Bafta awards controversy

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Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol


Watch the movie.


The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting.


Okay sure. But what would you do if it was your daughter or son with this disorder and they were the ones yelling out obscenities and socially inappropriate things. What if was them having involuntary movement tics and knocking things? What if it was your child saying those words to others? Would you just be disgusted by them and keep them home? How would you protect their siblings? What would you do with your uncivlized child? Picture your kids - where would you send them away to to ensure they didn't bother anyone?



DP: If it were my kid, I would teach them to be very quick and very good at apologizing, and working on empathy would be ongoing— because I would want them to be able to have the option of successfully navigating societal interactions with other people. It’s a given that in light of the disorder, they are going to bother and possibly disgust other people. I’d want them to have the best possible chance to interact positively with peers and the wider community. Social skills would also increase their safety .

It’s wild how many comments here are saying things like: you want to send them away. Nope. I’d want to teach them social skills and empathy to keep from sending them away. There is a middle ground — and it includes taking responsibility for the impact of one’s behavior on others.



I think your view that he doesn't have empathy would be changed by seeing the movie. And that people with coprolalia don't have teachable social skills. Or that he hasn't tried therapies, groups, medications, adaptive equipment etc.

He doesn’t have empathy if he can’t issue a clear public apology for the harm his words caused. He can’t control what comes out of his mouth, but he does control how he handles the aftermath.


I would like to think that adults who can understand the difference between a racist person using the word and how that impacts and a black person using the word and how that impacts can also understand the difference when its a person involuntarily vocalizes the word with no intent or direction due to a disability and how that impacts or Japanese person saying the word because it means someting else in Japanese and how that impacts. I actually find it quite shocking that so many are saying they are incapable of differentiating between these. The idea that the impact and the harm is the same regardless of intent isn't true at all - as people do not react this way to a black person saying the word. If nothing mattered other than impact and it simply the sound of the two syllables that causes irreparable harm and trauma - then it would be the same if a black person said it. Since it doesn't, it does mean that people are capable of understanding context and intent and are just choosing not to in this scenario. So directing all his anger and hate at him seems pretty performative to me.



Well you can be a racist AND have coprolalia. It doesn’t automatically mean you are a perfect person if you have coprolalia. Not apologizing to the black presenters sure makes the probability higher.
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Anonymous wrote:I dont think the man should apologize. Im sure his entire life has been constant apologies for his involuntary behavior.


So, after an “entire life “ of “constant apologies for his involuntary behavior” why don’t you think this particular incident— which was very public — warrants an apology too?

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Anonymous wrote:I dont think the man should apologize. Im sure his entire life has been constant apologies for his involuntary behavior.


So, after an “entire life “ of “constant apologies for his involuntary behavior” why don’t you think this particular incident— which was very public — warrants an apology too?



Apparently people on Twitter who have met John have said he immediately apologized to them after shouting obscenities. I guess we draw a line in the sand for Black people though.
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Anonymous wrote:I dont think the man should apologize. Im sure his entire life has been constant apologies for his involuntary behavior.


So, after an “entire life “ of “constant apologies for his involuntary behavior” why don’t you think this particular incident— which was very public — warrants an apology too?



He has spoken to them privately.
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Anonymous wrote:I dont think the man should apologize. Im sure his entire life has been constant apologies for his involuntary behavior.


So, after an “entire life “ of “constant apologies for his involuntary behavior” why don’t you think this particular incident— which was very public — warrants an apology too?



He has spoken to them privately.


Are you his publicist? This solves nothing.What a big mess he's made. For what?
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Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/john-davidson-tourettes-tics-bafta-n-word-interview-1236671850/

John responds. I hesitate to post it as it may just direct more hate his way but I believe he has a right to have a voice and an opinion about his own experience.


My dude takes yet another opportunity to plug his project, to blame microphone placement, and then to plug his project some more.

Meanwhile, in the ENTIRE interview, here is the sum total of what he has to say about his use of a vicious racial slur: "The N-word was one of these, and I completely understand its significance in history and in the modern world..."

Note what is missing from this. We get hundreds of words about how hard his life is and how we should watch his film, and not one single word about the impact of his words on those who were targeted.
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Anonymous wrote:I dont think the man should apologize. Im sure his entire life has been constant apologies for his involuntary behavior.


So, after an “entire life “ of “constant apologies for his involuntary behavior” why don’t you think this particular incident— which was very public — warrants an apology too?



He has spoken to them privately.


We also have no idea whether that happened. The Variety article says he people reached out to the Sinners team, but not whether contact was made, nor whether he spoke with anyone.

Moreover, we have two statements from him already and neither shows any understanding or empathy for anyone but himself. Even if he had spoken with them (which again we do not know happened), the track record suggests it was not meaningful.
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Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/john-davidson-tourettes-tics-bafta-n-word-interview-1236671850/

John responds. I hesitate to post it as it may just direct more hate his way but I believe he has a right to have a voice and an opinion about his own experience.


My dude takes yet another opportunity to plug his project, to blame microphone placement, and then to plug his project some more.

Meanwhile, in the ENTIRE interview, here is the sum total of what he has to say about his use of a vicious racial slur: "The N-word was one of these, and I completely understand its significance in history and in the modern world..."

Note what is missing from this. We get hundreds of words about how hard his life is and how we should watch his film, and not one single word about the impact of his words on those who were targeted.


Have the people offended suggested that they understand that this was involuntary and not meant? I haven't seen that either. They seem to just want to reflexively call him a racist and a jerk then demand he apologize.
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Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/john-davidson-tourettes-tics-bafta-n-word-interview-1236671850/

John responds. I hesitate to post it as it may just direct more hate his way but I believe he has a right to have a voice and an opinion about his own experience.


My dude takes yet another opportunity to plug his project, to blame microphone placement, and then to plug his project some more.

Meanwhile, in the ENTIRE interview, here is the sum total of what he has to say about his use of a vicious racial slur: "The N-word was one of these, and I completely understand its significance in history and in the modern world..."

Note what is missing from this. We get hundreds of words about how hard his life is and how we should watch his film, and not one single word about the impact of his words on those who were targeted.


Have the people offended suggested that they understand that this was involuntary and not meant? I haven't seen that either. They seem to just want to reflexively call him a racist and a jerk then demand he apologize.


Even if it was not meant, he has the opportunity here to show grace and engage in education by making it clear that he understands how his unvoluntary utterance impacted actual human beings.

No one is saying he did it on purpose. We are saying his constant self-centering rather than demonstrations of empathy are off-putting.
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Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/john-davidson-tourettes-tics-bafta-n-word-interview-1236671850/

John responds. I hesitate to post it as it may just direct more hate his way but I believe he has a right to have a voice and an opinion about his own experience.


My dude takes yet another opportunity to plug his project, to blame microphone placement, and then to plug his project some more.

Meanwhile, in the ENTIRE interview, here is the sum total of what he has to say about his use of a vicious racial slur: "The N-word was one of these, and I completely understand its significance in history and in the modern world..."

Note what is missing from this. We get hundreds of words about how hard his life is and how we should watch his film, and not one single word about the impact of his words on those who were targeted.


Have the people offended suggested that they understand that this was involuntary and not meant? I haven't seen that either. They seem to just want to reflexively call him a racist and a jerk then demand he apologize.


Even if it was not meant, he has the opportunity here to show grace and engage in education by making it clear that he understands how his unvoluntary utterance impacted actual human beings.

No one is saying he did it on purpose. We are saying his constant self-centering rather than demonstrations of empathy are off-putting.


Engage in educational by people who couldn't be bothered to watch his movie? Clearly they don't want to learn.
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Anonymous wrote:https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/john-davidson-tourettes-tics-bafta-n-word-interview-1236671850/

John responds. I hesitate to post it as it may just direct more hate his way but I believe he has a right to have a voice and an opinion about his own experience.


My dude takes yet another opportunity to plug his project, to blame microphone placement, and then to plug his project some more.

Meanwhile, in the ENTIRE interview, here is the sum total of what he has to say about his use of a vicious racial slur: "The N-word was one of these, and I completely understand its significance in history and in the modern world..."

Note what is missing from this. We get hundreds of words about how hard his life is and how we should watch his film, and not one single word about the impact of his words on those who were targeted.


Have the people offended suggested that they understand that this was involuntary and not meant? I haven't seen that either. They seem to just want to reflexively call him a racist and a jerk then demand he apologize.


Even if it was not meant, he has the opportunity here to show grace and engage in education by making it clear that he understands how his unvoluntary utterance impacted actual human beings.

No one is saying he did it on purpose. We are saying his constant self-centering rather than demonstrations of empathy are off-putting.


The people could have said " we understand that his disability...... but we are still offended " but of course they didn't. That is similarly off putting. I don't think these people are going to see eye to eye so why bother?
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The actors haven't said they were harmed. They haven't required an apology, they aren't trying to make this somethign it isn't.

I am sure it was a shock and unsettling at first but I have confidence that once it was explained to them and maybe they even watched the movie that they understand context. Likely they have heard the word within the black community many times so they aren't harmed just by hearing it, and they understand that in this case it was also said without racist intent or belief or meaning.

There are also black men with coprolalia. They also vocalize socialize socially inappropriate words about the people around them. So whatever you are saying about John you are also saying about everyone else with coprolalia. Should scorn, ridicule and hate and anger also be heaped upon the black man who doesn't make a heartfelt apology after any vocalization about a woman or a Latino or x, y, or z. Should we also show him zero grace, zero kindness, zero understanding?
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“ What’s really happening right now is not about Tourette’s. This ain’t about a neurological tic. It’s about protecting whiteness. It’s about what jumps into formation the second whiteness feels exposed. What we’re witnessing is the full machinery revving up. The sympathy. The soft language. The “let’s be fair.” The calls for compassion. The think pieces. The tone policing. The accusations of ableism. All to make sure the spotlight moves off the rot and back onto our reaction.

Because the real crisis, in their eyes, isn’t that the word came out of that white man’s mouth three times in the same night. It’s that we’re refusing to pretend like it didn’t mean anything. That’s what they’re protecting. Not a diagnosis. A narrative. The narrative that racism is rare. That it is located elsewhere in something more extreme. That it is accidental. A glitch. Not a feature and not part of who they are.”

https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/#comments

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Anonymous wrote:“ What’s really happening right now is not about Tourette’s. This ain’t about a neurological tic. It’s about protecting whiteness. It’s about what jumps into formation the second whiteness feels exposed. What we’re witnessing is the full machinery revving up. The sympathy. The soft language. The “let’s be fair.” The calls for compassion. The think pieces. The tone policing. The accusations of ableism. All to make sure the spotlight moves off the rot and back onto our reaction.

Because the real crisis, in their eyes, isn’t that the word came out of that white man’s mouth three times in the same night. It’s that we’re refusing to pretend like it didn’t mean anything. That’s what they’re protecting. Not a diagnosis. A narrative. The narrative that racism is rare. That it is located elsewhere in something more extreme. That it is accidental. A glitch. Not a feature and not part of who they are.”

https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/#comments




Nailed it!

Thank you for posting this — and including the link with the full article.


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Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol


Watch the movie.


The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting.


Okay sure. But what would you do if it was your daughter or son with this disorder and they were the ones yelling out obscenities and socially inappropriate things. What if was them having involuntary movement tics and knocking things? What if it was your child saying those words to others? Would you just be disgusted by them and keep them home? How would you protect their siblings? What would you do with your uncivlized child? Picture your kids - where would you send them away to to ensure they didn't bother anyone?

Omg I’d love them and get them all the help I could, and I ALSO wouldn’t bring them to a funeral of a young child knowing that they would probably involuntarily yell out horrific things about the deceased and add layers of grief to the mourners. For one extreme example. There is a middle ground between “they belong in every environment and people have to deal!” And “lock them in a padded room”


Yes, there is. So where do you think an awards show for a movie about his life would fall on your spectrum?


The movie about his life, believe it or not, was NOT the only film being honored there. And if I’m not mistaken , he was not acting in the film nor was he directing the film. Right? So he was the subject of a film. He is not the star of the BAFTAs. So in my hypothetical, yeah, I’d encourage my child to sit that one out in the lobby of the venue. Now if he was receiving a lifetime achievement award from the BAFTAs and was literally the guest of honor getting the most prestigious award then I’d feel differently. But he was not!


So you think being the subject of a film is...not a big deal? I guess you know a lot more important people than I do. Because in my world, having a film made about your and your disability would be a pretty big deal.


Let me repeat- he was not at the ceremony because he had been nominated for an award. It was not a ceremony honoring him. I did not say it was not a big deal to have a film made about you. I said this was not HIS AWARD CEREMONY. He was not being honored with an award. So no, he did not need to attend if his tic was going to unfortunately ruin the evening for the actual award nominees. This falls in the category, for me personally, of something I would keep my hypothetical Tourette’s child home from.


I hate to bother you with the pesky facts, but the actors on stage were presenting at the time, not winning an award. But you're still standing by that presenting an award should be a bigger deal then having a movie made about you?
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