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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

PS. Even Trump casts himself as a victim a lot. In that case and probably many others, it ignores actual facts to make a manipulative ploy for sympathy.

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

You think the atheist haters are professional victims?

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

You think the atheist haters are professional victims?

Was referring to DCUM’s professional atheist victims.

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

When I moved into my new neighborhood 2 years ago, I was outside with my kids meeting some neighbors and one asked me, "Are you Christian folks?" We are not. We're Jewish, and I said so, and the whole exchange felt very uncomfortable and, honestly, potentially dangerous. Turns out this neighbor has some mental health issues. But the question was still asked. These conversations happen in real life.

How awful. Even when I qualified as "Christian folk" I would have been appalled by this approach. So exclusionary. It's a relief to hear, though, that the neighbor had some mental health issues, as my first thought would have been "Are you Crazy??"

Yes, I got to know some of the other neighbors better after a few months and ended up asking if he was someone I needed to be worried about. They all said he's harmless He occasionally goes off his meds and gets a little loud (mostly singing classic rock songs in his driveway) and socially unfiltered, but he's never been violent.

I wonder if you live in my neighborhood. We have a neighbor just like that, too. He goes off his meds and walks around in his driveway yelling about Jesus. Everyone seems to think we should just let it be since he's "harmless," but it's pretty uncomfortable to have an insane person a few houses down shouting about Jews, when we are Jewish and I have a child who plays outside. I no longer put up a menorah at holiday time, and it just feels very wrong to me that we need to be afraid like this.

My reactions:
Something should be done about the guy. He may be not cause any physical harm, but he's disturbing the peace.

You don't need to be afraid. That's a choice. If I were you, I'd put the menorah back up.

If it's my neighborhood, the police seem to be aware of him. Sometimes he gets noise complaints called on him and the police show up to talk to him. Sometimes neighbors just ask him politely to keep it quieter, especially when it's naptime or bedtime for their kids. He seems to be responsive when people are direct with him, but maybe just doesn't recognize that his behavior is disruptive or unsettling on his own.

And yes, my kids would love to see some other Hanukkah decorations sprinkled in with all the Christmas stuff. Obviously, do what makes you comfortable.

Not the same neighborhood then, I think. The police have been called a couple of times here, but they have never shown up, and I'm pretty sure no one in the neighborhood has talked to the man directly. He's pretty scary - not a person you would approach during one of his episodes, and clearly not in a frame of mind to be reasoned with.

Why don’t the police show up?

Does he live alone?

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

You think the atheist haters are professional victims?

Yes, but that's just a part of their victimization. They also are very worried (and rightly so) that the world is becoming less religious. They fear they will be shunned in such a society, just as they shun atheists now.

Nothing to worry about really. If the society changes to that degree, there will still be religious communities. The US will still be a free country.

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

You think the atheist haters are professional victims?

Yes, but that's just a part of their victimization. They also are very worried (and rightly so) that the world is becoming less religious. They fear they will be shunned in such a society, just as they shun atheists now.

Nothing to worry about really. If the society changes to that degree, there will still be religious communities. The US will still be a free country.

^^ just to be clear, this poster isn’t me, the +2 poster. The last two posters have twisted my point to turn it on its head.

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

You think the atheist haters are professional victims?

Maybe some of them, but probably many are just going along with what's considered acceptable in society. Remember when gay people were treated the same way? and interracial marriage, too? It wasn't that long ago.

It takes time for things to change. The more people who are engaging in the formerly taboo activity (e.g., coming out as gay, dating people of another race), the more it is perceived as normal and is accepted by people in the society who don't engage in those activities themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

You think the atheist haters are professional victims?

Yes, but that's just a part of their victimization. They also are very worried (and rightly so) that the world is becoming less religious. They fear they will be shunned in such a society, just as they shun atheists now.

Nothing to worry about really. If the society changes to that degree, there will still be religious communities. The US will still be a free country.

^^ just to be clear, this poster isn’t me, the +2 poster. The last two posters have twisted my point to turn it on its head.

I'm so confused. The thread seemed to start off as a pretty straightforward request for examples of how atheists handle being asked about their religion. It appears that it is a common enough question that lots of people chimed in with their different experiences of being asked, and how they respond. There were some disagreements among atheists about whether to hem and haw about their atheism or state it proudly, mostly seeming to boil down to an argument on one hand of not rocking the boat (i.e. just say you're not religious) and an argument on the other hand for normalizing it (i.e. tell people you're atheist so that it becomes a more accepted thing in society). Then a person of faith jumped in to suggest that atheists wouldn't be so disliked if they didn't belittle religious people, and now here we are 37 pages later talking about victimization. You guys, DCUM always offers such a wild ride!

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Anonymous wrote:waiting for pp who claimed religious people have done things to affect their life to give examples…I suspect there will be no examples. The same way atheists who claim they have been attacked by religious people but don’t detail any attacks other than being asked to church by neighbors or going to youth group as a child with a classmate. Or a new neighbor asking: “What is your faith?” Which is a very ridiculous claim- nobody says “what is your faith?” That’s so embarrassingly fake the op should be ashamed! Take a creative writing class, anti-theist op.

It’s also odd and fake that children (now adults posting here) were raised in atheist families but their parents didn’t help them cope with the outside world or stop supposed religious attacks on their atheist children. So your atheist parents just let everyone attack you as a kid and never intervened or told you to speak up and tell them if an adult or another child was attacking you? Fake! If your parents let you be attacked and did nothing- they were either negligent and uncaring jerks, or you are making crap up. You spent your childhood sad and anxious and depressed because religious people were mean to you. You are now an adult with anxiety and depression because of the treatment- what did your parents do? Ignore you and your emotional and mental needs your entire childhood? Allow adults to badger and harass you, allow other kids to bully you?

I was attacked by evangelical family member when I was a kid. I’ve given details before.

Religious nutters have taken away my bodily autonomy. And they are trying to take away transgender rights as we speak.

you have not given details of your attack by an evangelical family member before. You just say that so you don’t ever have
to give details. Of course- your parents let your family member attack you and did nothing. They let their kid be attacked and completely were ok with it.

You have problems. Big ones.

My parents weren’t aware it was happening at the time. I can dig up the link if you want.

My only problems are the religious nutters trying to force their beliefs on me.

Your mom went out of town and a family who graciously looked after you wouldn’t leave you home alone while they looked after you. Your mom was lucky they took good care of her ungrateful teenager. You were not abused by anyone and have grown up into a bratty and delusional adult.

WTF are you talking about?

It was at a large family event. My parents were mingling with other people at the time.

You might want to provide the timestamp for your comment on the linked thread. Looks like PP is assuming you're the OP in that one.

That thread is hilarious. An adult atheist was taken in and cared for and fed for multiple days for free by a family who regularly attended church. Op stated her mom (no mention of dad) went out of town somewhere, no details about mom leaving for days-just that this family agreed to watch her.

Op had to attend church services/youth group with the family watching her. DESPITE her MOTHER arranging specifically for adults to care for her daughter and her mother not leaving her daughter alone, many atheists and anti-theists posted op should have been left alone at her host’s home. (Which would not be what her mother wanted, btw.)

Op is still traumatized and upset her mom let a Christian family care for her. Never mind a family took her in as her mother needed, fed and sheltered her, looked to her safety. Atheist pp discards all that and is still upset the family took her to their church.

So another pp was at a large family gathering and a relative told her she was “going to hell.” Mom and Dad of course were not around and pp didn’t tell them she was attacked verbally and condemned to hell by a family member. The atheist people posting here never told their parents about these condemnations to burn in hell, why not? You’d think if an adult at a family gathering went off on a kid and condemned them loudly to burn in hell some other adults would hear the conversation and step in, comfort the child, tell the parents, or all 3. Now pp is claiming all the adults at a large family gathering ignored a male family member yelling that a child would be condemned to hell and/or burn in hell. Really? Nobody would notice that and say anything?

That just doesn’t seem real to me. That sounds as fake as the op who said her new neighbor came to dinner and asked her “what her faith is.” Again: hello, new neighbor, good to meet you. Sure do miss my church. Anyway-what is your FAITH?” is another made up atheist troll situation.

I do believe the atheist who was dumped off on a religious family by her mom and is still traumatized by it years later is real. She doesn’t have self-awareness to realize the family that took her in only did it because they were religious and their beliefs to help and care for others were the reason they helped her and her mom. Note no atheist or anti-theist family watched her for free for days while she sulked and pouted and took up space in their home.

Yeah- the atheist whose mom needed child care and just coincidentally a religious family took her in lacks any sense of perspective or understanding of the years ago situation and is still posting about it decades later. I would hazard a guess she has never taken a kid in to provide child care when a friend or acquaintance has been in need.

NP. OP started another thread a year or so ago about the horrors of her parents leaving her with a Christian family who fed and clothed her, but undid it all by taking her to youth group instead of leaving her alone in a strange house.

Thank goodness not all atheists are drama queens with victim mentalities.

Hello, OP -- if you're still listening, thanks for starting this thread, which has been a long, winding and overall fruitful discussion among non-believers and believers.

You really fell for atheist fan fiction about being asked (and I quote) “what’s your faith?”

WTF is your problem? DP and I have been asked that many times. Even though I am atheist I don’t think it is that unusual a question in society, although I would certainly prefer that it were.

It’s the responses that matter and they vary, which is why I often say “I was raised catholic”, which when I think about it I shouldn’t have to. But it is what it is.

I live in a very urbane northeast area also, so it is not strictly a Bible Belt thing.

I don’t have a problem- but people who post fake stories certainly do.

Nobody has ever asked if I am religious or attend church. Nobody has asked me what religion I follow or what my religious faith is.

So in your daily life, you get asked repeatedly what your faith is? I don’t believe that at all. It is not a common question to ask an acquaintance what their religion is, what their salary is, or what their political views are. It’s absolutely bunk to pretend otherwise. Another multi -page fake story thread.

+1. Nobody has ever asked me, ever. Nobody talks about their faith either. I work at a very progressive organization. I suspect my boss is Christian because he brought in sweets the day before Lent, but he's never ever talked about it.

anyone who claims they are asked what religion they are is lying.

What makes you think every single one of these examples is a lie?

It's all a vast conspiracy theory.

And a great way to get attention

+2. Casting yourself as a victim is a psychological issue, but it’s common across so many groups—the aggrieved Christmas is cancelled folks, white men, and so many others. This when there are so many real victims of systemic racism etc.

I’m not sure what professional victims get out of it. Maybe a sense of identity. An excuse for their own shortcomings (look over here!). Attention for sure.

You think the atheist haters are professional victims?

Yes, but that's just a part of their victimization. They also are very worried (and rightly so) that the world is becoming less religious. They fear they will be shunned in such a society, just as they shun atheists now.

Nothing to worry about really. If the society changes to that degree, there will still be religious communities. The US will still be a free country.

^^ just to be clear, this poster isn’t me, the +2 poster. The last two posters have twisted my point to turn it on its head.

I'm so confused. The thread seemed to start off as a pretty straightforward request for examples of how atheists handle being asked about their religion. It appears that it is a common enough question that lots of people chimed in with their different experiences of being asked, and how they respond. There were some disagreements among atheists about whether to hem and haw about their atheism or state it proudly, mostly seeming to boil down to an argument on one hand of not rocking the boat (i.e. just say you're not religious) and an argument on the other hand for normalizing it (i.e. tell people you're atheist so that it becomes a more accepted thing in society). Then a person of faith jumped in to suggest that atheists wouldn't be so disliked if they didn't belittle religious people, and now here we are 37 pages later talking about victimization. You guys, DCUM always offers such a wild ride!

Good summary! Both sides (theists/atheists) feel victimized. That will likely change when people's atheism is more known. Theists will see them as the regular people they have always been. And atheists won't feel they have to hide their lack of belief for fear of being perceived negatively.

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Announcing you’re an atheist, is only crass if they don’t bring up religion. If they are talking about church, it’s not tacky. They’re tacky for discussing religion in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:Announcing you’re an atheist, is only crass if they don’t bring up religion. If they are talking about church, it’s not tacky. They’re tacky for discussing religion in the first place.

Ugh ignore the random comma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Announcing you’re an atheist, is only crass if they don’t bring up religion. If they are talking about church, it’s not tacky. They’re tacky for discussing religion in the first place.

Maybe -- It depends on the context of the conversation. Religion or lack of religion aren't out-of-hand tacky subjects.

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Anonymous wrote:Announcing you’re an atheist, is only crass if they don’t bring up religion. If they are talking about church, it’s not tacky. They’re tacky for discussing religion in the first place.

Maybe -- It depends on the context of the conversation. Religion or lack of religion aren't out-of-hand tacky subjects.

I was at daycare dropoff last week and a mom was telling us other parents about her son's baptism over the weekend. "He's not a little heathen anymore," she joked. Maybe that joke is funny in church, where (probably) everyone is Christian and baptized, but in a setting like daycare dropoff where you don't know, yikes!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Announcing you’re an atheist, is only crass if they don’t bring up religion. If they are talking about church, it’s not tacky. They’re tacky for discussing religion in the first place.

Maybe -- It depends on the context of the conversation. Religion or lack of religion aren't out-of-hand tacky subjects.

I was at daycare dropoff last week and a mom was telling us other parents about her son's baptism over the weekend. "He's not a little heathen anymore," she joked. Maybe that joke is funny in church, where (probably) everyone is Christian and baptized, but in a setting like daycare dropoff where you don't know, yikes!

Agree. This is a good example of it being tacky to mention religion in such a way, even jokingly, that implies that any kids who aren't baptized are "little heathens."

I wonder what could be done to stop this Mom from talking this way. To me, her words seem more insensitive and thoughtless than intentionally cruel.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Announcing you’re an atheist, is only crass if they don’t bring up religion. If they are talking about church, it’s not tacky. They’re tacky for discussing religion in the first place.

Maybe -- It depends on the context of the conversation. Religion or lack of religion aren't out-of-hand tacky subjects.

I was at daycare dropoff last week and a mom was telling us other parents about her son's baptism over the weekend. "He's not a little heathen anymore," she joked. Maybe that joke is funny in church, where (probably) everyone is Christian and baptized, but in a setting like daycare dropoff where you don't know, yikes!

Agree. This is a good example of it being tacky to mention religion in such a way, even jokingly, that implies that any kids who aren't baptized are "little heathens."

I wonder what could be done to stop this Mom from talking this way. To me, her words seem more insensitive and thoughtless than intentionally cruel.

I think it would take someone she knows better bringing the problematic nature of the joke to her attention in a non-judgmental way. I don't think it would be appropriate for me to do it, because I think coming from a stranger, it would just shame her or embarrass her and, to your point, I don't think it was meant to be intentionally cruel.