Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Most people I know went to the school that either offered the best scholarship for their program or had the lowest cost for the program.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

What they mean is it doesn't fit the profile of serial killers - who commit multiple murders. This guy focus on just doing one murder and there weren't any more and maybe there never would have been. Maybe he just wanted to "prove" he could get away with it one time. His mistake was simple - the idea of murder, the theory of murder, the story of murder - all those are easy to make perfect. His mistake was forgetting that real life is not as easy and when things are really happening its so much different.

But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc. Quite bizarre really.

I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

OMG what a moron.

You consider 285/443 a top university? Please explain.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/desales-university-3986/overall-rankings#:~:text=DeSales%20University%20is%20ranked%20%23285,about%20how%20we%20rank%20schools.

IQ is not determined by what college one attends. You might also find it surprising that there are high IQ people who have not attended any college.

Noted. But there is no evidence, apart from the musings of a random classmate and a random master's professor who taught him one semester online only, to suggest he is of high intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

What they mean is it doesn't fit the profile of serial killers - who commit multiple murders. This guy focus on just doing one murder and there weren't any more and maybe there never would have been. Maybe he just wanted to "prove" he could get away with it one time. His mistake was simple - the idea of murder, the theory of murder, the story of murder - all those are easy to make perfect. His mistake was forgetting that real life is not as easy and when things are really happening its so much different.

But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc. Quite bizarre really.

I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

OMG what a moron.

You consider 285/443 a top university? Please explain.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/desales-university-3986/overall-rankings#:~:text=DeSales%20University%20is%20ranked%20%23285,about%20how%20we%20rank%20schools.

IQ is not determined by what college one attends. You might also find it surprising that there are high IQ people who have not attended any college.

Noted. But there is no evidence, apart from the musings of a random classmate and a random master's professor who taught him one semester online only, to suggest he is of high intelligence.

Sorry I am not understanding your point or why his supposed IQ matters.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

What they mean is it doesn't fit the profile of serial killers - who commit multiple murders. This guy focus on just doing one murder and there weren't any more and maybe there never would have been. Maybe he just wanted to "prove" he could get away with it one time. His mistake was simple - the idea of murder, the theory of murder, the story of murder - all those are easy to make perfect. His mistake was forgetting that real life is not as easy and when things are really happening its so much different.

But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc. Quite bizarre really.

I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

OMG what a moron.

You consider 285/443 a top university? Please explain.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/desales-university-3986/overall-rankings#:~:text=DeSales%20University%20is%20ranked%20%23285,about%20how%20we%20rank%20schools.

IQ is not determined by what college one attends. You might also find it surprising that there are high IQ people who have not attended any college.

Noted. But there is no evidence, apart from the musings of a random classmate and a random master's professor who taught him one semester online only, to suggest he is of high intelligence.

Sorry I am not understanding your point or why his supposed IQ matters.

I was responding directly to a PP who said, "But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc."

We have no evidence regarding his "supposed intelligence." I'm more inclined to believe his actions, which weren't that smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if he slipped in when the DD delivery dropped off food? Also, wasn't there a report of the front door being open in the morning? Did he come in that way and leave out back?

I doubt he needed a diversion to slip in. I'm sure one or more doors were routinely unlocked.

Yes, but the timing is interesting since it seems they (DD and him entering house) happened at almost the exact same time.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if he slipped in when the DD delivery dropped off food? Also, wasn't there a report of the front door being open in the morning? Did he come in that way and leave out back?

I doubt he needed a diversion to slip in. I'm sure one or more doors were routinely unlocked.

Yes, but the timing is interesting since it seems they (DD and him entering house) happened at almost the exact same time.

That is curious and also the fact that Xana was on tiktok until 4:12. So he entered the house through the slider, while she met door dash downstairs, and then he somehow slipped up to the third floor and murdered two people undetected while she ate and watched tik tok? Then he murdered her and her boyfriend? Seems unlikely.

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I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

His masters' thesis advisor said that "in my 10 years of teaching, I’ve only recommended two students to a Ph.D. program and he was one of them. He was one of my best students, ever. Everyone is in shock over this,” she told the outlet, adding that he was “always perfectly professional” with her. She described him as a "great writer" and "brilliant student."

Ok, you're right, she didn't administer an IQ test on him, but many people interpret her comments to suggest he has high intelligence. That said, one can be an intelligent sociopath. And intelligence is not a measure of common sense (tracks he left to get caught).

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if he slipped in when the DD delivery dropped off food? Also, wasn't there a report of the front door being open in the morning? Did he come in that way and leave out back?

I doubt he needed a diversion to slip in. I'm sure one or more doors were routinely unlocked.

Yes, but the timing is interesting since it seems they (DD and him entering house) happened at almost the exact same time.

That is curious and also the fact that Xana was on tiktok until 4:12. So he entered the house through the slider, while she met door dash downstairs, and then he somehow slipped up to the third floor and murdered two people undetected while she ate and watched tik tok? Then he murdered her and her boyfriend? Seems unlikely.

I would guess reversed. Door Dash enters front while he enters Slider. He could have been at the back of the house not knowing DoorDash was coming to the front or Door Dash arriving forced him to hide and maybe changed his decision having him enter the slider. He may have dashed to the back or maybe was already back there when Door Dash pulled up. Do we know if Door Dash saw him? Is there confirmation that they enter the same door?

Basing off these photos:

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Door dash was probably gone. I think Door Dash arrived at 4:00. BK was still seen on CCTV in his car driving at 4:04

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Anonymous wrote:Door dash was probably gone. I think Door Dash arrived at 4:00. BK was still seen on CCTV in his car driving at 4:04

I wonder if she took her food to the kitchen and perhaps spotted him while she was in the kitchen. I wonder if the two knocked over stools by the sliding door play any part in the crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if he slipped in when the DD delivery dropped off food? Also, wasn't there a report of the front door being open in the morning? Did he come in that way and leave out back?

I doubt he needed a diversion to slip in. I'm sure one or more doors were routinely unlocked.

Yes, but the timing is interesting since it seems they (DD and him entering house) happened at almost the exact same time.

That is curious and also the fact that Xana was on tiktok until 4:12. So he entered the house through the slider, while she met door dash downstairs, and then he somehow slipped up to the third floor and murdered two people undetected while she ate and watched tik tok? Then he murdered her and her boyfriend? Seems unlikely.

I would guess reversed. Door Dash enters front while he enters Slider. He could have been at the back of the house not knowing DoorDash was coming to the front or Door Dash arriving forced him to hide and maybe changed his decision having him enter the slider. He may have dashed to the back or maybe was already back there when Door Dash pulled up. Do we know if Door Dash saw him? Is there confirmation that they enter the same door?

Basing off these photos:

That's what I said.

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.

No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.

Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.

But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? qI can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.

Yep. The people lining up to question why the roommate didn't call the police may be lucky ones who've never had the "pleasure" of being on the other end of how patronizing and unhelpful police can be. Possibly drunk young college woman in the night, even more so.

I am not saying she should have jumped to calling the police. But to say you were frozen in fear (your inner survival mode is kicking in here telling you something is wrong) and then just lock yourself in your bedroom without texting or calling your roommates to see whats going on? They were good friends by all accounts and you don't go check on at least the friend down the hall from you? She got up to open her door 3 times based on noises so she was not so drunk to not hear that she couldnt hear people talking down the hallway. No it's not her fault her roomates got murdered but as a parent of the murdered kids, I'd have a lot of questions on why she chose inaction.

NP. I agree with this. I'm trying not to cast judgment on this girl, but many people err on the side of being passive bystanders rather than investigating or caring enough to take action. I've seen it personally in my life and and am deeply bothered by people like in the Lululemon murders who heard screams and were so passive they did nothing. Of course they're not responsible for the deaths. But people who are like this bother me because of their apathy towards others. It's weakness and lack of caring. With that said, I'm trying hard not to judge this girl without knowing really what happened.

The circumstances here don’t sound nearly as extreme as the LuLu Lemon case. 4 people were murdered and it was close to silent. The dog barely even barked.

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.

No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.

Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.

But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? qI can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.

Yep. The people lining up to question why the roommate didn't call the police may be lucky ones who've never had the "pleasure" of being on the other end of how patronizing and unhelpful police can be. Possibly drunk young college woman in the night, even more so.

I am not saying she should have jumped to calling the police. But to say you were frozen in fear (your inner survival mode is kicking in here telling you something is wrong) and then just lock yourself in your bedroom without texting or calling your roommates to see whats going on? They were good friends by all accounts and you don't go check on at least the friend down the hall from you? She got up to open her door 3 times based on noises so she was not so drunk to not hear that she couldnt hear people talking down the hallway. No it's not her fault her roomates got murdered but as a parent of the murdered kids, I'd have a lot of questions on why she chose inaction.

NP. I agree with this. I'm trying not to cast judgment on this girl, but many people err on the side of being passive bystanders rather than investigating or caring enough to take action. I've seen it personally in my life and and am deeply bothered by people like in the Lululemon murders who heard screams and were so passive they did nothing. Of course they're not responsible for the deaths. But people who are like this bother me because of their apathy towards others. It's weakness and lack of caring. With that said, I'm trying hard not to judge this girl without knowing really what happened.

The circumstances here don’t sound nearly as extreme as the LuLu Lemon case. 4 people were murdered and it was close to silent. The dog barely even barked.

The barking, the thump, and a scream were picked up on a camera at a neighboring house.

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

Yeah, I wonder what is up with that - that is almost impossible to explain.

No, it’s not. House was a party house. She always locked her doors due to the traffic and parties. And a mask over the nose and mouth doesn’t make people blink anymore.

Y’all are so warped. No one is wearing masks, in a residence at 4am in 2022, even in “liberal areas.” I haven’t worn a mask indoors in a private residence since I was vaccinated spring of 2021. Nor have I seen anyone else do it.

But if you are living in a party house and your mind is struggling to make sense of what you just saw, what makes more sense: my roommate had a weird guy over who is wearing a covid mask or a psycho killer just killed my roommates and is trying to hide his identity? qI can only imagine if she called the cops with this story (weird but not threatening noises, guy walking through house wearing surgical mask), even if they did go out on the call, they would have told her to drink a glass of water, go to bed, and never bother them about this cr*p again because they aren't her mommy and daddy.

Yep. The people lining up to question why the roommate didn't call the police may be lucky ones who've never had the "pleasure" of being on the other end of how patronizing and unhelpful police can be. Possibly drunk young college woman in the night, even more so.

I am not saying she should have jumped to calling the police. But to say you were frozen in fear (your inner survival mode is kicking in here telling you something is wrong) and then just lock yourself in your bedroom without texting or calling your roommates to see whats going on? They were good friends by all accounts and you don't go check on at least the friend down the hall from you? She got up to open her door 3 times based on noises so she was not so drunk to not hear that she couldnt hear people talking down the hallway. No it's not her fault her roomates got murdered but as a parent of the murdered kids, I'd have a lot of questions on why she chose inaction.

NP. I agree with this. I'm trying not to cast judgment on this girl, but many people err on the side of being passive bystanders rather than investigating or caring enough to take action. I've seen it personally in my life and and am deeply bothered by people like in the Lululemon murders who heard screams and were so passive they did nothing. Of course they're not responsible for the deaths. But people who are like this bother me because of their apathy towards others. It's weakness and lack of caring. With that said, I'm trying hard not to judge this girl without knowing really what happened.

The circumstances here don’t sound nearly as extreme as the LuLu Lemon case. 4 people were murdered and it was close to silent. The dog barely even barked.

It’s been stated that it was not silent. It’s in the affidavit that the dog barked, victims cried, murderer was heard speaking, thumps were heard. The podcast 4 Killed For What University of Idaho Murders gives a great reading of each detail.

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I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

His masters' thesis advisor said that "in my 10 years of teaching, I’ve only recommended two students to a Ph.D. program and he was one of them. He was one of my best students, ever. Everyone is in shock over this,” she told the outlet, adding that he was “always perfectly professional” with her. She described him as a "great writer" and "brilliant student."

Ok, you're right, she didn't administer an IQ test on him, but many people interpret her comments to suggest he has high intelligence. That said, one can be an intelligent sociopath.
And intelligence is not a measure of common sense (tracks he left to get caught).

She never met him. Just an online course.