to fight. You can fight the trans battle with your own kid. Good luck with that and hope you don’t guess fad when they are genuinely trans and end up with a dead kid. Or you can not blow a gasket, watch and wait, and get them a therapist and talk to medical professionals you trust if they show signs of it being a serious thing.

If trans weren’t a fad, something else would be. And what ever it was would also make you crazy. Welcome to parenting a teen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

If you don't "condone" the T, then what do you do to trans people? Condemn it? Asking as the trans person that posts here. Trans people aren't new. I was a trans kid before I was a trans adult. Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3302B4AD-861A-43C5-ADD03329663989CF_source.jpg?w=2000&h=1123&37A79A24-142B-40EF-975592014E5D507D

I meant to post an article, not the picture. Being trans isn't new.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

Yes, they made it okay to be trans. To talk about it. To get help and support. To feel less alone. To not kill themselves.

It’s the nature of being a teen to try to figure out where you fit in in the world. To pierce things, dye things, smoke things, try on activities, being goth, being a tortured artist. And when all else fails, to roll your eyes about parents not understanding. Which, to be fair, they often don’t. It’s a teen’s job develop their own separate identity. It’s your job decide what the guardrails are. You can ignore the fads, in which case get kids who aren’t genuinely trans will get bored and move on. Or you can try to outlaw being trans. Which immediately makes it even more enticing. Parenting teens involves a lot of making judgment calls about what battles to fight. You can fight the trans battle with your own kid. Good luck with that and hope you don’t guess fad when they are genuinely trans and end up with a dead kid. Or you can not blow a gasket, watch and wait, and get them a therapist and talk to medical professionals you trust if they show signs of it being a serious thing.

If trans weren’t a fad, something else would be. And what ever it was would also make you crazy. Welcome to parenting a teen.

I agree with most of this but no other fad includes chopping off healthy body parts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

Yes, they made it okay to be trans. To talk about it. To get help and support. To feel less alone. To not kill themselves.

It’s the nature of being a teen to try to figure out where you fit in in the world. To pierce things, dye things, smoke things, try on activities, being goth, being a tortured artist. And when all else fails, to roll your eyes about parents not understanding. Which, to be fair, they often don’t. It’s a teen’s job develop their own separate identity. It’s your job decide what the guardrails are. You can ignore the fads, in which case get kids who aren’t genuinely trans will get bored and move on. Or you can try to outlaw being trans. Which immediately makes it even more enticing. Parenting teens involves a lot of making judgment calls about what battles to fight. You can fight the trans battle with your own kid. Good luck with that and hope you don’t guess fad when they are genuinely trans and end up with a dead kid. Or you can not blow a gasket, watch and wait, and get them a therapist and talk to medical professionals you trust if they show signs of it being a serious thing.

If trans weren’t a fad, something else would be. And what ever it was would also make you crazy. Welcome to parenting a teen.

I agree with most of this but no other fad includes chopping off healthy body parts.

Most other fads don't include compelled speech under the guise of "kindness" either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m originally from a rural small town. When I visit my parents, there are Trump yard signs around. I’ve chatted with people from town who tell about abut gay children or gay grandchildren. They seem very accepting and have no issue with it. And in the same conversation, they’ll tell me the election was unfair and how wonderful Trump was for our country.

There's not as big a disconnect there as liberals (like me) want there to be. Apart from being a terrible person, Trump's policies actually weren't that bad. And no, that's not sarcasm. Trump is a dumpster fire of a human being. But what did he actually DO policy wise that was terrible?

Muslim Bans
Family separations at the border
Roll back federal protections for LGBT kids
Appoint three justices to the Supreme Court who overturned Roe v Wade
A 5 week government shutdown
Abandoning the Kurds
Unleash the anti mask movement at a time when hospitals were overrun, hundreds of thousands were dying, we had no handle on what COVID was and we had no vaccines
Fail to provide coherent anything from the Department of Education on reopening schools
Roll back critical EPA regulations, especially in the area of clean water
Deny the election results and incite an insurrection
And when he left, take highly classified documents and leve them sitting unsecured in his bathroom

For starters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am just tired of the acceptance of exhibitionism when it comes to all things Pride.
Why? Why is this necessary? And, why in front of children?
Do what you want in the privacy of your home.

Being topless in NYC is legal for all men and all women all year long. I would say that if you saw this in public and you were with a child, you can take your child away from the situation. This is true whether is a group of lesbians as in the video or a single straight woman choosing to walk topless down the street.

Making it legal does not make it right.

Luckily, friendly conservatives are here to help “protect” children who might otherwise think it’s okay to be gay. Without these helpful GOP voters, the children might be intimidated. If you want to see how helpful conservatives are, how mindful they are of children’s development, you’ll have to fix the name of the link. I’ve replaced the first letter with a capital X: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyXuckingVideos/comments/14innrn/we_just_wanna_protect_the_kids/#

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a difficult one for me. I grew up in an evangelical church where I was preached to about homosexuality being a sin and how gay marriage would open the door to anything and everything.

I didn’t really know what to think, and grew up to become a moderate voter who has some progressive beliefs. I’m hardly conservative but not very liberal either.

Now I’m really concerned the minister and others were right. Now gay marriage is legal and we have drag queen events at my local bookstore in a small town. The transgender kid thing is bizarre and doesn’t make sense. I was recently asked at the on-gyn if I identify as a woman or man or if I’m a man or woman. It seems like gay marriage has made everything worse. I don’t want homosexuality in my face and don’t want my kids exposed at a young age. It used to be a fringe lifestyle and now it’s something young kids are exposed to on a regular basis. Make it stop.

Why? Because gay people forming families in a manner you are unfamiliar with makes you uncomfortable? Sounds like a you problem. The solution to your being uncomfortable should be solved by making LGBTQ people more uncomfortable by shoving them back in the closet. LGBTQ has always existed and will always exist and no one should have their family marginalized because your issues. It should be solved by asking “what would Jesus do”? And I realize your preacher taught you the answer was hatred and fear. But the Bible is pretty clear that you should lead with love, empathy and an effort to understand and accept others.

I grew up in the rural South in a conservative church without trans kids too. And I’m not going to pretend that I “get” it. What I do get, especially after talking with—and much more importantly listening too— my own college aged children and my friends with non-binary and trans kids, is that these are very vulnerable kids and a large percentage commit suicide. I would rather feel uncomfortable with the increased visibility of trans kids than have those kids kill themselves because they are square pegs who cannot not fit through round holes.

And BTW, gay marriage didn’t “cause” kids to become trans. What it did was allow kids who were already trans to finally get the help and support they needed.

And drag shows/ drag Queen story hours have been around forever. They are just more visible because RWNJs think people like you will be outraged enough to vote for Trump. And, to be fair, your most makes it clear they are right. If they bother you, don’t go.

I disagree with the bolded pretty strongly. While gay marriage doesn't cause kids to be trans, when the whole gay movement went from LGB to LGBT, it condoned T to the point where it has become a fad of sorts. There is no way in hell the number of kids who claim to be trans are actually trans. And, wth is nonbinary? That does not make sense to me.

Yes, they made it okay to be trans. To talk about it. To get help and support. To feel less alone. To not kill themselves.

It’s the nature of being a teen to try to figure out where you fit in in the world. To pierce things, dye things, smoke things, try on activities, being goth, being a tortured artist. And when all else fails, to roll your eyes about parents not understanding. Which, to be fair, they often don’t. It’s a teen’s job develop their own separate identity. It’s your job decide what the guardrails are. You can ignore the fads, in which case get kids who aren’t genuinely trans will get bored and move on. Or you can try to outlaw being trans. Which immediately makes it even more enticing. Parenting teens involves a lot of making judgment calls about what battles to fight. You can fight the trans battle with your own kid. Good luck with that and hope you don’t guess fad when they are genuinely trans and end up with a dead kid. Or you can not blow a gasket, watch and wait, and get them a therapist and talk to medical professionals you trust if they show signs of it being a serious thing.

If trans weren’t a fad, something else would be. And what ever it was would also make you crazy. Welcome to parenting a teen.

I agree with most of this but no other fad includes chopping off healthy body parts.

And few— if any— minors are getting allowed to get gender reassignment surgery. It’s not the standard of care for minors.

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I’m a former Tammy baldwin staffer - the pride stuff has gotten out of control.

Do the lgbtq’s not have any decorum anymore?

I love how senator baldwin carries herself. Why can’t todays lgbtq’s see her as a role model instead of what is taking place at 2023 pride?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m originally from a rural small town. When I visit my parents, there are Trump yard signs around. I’ve chatted with people from town who tell about abut gay children or gay grandchildren. They seem very accepting and have no issue with it. And in the same conversation, they’ll tell me the election was unfair and how wonderful Trump was for our country.

There's not as big a disconnect there as liberals (like me) want there to be. Apart from being a terrible person, Trump's policies actually weren't that bad. And no, that's not sarcasm. Trump is a dumpster fire of a human being. But what did he actually DO policy wise that was terrible?

Muslim Bans
Family separations at the border
Roll back federal protections for LGBT kids
Appoint three justices to the Supreme Court who overturned Roe v Wade
A 5 week government shutdown
Abandoning the Kurds
Unleash the anti mask movement at a time when hospitals were overrun, hundreds of thousands were dying, we had no handle on what COVID was and we had no vaccines
Fail to provide coherent anything from the Department of Education on reopening schools
Roll back critical EPA regulations, especially in the area of clean water
Deny the election results and incite an insurrection
And when he left, take highly classified documents and leve them sitting unsecured in his bathroom

For starters.

His lying. 30, 573. Big ones, small ones, complicated ones, simple ones, ones with smaller implications, ones with bigger implications. Lies, lies, lies, lies.
He also stole PPE, guaranteeing that covid would burn blue states harder (at first).
Weaken America’s position abroad and make sure that our allies are weaker, too
Withdrew from Paris Accord
Screwing over all but the rich with his terrible tax plan

Not a policy position per se, but beyond just a “terrible person:” evidently greenlighting the murder of a journalist seeking American citizenship.