Magruder HS Shooting

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According to this article, the victims condition is now listed as critical:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/01/22/magruder-high-shooting-ghost-gun-student-charged/

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Anonymous wrote:One of the news outlets found the shooters address by searching his name in the moco arrest database so he had a record and an SRO would have been aware of that.

Which news outlet and could you please post a link?

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Anonymous wrote:Shout out to the School Nurse. Read Ehrlich’s tweet sounds like she was great at her job as school first responder.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of Elrich, but his response was what I'd expect from a leader. McKnight's was not -- she didn't even acknowledge the nurse.

Yes. Elrich is a clear thinker. She's not. The Principal of Magruder most decidedly is not.

I don't fault the principal on this. They're not all the way at the top. I expect leadership qualities like that from county exec or superintendent, but we have 150+ principals at MCPS, generally former teachers. They are not trained nor raised to be leaders at that level.

Agreed - Dr. Evans is very good, and most parents we speak with at the school agree. Whatever panic was perceived is simply second hand and up for interpretation. It is confirmed that there was no yelling, or mistakes in protocol / leadership.

Eight minutes between calling 911 and locking down the school is a mistake in protocol.

Dr. Evans has a history of failing to follow protocols.

I’ve been really happy with him.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t high schools have security guards?

They do, and there was one at Magruder when this happened. An SRO couldn’t have stopped this, just like the SROs in Parkland couldn’t stop the mass shooting there.

Pretty much. At least in this case only one person was shot and the culprit was caught. Sometimes it's better to have the regular police deal with these sorts of things: the culprits get charged as adults that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t high schools have security guards?

They do, and there was one at Magruder when this happened. An SRO couldn’t have stopped this, just like the SROs in Parkland couldn’t stop the mass shooting there.

Pretty much. At least in this case only one person was shot and the culprit was caught. Sometimes it's better to have the regular police deal with these sorts of things: the culprits get charged as adults that way.

The SROs in Parkland hid outside the building while shots were fired.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-derwood-shooting-student-bathroom-montgomery-county-public-schools-lockdown-police-officers-mcknight

This timeline is extremely disturbing.

Wow. I am totally shook at the timeline and misinformation from MCPS after a shooting at Magruder.

The knee jerk reaction was to attempt passing off a shooting as a medical emergency???? What type of BS MCPS Administrator training teaches principals to not be upfront and honest with the community that a student had been shot in the school bathroom???? This is why parents no longer have any trust in MCPS. Flat out deceptive lies.

A situation of the magnitude of a shooting is why SROs need to be in schools. MCPS cares jack sh$t about safety of students and staff. They are complete idiots that didn’t recognize the severity of the situation of a critically injured student in their bathroom. What would the reaction and call to dispatch have been if an SRO been on the scene to begin with? I bet all of the squad cars would have had lights on and swat there in a heartbeat because a uniformed police officer would fully report the magnitude of the situation one she/he has eyes on it.

I pray to God that the Board of Ed comes to its senses and bring SROs back into schools and look into why administrators time in and time out are dishonest when issues occur on their watch.

Honest question, what would a SRO have done in this situation?

Call for police backup, not community response.

+1 immediately, not wait several minute. SROs are trained to identify, manage and respond to such incidents as part of being a cop. This is not the primary training for school admins.

My take from the timeline provided by ABC - there seemed to be a lack of identifying the situation as life threatening for the student and an individual still in the school with a gun. The calls that got notice were the EMTs and the police who recognized the wound as a gun shot wound.

If an SRO was in the school back up would have been swifter. I agree having a police officer in schools prevents situations from going down a path of violence.

MCPS didn’t seem to consider that the suspect was still armed and in the school. The only reason this wasn’t a mass casualty event was that the shooter didn’t target anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the news outlets found the shooters address by searching his name in the moco arrest database so he had a record and an SRO would have been aware of that.

False. He’s a juvenile only now being charged as an adult. You can’t search a “database” for confidential juvenile cases. It’s a common name anyway.

An SRO could search for custody orders I guess- but that’s if he ran away or had a pending case and they didn’t n kw where he was. Here- he was in school.
Stop grasping.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know who the student was and who was shot.

If so, share.

We all know what really happened. So does cops. Snitches get stitches so not talking

Who is we?

They have identified the student who is responsible for the shooting. They are charging him as an adult.

Wow

What's wow about this? We all knew it was an attending student. What I want to know is who this kid was, how did he manufacture a ghost gun at home, and who his parents were.

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Anonymous wrote:Why no pictures of the shooter? He’s being charged as an adult.

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Has Jawando issued a statement except for wishing the victim a speedy recovery? What is his plan now? He removed the SROs from MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Has Jawando issued a statement except for wishing the victim a speedy recovery? What is his plan now? He removed the SROs from MCPS.

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I would like to hear this, as well.

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I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it too soon to discuss the fact that monifa grabbed her pink coat with the leapord print collar instead of something more appropriate for the situation

With the matching pink mask. She was an hour late which delayed the kids being released but that delay was important, because she had to look good for cameras.

You can’t be serious, right?

I wish I was. She was an hour late for the press conference photo op and purposefully delayed the release of the kids but she definitely had time to make sure that that her pink mask matched her pink coat with the animal print collar. It provides a small window into what her priorities are and it’s clearly not the kids.

Sounds like a conspiracy. Hmmm

The guy next to her is wearing a pink tie so I hope you’re outraged at his choice as well.

I am. Screw that guy. What's his name?

John McCarthy the States Attorney

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Anonymous wrote:Shout out to the School Nurse. Read Ehrlich’s tweet sounds like she was great at her job as school first responder.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of Elrich, but his response was what I'd expect from a leader. McKnight's was not -- she didn't even acknowledge the nurse.

Yes. Elrich is a clear thinker. She's not. The Principal of Magruder most decidedly is not.

I don't fault the principal on this. They're not all the way at the top. I expect leadership qualities like that from county exec or superintendent, but we have 150+ principals at MCPS, generally former teachers. They are not trained nor raised to be leaders at that level.

Agreed - Dr. Evans is very good, and most parents we speak with at the school agree. Whatever panic was perceived is simply second hand and up for interpretation. It is confirmed that there was no yelling, or mistakes in protocol / leadership.

Eight minutes between calling 911 and locking down the school is a mistake in protocol.

Dr. Evans has a history of failing to follow protocols.

I’ve been really happy with him.

This. +1

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.