New TJ Lawsuit Filed 3/10/21 by Pacific Legal Foundation

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

Why don't we have them take a test and find out? Oh right, you people are afraid of testing the merits of the kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

That's about 5 or 6 kids in every school. It is very reasonable to think some schools will have 30 kids better than those kids. Academy of Loudoun admissions waitlist is filled with kids from Stone Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

Why don't we have them take a test and find out? Oh right, you people are afraid of testing the merits of the kids.

Good idea. We did it that way for 30 years and had a student body that made it the #1 public high school in America. Seemed to work pretty well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

There are indeed probably dozens of kids at Carson, Cooper and Longfellow stronger than the best students at Holmes, Key, Poe or Whitman, which is precisely why the SJWs on the School Board are dispensing with merit-based admissions to ensure a pork-barrel system of geographic representation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

Why don't we have them take a test and find out? Oh right, you people are afraid of testing the merits of the kids.

Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

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Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

This is just circular reasoning. Declare the testing is a bad measure, and you get to select with racial quotas and declare this is better because the testing has been identified as bad.

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Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

This is just circular reasoning. Declare the testing is a bad measure, and you get to select with racial quotas and declare this is better because the testing has been identified as bad.

It's not me that has identified standardized testing as inadequate. It's the world's top universities, which are essentially businesses tasked with acquiring and nurturing top talent.

If shunning these exams is good enough for Caltech, then it's more than good enough for TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

Why don't we have them take a test and find out? Oh right, you people are afraid of testing the merits of the kids.

Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

What a load of crap. You are so full of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

This is just circular reasoning. Declare the testing is a bad measure, and you get to select with racial quotas and declare this is better because the testing has been identified as bad.

It's not me that has identified standardized testing as inadequate. It's the world's top universities, which are essentially businesses tasked with acquiring and nurturing top talent.

If shunning these exams is good enough for Caltech, then it's more than good enough for TJ.

You are an idiot. Caltech isn't "shunning" it. The put in a Covid moratorium. Just look at their website:

Two-year Moratorium on requirement and consideration of SAT and/or ACT test scores
As of June 2020, Caltech has enacted a two-year moratorium on both the requirement and consideration of SAT and/or ACT test scores as part of the undergraduate admissions process. This change, made in response to the global COVID-19 pandemic and its continuing impact on access to these exams for students across the country and globe, will be in effect for all first-year students applying to Caltech for Fall 2021 and Fall 2022.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

This is just circular reasoning. Declare the testing is a bad measure, and you get to select with racial quotas and declare this is better because the testing has been identified as bad.

It's not me that has identified standardized testing as inadequate. It's the world's top universities, which are essentially businesses tasked with acquiring and nurturing top talent.

If shunning these exams is good enough for Caltech, then it's more than good enough for TJ.

You are an idiot. Caltech isn't "shunning" it. The put in a Covid moratorium. Just look at their website:

Two-year Moratorium on requirement and consideration of SAT and/or ACT test scores
As of June 2020, Caltech has enacted a two-year moratorium on both the requirement and consideration of SAT and/or ACT test scores as part of the undergraduate admissions process. This change, made in response to the global COVID-19 pandemic and its continuing impact on access to these exams for students across the country and globe, will be in effect for all first-year students applying to Caltech for Fall 2021 and Fall 2022.

They won't go back.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

Why don't we have them take a test and find out? Oh right, you people are afraid of testing the merits of the kids.

Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

What a load of crap. You are so full of it.

....okay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

Why don't we have them take a test and find out? Oh right, you people are afraid of testing the merits of the kids.

Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

You talk as if these kids exist in a vacuum and don't interact with anyone else except for their test-taking books. It takes a team effort to educate kids - everyone from parents, teachers, tutors, and yes, even fellow students. This is why some parents make an effort to put their kids into well-performing schools so that they can be among similarly driven-minded peers.

If you know someone who is exceptionally well at working together with others to solve problems, maybe they could solve the problem of their low test scores? Or is that not a problem that they are good at solving?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, this will help you understand how even the poorest of golfers can pass a test to be on the team: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/04/17/asian-americans-hate-speech-crimes-school-admissions-bias-column/7215136002/

And you’re welcome for having your poor golfer story rebuked for its innacuracy.

Really it’s pure racism to try and keep out one race and push another by ending a race neutral test for a rigorous school. At the end of the day, it’s just pure racism. Poor Asians are being held back from advancement because of social engineering do try and ensure equality of outcome. It’s not possible and will result in a watered down curriculum and ultimately in a less qualified work force in the future. Another chapter in the book “freakonimics” could be written about the eventual outcome of these woke policies.

Not sure how you take an opinion piece out of USA Today and somehow think it relates to poor kids having a level playing field for something expensive like golf. But it does appear that you badly missed the point of the post. The poster said no one cares about equity when it comes to the golf team, which was an argument in favor of your point on merit.

Stop, stop. Don't feed the troll! (I mean "idit"). I want to hear about the actual lawsuit. Let's please get back on topic.

Give the poor guy a break. He's probably angry that he wasted thousands of dollars getting TJ test prep for his kid(s) and now they are probably not going to get in despite all the time and money trying to game the system.

I wonder how miffed the SJWs will be when it turns out the less qualified kids they manage to squeeze into TJ dumb the school down and TJ’s reputation will simply be that of another middling FCPS school and not on par with the top neighborhood high schools. Then they’ll have to turn their sights on breaking up Langley, no doubt. It’s the educational equivalent of random looting.

Just.... completely wrong on every level. You can't possibly believe that inviting the top 1.5% from every school (many of whom won't even apply) would somehow dumb down TJ unless you think that literally EVERY kid at most of these schools is less capable than say the 100th most capable kid at Carson or Longfellow.

That point of view would be incredibly myopic at best.

Why don't we have them take a test and find out? Oh right, you people are afraid of testing the merits of the kids.

Because testing tells you who is good at taking tests, not who is good at working together with others to solve problems.

TJ has been recognized as the #1 school in America for several years precisely BECAUSE they have overselected for test-taking ability and because those rankings for many years have been dependent on test scores.

Standardized testing is increasingly recognized as an outdated and outmoded way of measuring a student's ability to contribute to an elite academic environment. Many of the best colleges and universities in the country are running away from them, and that number grows every year.

You talk as if these kids exist in a vacuum and don't interact with anyone else except for their test-taking books. It takes a team effort to educate kids - everyone from parents, teachers, tutors, and yes, even fellow students. This is why some parents make an effort to put their kids into well-performing schools so that they can be among similarly driven-minded peers.

If you know someone who is exceptionally well at working together with others to solve problems, maybe they could solve the problem of their low test scores? Or is that not a problem that they are good at solving?

Thankfully, it's no longer a problem that they need to worry about solving. They can use that time to focus on problems that impact others, or on literally anything else besides putting hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars into a skill that has very limited application outside of an ever-decreasing number of career paths.

[Anonymous]

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It's not me that has identified standardized testing as inadequate. It's the world's top universities, which are essentially businesses tasked with acquiring and nurturing top talent.

If shunning these exams is good enough for Caltech, then it's more than good enough for TJ.

DP. Elite universities can ignore the ACT or SAT, because they have plenty of applicants with extraordinary achievements to select from. ACTs and SATs are meaningless when they get applicants who are Regeneron Science Talent Search Finalists, or kids who make it to the USA Math Olympiad, or any other notable accomplishment. They also frequently ask for things like AMC scores, and they still look at AP exam scores.

I would have no problem with TJ eliminating their entrance exams, providing that they instead looked at Mathcounts placement, AMC 8 scores, AMC 10 scores, Science Olympiad placement, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It's not me that has identified standardized testing as inadequate. It's the world's top universities, which are essentially businesses tasked with acquiring and nurturing top talent.

If shunning these exams is good enough for Caltech, then it's more than good enough for TJ.

DP. Elite universities can ignore the ACT or SAT, because they have plenty of applicants with extraordinary achievements to select from. ACTs and SATs are meaningless when they get applicants who are Regeneron Science Talent Search Finalists, or kids who make it to the USA Math Olympiad, or any other notable accomplishment. They also frequently ask for things like AMC scores, and they still look at AP exam scores.

I would have no problem with TJ eliminating their entrance exams, providing that they instead looked at Mathcounts placement, AMC 8 scores, AMC 10 scores, Science Olympiad placement, etc.

Why? Not everyone has the same extracurricular opportunities or desires. Why look at things like science Olympiad placement when 1) not all teams are treated the same or perform the same, and 2) not all students who would be interested or willing to participate are able to due to family constraints?