Disclosing atheism

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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


Wishful thinking:

- Wishing people could say they were atheists without people thinking they were the devil incarnate.
- Wishing atheists weren't afraid of offending people just because of their lack of religious beliefs.
- Wishing people wouldn't bring up religion as if it's something everyone practices - or should practice.
- Wishing for the end of invocations that invoke a invisible supernatural being, assuming that's a good thing and everyone present should bow their head as if they believe in a God.
- Wishing for Humanist prayers along with prayers from representatives of multiple religions who don't believe the same things, but all believe in a God.

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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You think the Supreme Court and politicians’ positions on abortion, reproductive rights, homosexuality, marriage, etc.. aren’t driven by religion?? That’s an interesting take…
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


Maybe to people of a particular religious bent, these things just seem intuitively correct and not like a religious imposition.
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


book banning? You can buy any book you want on amazon.com. Tell me the title of what books the “religious” government has banned and you are unable to purchase and read.

anti-lgbtq? What has the “religious” government done to be considered anti-lgbtqa? Examples?


So because the SCOTUS allowed states to make their own decisions about abortion laws- your right to what has been taken away? What has the “religious” government done besides allowed each state to decide their own laws? Examples?

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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


book banning? You can buy any book you want on amazon.com. Tell me the title of what books the “religious” government has banned and you are unable to purchase and read.

anti-lgbtq? What has the “religious” government done to be considered anti-lgbtqa? Examples?


So because the SCOTUS allowed states to make their own decisions about abortion laws- your right to what has been taken away? What has the “religious” government done besides allowed each state to decide their own laws? Examples?




Just taking the abortion ruling of the Court. The majority of Americans believe abortion should be available for all women. That was the established practice in the United States. The Justices even said in confirmation hearings they believed that should continue to be the law of the land. When a case came to them on the court, they reversed precedent of the Court (against the wishes of the American public). The conservatives on the Court have been clear about their own beliefs on abortion and how they have been informed by their catholic faith. If you don’t see that as an example of imposing religious views on an unwilling majority, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


book banning? You can buy any book you want on amazon.com. Tell me the title of what books the “religious” government has banned and you are unable to purchase and read.

anti-lgbtq? What has the “religious” government done to be considered anti-lgbtqa? Examples?


So because the SCOTUS allowed states to make their own decisions about abortion laws- your right to what has been taken away? What has the “religious” government done besides allowed each state to decide their own laws? Examples?




Just taking the abortion ruling of the Court. The majority of Americans believe abortion should be available for all women. That was the established practice in the United States. The Justices even said in confirmation hearings they believed that should continue to be the law of the land. When a case came to them on the court, they reversed precedent of the Court (against the wishes of the American public). The conservatives on the Court have been clear about their own beliefs on abortion and how they have been informed by their catholic faith. If you don’t see that as an example of imposing religious views on an unwilling majority, I don’t know what to tell you.


Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, No. 19-1392, 597 U.S. ___ (2022), is a decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to individual states the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal law.

The majority held that abortion is not a constitutional right as the Constitution does not mention it and its substantive right was not "deeply rooted" in the country's history.

Abortion is not listed in the Constitution as a protected right.

In the introductory statement, Alito, writing for the majority, summarized a constitutional historical view of abortion rights, saying, "The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision." Alito based his argument on the criterion from Washington v. Glucksberg (1997) that a right must be "deeply rooted" in the nation's history.

That provision [the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment] has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition" and "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty."

— Dobbs, slip opinion p. 5 (Opinion of the Court)[146]

Alito wrote, "abortion couldn't be constitutionally protected. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy." He wrote, "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women%27s_Health_Organization

The overturning of Roe did not make abortion illegal nationwide. Abortion remains legal in most states.

In response to Dobbs, several states allowing abortion considered or adopted legislation expanding abortion access.


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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


book banning? You can buy any book you want on amazon.com. Tell me the title of what books the “religious” government has banned and you are unable to purchase and read.

anti-lgbtq? What has the “religious” government done to be considered anti-lgbtqa? Examples?


So because the SCOTUS allowed states to make their own decisions about abortion laws- your right to what has been taken away? What has the “religious” government done besides allowed each state to decide their own laws? Examples?




Just taking the abortion ruling of the Court. The majority of Americans believe abortion should be available for all women. That was the established practice in the United States. The Justices even said in confirmation hearings they believed that should continue to be the law of the land. When a case came to them on the court, they reversed precedent of the Court (against the wishes of the American public). The conservatives on the Court have been clear about their own beliefs on abortion and how they have been informed by their catholic faith. If you don’t see that as an example of imposing religious views on an unwilling majority, I don’t know what to tell you.


Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, No. 19-1392, 597 U.S. ___ (2022), is a decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to individual states the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal law.

The majority held that abortion is not a constitutional right as the Constitution does not mention it and its substantive right was not "deeply rooted" in the country's history.

Abortion is not listed in the Constitution as a protected right.

In the introductory statement, Alito, writing for the majority, summarized a constitutional historical view of abortion rights, saying, "The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision." Alito based his argument on the criterion from Washington v. Glucksberg (1997) that a right must be "deeply rooted" in the nation's history.

That provision [the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment] has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition" and "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty."

— Dobbs, slip opinion p. 5 (Opinion of the Court)[146]

Alito wrote, "abortion couldn't be constitutionally protected. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy." He wrote, "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women%27s_Health_Organization

The overturning of Roe did not make abortion illegal nationwide. Abortion remains legal in most states.

In response to Dobbs, several states allowing abortion considered or adopted legislation expanding abortion access.




Every women deserves the right to privacy/bodily autonomy. It’s a shame your religion is hell bent on taking away women’s rights.

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waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


book banning? You can buy any book you want on amazon.com. Tell me the title of what books the “religious” government has banned and you are unable to purchase and read.

anti-lgbtq? What has the “religious” government done to be considered anti-lgbtqa? Examples?


So because the SCOTUS allowed states to make their own decisions about abortion laws- your right to what has been taken away? What has the “religious” government done besides allowed each state to decide their own laws? Examples?




Just taking the abortion ruling of the Court. The majority of Americans believe abortion should be available for all women. That was the established practice in the United States. The Justices even said in confirmation hearings they believed that should continue to be the law of the land. When a case came to them on the court, they reversed precedent of the Court (against the wishes of the American public). The conservatives on the Court have been clear about their own beliefs on abortion and how they have been informed by their catholic faith. If you don’t see that as an example of imposing religious views on an unwilling majority, I don’t know what to tell you.


Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, No. 19-1392, 597 U.S. ___ (2022), is a decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to individual states the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal law.

The majority held that abortion is not a constitutional right as the Constitution does not mention it and its substantive right was not "deeply rooted" in the country's history.

Abortion is not listed in the Constitution as a protected right.

In the introductory statement, Alito, writing for the majority, summarized a constitutional historical view of abortion rights, saying, "The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision." Alito based his argument on the criterion from Washington v. Glucksberg (1997) that a right must be "deeply rooted" in the nation's history.

That provision [the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment] has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition" and "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty."

— Dobbs, slip opinion p. 5 (Opinion of the Court)[146]

Alito wrote, "abortion couldn't be constitutionally protected. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy." He wrote, "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women%27s_Health_Organization

The overturning of Roe did not make abortion illegal nationwide. Abortion remains legal in most states.

In response to Dobbs, several states allowing abortion considered or adopted legislation expanding abortion access.




Every women deserves the right to privacy/bodily autonomy. It’s a shame your religion is hell bent on taking away women’s rights.



All stupid lies- just like religion is “banning books.” You are wrong because neither of those things are happening. You can’t even address the legal points- just spew lies.
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


book banning? You can buy any book you want on amazon.com. Tell me the title of what books the “religious” government has banned and you are unable to purchase and read.

anti-lgbtq? What has the “religious” government done to be considered anti-lgbtqa? Examples?


So because the SCOTUS allowed states to make their own decisions about abortion laws- your right to what has been taken away? What has the “religious” government done besides allowed each state to decide their own laws? Examples?




Just taking the abortion ruling of the Court. The majority of Americans believe abortion should be available for all women. That was the established practice in the United States. The Justices even said in confirmation hearings they believed that should continue to be the law of the land. When a case came to them on the court, they reversed precedent of the Court (against the wishes of the American public). The conservatives on the Court have been clear about their own beliefs on abortion and how they have been informed by their catholic faith. If you don’t see that as an example of imposing religious views on an unwilling majority, I don’t know what to tell you.


Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, No. 19-1392, 597 U.S. ___ (2022), is a decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to individual states the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal law.

The majority held that abortion is not a constitutional right as the Constitution does not mention it and its substantive right was not "deeply rooted" in the country's history.

Abortion is not listed in the Constitution as a protected right.

In the introductory statement, Alito, writing for the majority, summarized a constitutional historical view of abortion rights, saying, "The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision." Alito based his argument on the criterion from Washington v. Glucksberg (1997) that a right must be "deeply rooted" in the nation's history.

That provision [the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment] has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition" and "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty."

— Dobbs, slip opinion p. 5 (Opinion of the Court)[146]

Alito wrote, "abortion couldn't be constitutionally protected. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy." He wrote, "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women%27s_Health_Organization

The overturning of Roe did not make abortion illegal nationwide. Abortion remains legal in most states.

In response to Dobbs, several states allowing abortion considered or adopted legislation expanding abortion access.




Every women deserves the right to privacy/bodily autonomy. It’s a shame your religion is hell bent on taking away women’s rights.



All stupid lies- just like religion is “banning books.” You are wrong because neither of those things are happening. You can’t even address the legal points- just spew lies.


Abortion is banned in some states in the US. Because the religious nutters forced their beliefs on the rest of us.
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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?


I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.
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Anonymous wrote:I just say I’m not religious

As do I. People usually just interpret that as I don’t go to church vs. I don’t believe in a higher power. Or I say I was raised Catholic (true) but don’t expand. I think atheism is like the last taboo thing in the US. I think it’s changing as young people distance themselves from religion.


More taboo than, say, BDSM, being either progressive or MAGA in the wrong crowd, or talking about your STD in public? The victimhood is strong.

Victimhood? I said taboo lady. I don’t see myself as victim. But surveys have shown that Americans (not the younger ones) don’t look too kindly on atheists. I don’t think I’m going to be persecuted but I just don’t want to deal with the follow up questions/assumptions of saying I’m an atheist. I also don’t feel the need to debate people on their beliefs. Btw no one plays the victim hood card harder than extreme (notice I didn’t say all) Christians in this country who think Muslims are taking over/Christmas is being stolen/whatever else FOX/OAN tells them.


I see your point, but wish you would occasionally experiment with using the term atheist to describe yourself. Maybe you could think of a stock reply to any question. And no one ever has to debate others about their atheism. You could just say you don't want to discuss it further, and change the subject.

Also, could be that some people who want to talk, are on the road to non-belief themselves and are fascinated to meet someone who has already completed the journey.


The wishful thinking among you atheists constantly astonishes me.


I wish religious people would keep their religion out of my government, out of my life, and out of my body.

How’s that for wishful thinking?


people elected to public office are allowed to be religious. In fact- the vast majority of elected officials claim to be Christian and speak about their faith.

How is your life affected by religion?


It goes way beyond politicians practicing their own religion. Politicians (and SCOTUS justices) are FORCING their religious beliefs on others.


How? You keep saying they are forcing religion on people but have zero examples.


You don't read the news?

abortion
anti-LGBTQ
book banning
etc


book banning? You can buy any book you want on amazon.com. Tell me the title of what books the “religious” government has banned and you are unable to purchase and read.

anti-lgbtq? What has the “religious” government done to be considered anti-lgbtqa? Examples?


So because the SCOTUS allowed states to make their own decisions about abortion laws- your right to what has been taken away? What has the “religious” government done besides allowed each state to decide their own laws? Examples?




Just taking the abortion ruling of the Court. The majority of Americans believe abortion should be available for all women. That was the established practice in the United States. The Justices even said in confirmation hearings they believed that should continue to be the law of the land. When a case came to them on the court, they reversed precedent of the Court (against the wishes of the American public). The conservatives on the Court have been clear about their own beliefs on abortion and how they have been informed by their catholic faith. If you don’t see that as an example of imposing religious views on an unwilling majority, I don’t know what to tell you.


Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, No. 19-1392, 597 U.S. ___ (2022), is a decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to individual states the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal law.

The majority held that abortion is not a constitutional right as the Constitution does not mention it and its substantive right was not "deeply rooted" in the country's history.

Abortion is not listed in the Constitution as a protected right.

In the introductory statement, Alito, writing for the majority, summarized a constitutional historical view of abortion rights, saying, "The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision." Alito based his argument on the criterion from Washington v. Glucksberg (1997) that a right must be "deeply rooted" in the nation's history.

That provision [the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment] has been held to guarantee some rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition" and "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty."

— Dobbs, slip opinion p. 5 (Opinion of the Court)[146]

Alito wrote, "abortion couldn't be constitutionally protected. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy." He wrote, "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women%27s_Health_Organization

The overturning of Roe did not make abortion illegal nationwide. Abortion remains legal in most states.

In response to Dobbs, several states allowing abortion considered or adopted legislation expanding abortion access.




Every women deserves the right to privacy/bodily autonomy. It’s a shame your religion is hell bent on taking away women’s rights.



All stupid lies- just like religion is “banning books.” You are wrong because neither of those things are happening. You can’t even address the legal points- just spew lies.


Abortion is banned in some states in the US. Because the religious nutters forced their beliefs on the rest of us.


States are allowed to make their own laws. There is nothing nutty about that.

People are not “nutters” if they think that abortion is not right because it kills an unborn baby. That’s a completely sane and valid opinion to have.

I know many people who are not religious at all that think abortion is wrong. They say that they don’t need religion or God to guide their opinion/moral choices.

I think the pp claiming that religious people are “banning books” is nutty. That’s completely false.



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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?


I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.


you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.
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