Navy ES Principal Arrested

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Anonymous wrote:This whole mess is Coch’s fault. He should have immediately resigned after his sentencing so they could hire someone else. Because he didn’t, they couldn’t release him from his contract legally until June. And they couldn’t list the position until his contract expired. Stop blaming Reid and others for Coch’s actions which caused this mess in the first place. It’s mind boggling how so many people thought he could come back after this.

This. I am shocked that people would him back after this. I don't want my kids thinking it's okay if you drink and drive and damage someone's property (and could have damaged a person if there had been one there) and there are no consequences. It's pretty sick that so many of you think that's an okay lesson to teach your kids.

+1 why is the Navy community (staff and parents) so damn scared of having a new principal? Is it because some of them had an “in” with Coch and got preferential treatment, and are now afraid they won’t have that with the new principal? Maybe the new principal will be even better! And we will all be on equal footing now at least.

Scared because Navy ranking is so high.

Do not want to loose winning formula, though only 4% FARMs help many.

The combination of AAP center + 4% FARMS means that Navy's great school ratings will remain high no matter what. The principal has ZERO to do with that.

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Spring Hill had four principals in the space of five years and they were all dumpster fires.

The Great Schools rating actually went up.

See this is why people want Coch back. He is a known quantity.

I’m excited to get someone new and possibly get the bad teachers out!

There are no truly "bad" teachers at navy. There are a few that are less interactive than others but no terrible ones.

That’s your opinion. We have experienced some really bad teachers.

Which ones? Would like to avoid bad teachers.

I will not name names on this board because I don’t think that’s fair, but there are a few that have been bad. Bad could include: poor communication, poor overall teaching, poor grading. I am excited about a new principal because usually teachers step up their game to impress them.

There are some that are not great but it's possible those will be the ones to leave. However none are truly "bad". If you think that then you are very privileged to have never had a actual bad teacher.

Completely disagree with you. You have no idea what my child’s experience was and don’t know enough to say it was not bad. How dare you.

You seem really worked up. You should just come out and say what this experience is if you want any sympathy. If anything, the majority of the teachers are super patient given the some of the kids they have had to deal with. If I'm annoyed at anyone, it's at some of these parents that send their crappy kids to school that have serious behavioral issues and expect the teachers to deal with it and the rest of the kids to just accept and ignore it.

We may have found the bad teacher at Navy!

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I will admit poor choice of words. Running out of classroom and pull fire alarm for example. If you are really special ed teacher then thank you and I hope you are appreciated.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole mess is Coch’s fault. He should have immediately resigned after his sentencing so they could hire someone else. Because he didn’t, they couldn’t release him from his contract legally until June. And they couldn’t list the position until his contract expired. Stop blaming Reid and others for Coch’s actions which caused this mess in the first place. It’s mind boggling how so many people thought he could come back after this.

This. I am shocked that people would him back after this. I don't want my kids thinking it's okay if you drink and drive and damage someone's property (and could have damaged a person if there had been one there) and there are no consequences. It's pretty sick that so many of you think that's an okay lesson to teach your kids.

+1 why is the Navy community (staff and parents) so damn scared of having a new principal? Is it because some of them had an “in” with Coch and got preferential treatment, and are now afraid they won’t have that with the new principal? Maybe the new principal will be even better! And we will all be on equal footing now at least.

Scared because Navy ranking is so high.

Do not want to loose winning formula, though only 4% FARMs help many.

The combination of AAP center + 4% FARMS means that Navy's great school ratings will remain high no matter what. The principal has ZERO to do with that.

+100

Spring Hill had four principals in the space of five years and they were all dumpster fires.

The Great Schools rating actually went up.

See this is why people want Coch back. He is a known quantity.

I’m excited to get someone new and possibly get the bad teachers out!

There are no truly "bad" teachers at navy. There are a few that are less interactive than others but no terrible ones.

That’s your opinion. We have experienced some really bad teachers.

Which ones? Would like to avoid bad teachers.

I will not name names on this board because I don’t think that’s fair, but there are a few that have been bad. Bad could include: poor communication, poor overall teaching, poor grading. I am excited about a new principal because usually teachers step up their game to impress them.

There are some that are not great but it's possible those will be the ones to leave. However none are truly "bad". If you think that then you are very privileged to have never had a actual bad teacher.

Completely disagree with you. You have no idea what my child’s experience was and don’t know enough to say it was not bad. How dare you.

You seem really worked up. You should just come out and say what this experience is if you want any sympathy. If anything, the majority of the teachers are super patient given the some of the kids they have had to deal with. If I'm annoyed at anyone, it's at some of these parents that send their crappy kids to school that have serious behavioral issues and expect the teachers to deal with it and the rest of the kids to just accept and ignore it.

Not looking for sympathy. Just pointing out that you can have bad teachers at any school, including Navy. The idea that Navy doesn’t have bad teachers is absolutely ridiculous and untrue.

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Let's stop this bickering or we don't get a new principal or teachers! They will read this and think we are all mad!

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Anonymous wrote:Let's stop this bickering or we don't get a new principal or teachers! They will read this and think we are all mad!

That is absolutely what it looks like. Especially the person who called kids crappy.

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Anonymous wrote:I will admit poor choice of words. Running out of classroom and pull fire alarm for example. If you are really special ed teacher then thank you and I hope you are appreciated.

Thank you. It just makes me sad when I see those kids getting judged in the gen Ed class and I appreciate your clarification. So now I will address your very valid concern.

I agree there is an issue. Personally I feel like the issues are caused by:

1) Class size. Teachers cannot effectively implement IEPs when they have over 30 kids in their class. We need more teachers. And the only way we’ll get that is if the parents show up to the board meeting and demand them.
2) Instructional support. I don’t know how some of these kids are getting pushed into the classroom without necessary support. Well…I do know. There aren’t enough resources. But again you need to fight for it. Stop arguing. Pool your resources. And work together. Reid owes us and she knows it. Now is the time to negotiate.
3) we need a *strong*, skilled, knowledgeable principal who is exceptionally skilled in dealing with these types of behavior issues, and one who will provide support to the teachers when they are dealing with them.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole mess is Coch’s fault. He should have immediately resigned after his sentencing so they could hire someone else. Because he didn’t, they couldn’t release him from his contract legally until June. And they couldn’t list the position until his contract expired. Stop blaming Reid and others for Coch’s actions which caused this mess in the first place. It’s mind boggling how so many people thought he could come back after this.

This. I am shocked that people would him back after this. I don't want my kids thinking it's okay if you drink and drive and damage someone's property (and could have damaged a person if there had been one there) and there are no consequences. It's pretty sick that so many of you think that's an okay lesson to teach your kids.

+1 why is the Navy community (staff and parents) so damn scared of having a new principal? Is it because some of them had an “in” with Coch and got preferential treatment, and are now afraid they won’t have that with the new principal? Maybe the new principal will be even better! And we will all be on equal footing now at least.

Scared because Navy ranking is so high.

Do not want to loose winning formula, though only 4% FARMs help many.

The combination of AAP center + 4% FARMS means that Navy's great school ratings will remain high no matter what. The principal has ZERO to do with that.

+100

Spring Hill had four principals in the space of five years and they were all dumpster fires.

The Great Schools rating actually went up.

See this is why people want Coch back. He is a known quantity.

I’m excited to get someone new and possibly get the bad teachers out!

There are no truly "bad" teachers at navy. There are a few that are less interactive than others but no terrible ones.

That’s your opinion. We have experienced some really bad teachers.

Which ones? Would like to avoid bad teachers.

I will not name names on this board because I don’t think that’s fair, but there are a few that have been bad. Bad could include: poor communication, poor overall teaching, poor grading. I am excited about a new principal because usually teachers step up their game to impress them.

There are some that are not great but it's possible those will be the ones to leave. However none are truly "bad". If you think that then you are very privileged to have never had a actual bad teacher.

Completely disagree with you. You have no idea what my child’s experience was and don’t know enough to say it was not bad. How dare you.

You seem really worked up. You should just come out and say what this experience is if you want any sympathy. If anything, the majority of the teachers are super patient given the some of the kids they have had to deal with. If I'm annoyed at anyone, it's at some of these parents that send their crappy kids to school that have serious behavioral issues and expect the teachers to deal with it and the rest of the kids to just accept and ignore it.

It's super weird how "fangirl" some Navy moms are. Your school is not the best school. It's okay to admit that it has flaws.

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And this, friends, is why Navy has the reputation that it has.

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Anonymous wrote:And this, friends, is why Navy has the reputation that it has.

Seriously. It’s the new Haycock.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole mess is Coch’s fault. He should have immediately resigned after his sentencing so they could hire someone else. Because he didn’t, they couldn’t release him from his contract legally until June. And they couldn’t list the position until his contract expired. Stop blaming Reid and others for Coch’s actions which caused this mess in the first place. It’s mind boggling how so many people thought he could come back after this.

This. I am shocked that people would him back after this. I don't want my kids thinking it's okay if you drink and drive and damage someone's property (and could have damaged a person if there had been one there) and there are no consequences. It's pretty sick that so many of you think that's an okay lesson to teach your kids.

+1 why is the Navy community (staff and parents) so damn scared of having a new principal? Is it because some of them had an “in” with Coch and got preferential treatment, and are now afraid they won’t have that with the new principal? Maybe the new principal will be even better! And we will all be on equal footing now at least.

Because he was a normal down to Earth guy. We don't want any weirdos.

The idea that parents have an "in" with the principal is such a weird thing but parents definitely believe it. I've had three kids go through Navy and never been to a single PTO meeting. I do volunteer some, but there is 0% chance Coch knows who I am. The one time I had an issue he was very responsive and I still support him. I eavesdropped on a woman last night who very much felt like the in crowd was getting their comeuppance. It was nuts to me, but clearly that's a thing based on comments here.

I don't know. I am sure some moms may have had an "in" with the principal. I wasn't one of them but he was pretty friendly and knew who I was. I would be fine with him coming back but ok with someone new as well (not a weirdo). I just think about it this way, if I was negligent, as he was, and got a dwi, I would not expect to lose my private sector job and be shamed publicly. I feel like he made a mistake and he probably has been punished sufficiently, but that's just me.

You are naive then. Virginia is a Right to Work state. Any private sector employer can fire you on the spot if they think you have a lack of judgement that makes them look bad or more likely to steal. Public or Private, actions have consequences, the second he got behind the wheel he broke the law and is not entitled to a second chance anywhere. If he had killed someone you wouldn't be thinking what he did wasn't so bad.

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You know what? It doesn't matter. He isn't coming back like it or not. It's time to move on. We will get a knew principal and everything will be fine. It sucks for him but we will probably be better off.

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Anonymous wrote:And this, friends, is why Navy has the reputation that it has.

Seriously. It’s the new Haycock.

Louise Archer 2.0.

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At least the parents care enough to be involved.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole mess is Coch’s fault. He should have immediately resigned after his sentencing so they could hire someone else. Because he didn’t, they couldn’t release him from his contract legally until June. And they couldn’t list the position until his contract expired. Stop blaming Reid and others for Coch’s actions which caused this mess in the first place. It’s mind boggling how so many people thought he could come back after this.

This. I am shocked that people would him back after this. I don't want my kids thinking it's okay if you drink and drive and damage someone's property (and could have damaged a person if there had been one there) and there are no consequences. It's pretty sick that so many of you think that's an okay lesson to teach your kids.

+1 why is the Navy community (staff and parents) so damn scared of having a new principal? Is it because some of them had an “in” with Coch and got preferential treatment, and are now afraid they won’t have that with the new principal? Maybe the new principal will be even better! And we will all be on equal footing now at least.

Scared because Navy ranking is so high.

Do not want to loose winning formula, though only 4% FARMs help many.

The combination of AAP center + 4% FARMS means that Navy's great school ratings will remain high no matter what. The principal has ZERO to do with that.

+100

Spring Hill had four principals in the space of five years and they were all dumpster fires.

The Great Schools rating actually went up.

See this is why people want Coch back. He is a known quantity.

I’m excited to get someone new and possibly get the bad teachers out!

There are no truly "bad" teachers at navy. There are a few that are less interactive than others but no terrible ones.

That’s your opinion. We have experienced some really bad teachers.

Which ones? Would like to avoid bad teachers.

I will not name names on this board because I don’t think that’s fair, but there are a few that have been bad. Bad could include: poor communication, poor overall teaching, poor grading. I am excited about a new principal because usually teachers step up their game to impress them.

There are some that are not great but it's possible those will be the ones to leave. However none are truly "bad". If you think that then you are very privileged to have never had a actual bad teacher.

Completely disagree with you. You have no idea what my child’s experience was and don’t know enough to say it was not bad. How dare you.

You seem really worked up. You should just come out and say what this experience is if you want any sympathy. If anything, the majority of the teachers are super patient given the some of the kids they have had to deal with. If I'm annoyed at anyone, it's at some of these parents that send their crappy kids to school that have serious behavioral issues and expect the teachers to deal with it and the rest of the kids to just accept and ignore it.

It's super weird how "fangirl" some Navy moms are. Your school is not the best school. It's okay to admit that it has flaws.

It is true.

Kid flew drone into girls bathroom near 5th grade room months back.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole mess is Coch’s fault. He should have immediately resigned after his sentencing so they could hire someone else. Because he didn’t, they couldn’t release him from his contract legally until June. And they couldn’t list the position until his contract expired. Stop blaming Reid and others for Coch’s actions which caused this mess in the first place. It’s mind boggling how so many people thought he could come back after this.

This. I am shocked that people would him back after this. I don't want my kids thinking it's okay if you drink and drive and damage someone's property (and could have damaged a person if there had been one there) and there are no consequences. It's pretty sick that so many of you think that's an okay lesson to teach your kids.

+1 why is the Navy community (staff and parents) so damn scared of having a new principal? Is it because some of them had an “in” with Coch and got preferential treatment, and are now afraid they won’t have that with the new principal? Maybe the new principal will be even better! And we will all be on equal footing now at least.

Scared because Navy ranking is so high.

Do not want to loose winning formula, though only 4% FARMs help many.

The combination of AAP center + 4% FARMS means that Navy's great school ratings will remain high no matter what. The principal has ZERO to do with that.

+100

Spring Hill had four principals in the space of five years and they were all dumpster fires.

The Great Schools rating actually went up.

See this is why people want Coch back. He is a known quantity.

I’m excited to get someone new and possibly get the bad teachers out!

There are no truly "bad" teachers at navy. There are a few that are less interactive than others but no terrible ones.

That’s your opinion. We have experienced some really bad teachers.

Which ones? Would like to avoid bad teachers.

Oh just stop. Don't name names on here. No one is really that bad.

Obviously they think some are bad.

Been happy with Lee and Workman in the past, loved Simon.