Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Anonymous wrote:The only part I would find hard as a parent is if I found out they were alive and help could have saved them. If they died and would have died from the stab wounds even if help did arrive in ten minutes, it would give me a sense of peace that no intervention would have been helpful. Same is true for the surviving roommate who also has to live with this. For her own mental health, I hope all her roommates died quickly.

There is every reason to believe this was the case, hence the absence of noise.

Or it could be similar to silent drowning. You expect people to be thrashing around and gasping for air while drowning, but it's actually just a quiet slipping under the water. The autopsy will tell us and hoping for the parents, it was an instant death.

The noises were picked up on the neighbors camera. There was noise and the witness could hear the victim communicating with the killer. That verbal exchange was one of the three times she opened her door.

No one was screaming or yelling. People talking late at night isn’t unusual.

The neighbor spoke about scream, the police body cam picked up a scream, there are articles on this before the indictment came out.

what police body cam picked up a scream?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/17/scream-picked-up-by-police-bodycam-night-of-idaho-murders-report/amp/
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-scream-idaho-student-quadruple-killing-20221217-tor7ialig5aqpaj4f6bs4x6fmm-story.html
https://meaww.com/amp/idaho-murders-possible-scream-of-one-of-the-victims-may-got-caught-on-police-bodycam

The articles are plentiful these are just a few

It says that the scream was at 3am.

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They said on the news today that two people were present when 911 was called - but just one roommate lived correct? (they said one passed out and the other was hyperventilating on the call).

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Two roommates were home and spared.

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Anonymous wrote:The only part I would find hard as a parent is if I found out they were alive and help could have saved them. If they died and would have died from the stab wounds even if help did arrive in ten minutes, it would give me a sense of peace that no intervention would have been helpful. Same is true for the surviving roommate who also has to live with this. For her own mental health, I hope all her roommates died quickly.

There is every reason to believe this was the case, hence the absence of noise.

Or it could be similar to silent drowning. You expect people to be thrashing around and gasping for air while drowning, but it's actually just a quiet slipping under the water. The autopsy will tell us and hoping for the parents, it was an instant death.

The noises were picked up on the neighbors camera. There was noise and the witness could hear the victim communicating with the killer. That verbal exchange was one of the three times she opened her door.

No one was screaming or yelling. People talking late at night isn’t unusual.

The neighbor spoke about scream, the police body cam picked up a scream, there are articles on this before the indictment came out.

what police body cam picked up a scream?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/17/scream-picked-up-by-police-bodycam-night-of-idaho-murders-report/amp/
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-scream-idaho-student-quadruple-killing-20221217-tor7ialig5aqpaj4f6bs4x6fmm-story.html
https://meaww.com/amp/idaho-murders-possible-scream-of-one-of-the-victims-may-got-caught-on-police-bodycam

The articles are plentiful these are just a few

Oh good lord, you are citing journalistic bottom feeders. Do you really not know any better? Stick to the affidavit, please.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

What they mean is it doesn't fit the profile of serial killers - who commit multiple murders. This guy focus on just doing one murder and there weren't any more and maybe there never would have been. Maybe he just wanted to "prove" he could get away with it one time. His mistake was simple - the idea of murder, the theory of murder, the story of murder - all those are easy to make perfect. His mistake was forgetting that real life is not as easy and when things are really happening its so much different.

But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc. Quite bizarre really.

I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

OMG what a moron.

You consider 285/443 a top university? Please explain.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/desales-university-3986/overall-rankings#:~:text=DeSales%20University%20is%20ranked%20%23285,about%20how%20we%20rank%20schools.

There are more than 3000 colleges and universities in the US. The top 443 are all "top" by definition.

I'm still waiting for the first PP to sight any evidence for their assertion of his "intelligence." I think they made it up. Going to DeSales University is not evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

What they mean is it doesn't fit the profile of serial killers - who commit multiple murders. This guy focus on just doing one murder and there weren't any more and maybe there never would have been. Maybe he just wanted to "prove" he could get away with it one time. His mistake was simple - the idea of murder, the theory of murder, the story of murder - all those are easy to make perfect. His mistake was forgetting that real life is not as easy and when things are really happening its so much different.

But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc. Quite bizarre really.

I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

OMG what a moron.

You consider 285/443 a top university? Please explain.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/desales-university-3986/overall-rankings#:~:text=DeSales%20University%20is%20ranked%20%23285,about%20how%20we%20rank%20schools.

There are more than 3000 colleges and universities in the US. The top 443 are all "top" by definition.

I'm still waiting for the first PP to sight any evidence for their assertion of his "intelligence." I think they made it up. Going to DeSales University is not evidence.

If I'm not mistaken, a De Sale prof characterized him as brilliant and current classmates noted his (apparent) intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:They said on the news today that two people were present when 911 was called - but just one roommate lived correct? (they said one passed out and the other was hyperventilating on the call).

Have you read even a single article on this crime you are online discussing? Two roomates lived. Its always been two, in every article from the very beginning. 2 lived, 3 died, plus 1 boyfriend who didn't actually live there.

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Anonymous wrote:Leave this poor girl alone. Under no scenario is she responsible or at fault. Stop second guessing. There are zero scenarios where she intentionally refrained from calling 911 or knowing her roommates where murdered or could have saved their lives. There are nut job amateur “sleuths” all over the country questioning her actions, or worse. This girl is 21, lived through something you did not, and the kind of second guessing going on here is heartless. Just stop.

I think it's very likely that she was very drunk possibly took something to fall asleep, heard voices but wasn't able to get up and never actually saw someone in the hall but vaguely recalls getting up at some point and knowing after the fact what happened that maybe she recalled she saw someone. Probably stems from a lot of guilt. Maybe from police questioning and insisting she must have saw something, heard something

Having lived in a shared house in college, what she reported hearing and even if she saw someone, wouldn't have caused me to go investigate. I would never think a murder had occurred and besides my only knowledge of such would be horror movies that involved a ton of screaming. You don't know everyone that comes through a shared house and yeah randos show up sometimes. The only thing that would change my mind is if it comes to light that she was texting people and asking what to. And it wasn't common for me to go into my roommates bedrooms in the morning either. If they didn't get up, I wouldn't have gone into check especially on nights we had been out to parties. And again, I wouldn't think a locked or unopened door meant murder.

That's not what it says in the affidavit. It explicitly states that her description matched with the accused. So, are you saying she's lying or too drunk? That fear response is not something you forget.

Yes, I already stated it's possible that she was too drunk, or believed she remembers something after the fact - she has convinced herself. Guilt, shame, questioning by police - I think all of those could play into it.
I understand it is in the affidavit. But the affidavit is a reflection of what she told the police, and I am suggesting she told them what she did not necessarily because it is true but what she wanted to be true. It happens.

"vaguely recalls getting up at some point and knowing after the fact what happened that maybe she recalled she saw someone. Probably stems from a lot of guilt. Maybe from police questioning and insisting she must have saw something, heard something"

That is very different than saying it was a tall guy who was thin but athletic, with bushy eyebrows.

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Anonymous wrote:The only part I would find hard as a parent is if I found out they were alive and help could have saved them. If they died and would have died from the stab wounds even if help did arrive in ten minutes, it would give me a sense of peace that no intervention would have been helpful. Same is true for the surviving roommate who also has to live with this. For her own mental health, I hope all her roommates died quickly.

There is every reason to believe this was the case, hence the absence of noise.

Or it could be similar to silent drowning. You expect people to be thrashing around and gasping for air while drowning, but it's actually just a quiet slipping under the water. The autopsy will tell us and hoping for the parents, it was an instant death.

The noises were picked up on the neighbors camera. There was noise and the witness could hear the victim communicating with the killer. That verbal exchange was one of the three times she opened her door.

No one was screaming or yelling. People talking late at night isn’t unusual.

3:12 am was about an hour before the murders occurred.

The neighbor spoke about scream, the police body cam picked up a scream, there are articles on this before the indictment came out.

what police body cam picked up a scream?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/17/scream-picked-up-by-police-bodycam-night-of-idaho-murders-report/amp/
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-scream-idaho-student-quadruple-killing-20221217-tor7ialig5aqpaj4f6bs4x6fmm-story.html
https://meaww.com/amp/idaho-murders-possible-scream-of-one-of-the-victims-may-got-caught-on-police-bodycam

The articles are plentiful these are just a few

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Anonymous wrote:Leave this poor girl alone. Under no scenario is she responsible or at fault. Stop second guessing. There are zero scenarios where she intentionally refrained from calling 911 or knowing her roommates where murdered or could have saved their lives. There are nut job amateur “sleuths” all over the country questioning her actions, or worse. This girl is 21, lived through something you did not, and the kind of second guessing going on here is heartless. Just stop.

I think it's very likely that she was very drunk possibly took something to fall asleep, heard voices but wasn't able to get up and never actually saw someone in the hall but vaguely recalls getting up at some point and knowing after the fact what happened that maybe she recalled she saw someone. Probably stems from a lot of guilt. Maybe from police questioning and insisting she must have saw something, heard something

Having lived in a shared house in college, what she reported hearing and even if she saw someone, wouldn't have caused me to go investigate. I would never think a murder had occurred and besides my only knowledge of such would be horror movies that involved a ton of screaming. You don't know everyone that comes through a shared house and yeah randos show up sometimes. The only thing that would change my mind is if it comes to light that she was texting people and asking what to. And it wasn't common for me to go into my roommates bedrooms in the morning either. If they didn't get up, I wouldn't have gone into check especially on nights we had been out to parties. And again, I wouldn't think a locked or unopened door meant murder.

That's not what it says in the affidavit. It explicitly states that her description matched with the accused. So, are you saying she's lying or too drunk? That fear response is not something you forget.

Yes, I already stated it's possible that she was too drunk, or believed she remembers something after the fact - she has convinced herself. Guilt, shame, questioning by police - I think all of those could play into it.
I understand it is in the affidavit. But the affidavit is a reflection of what she told the police, and I am suggesting she told them what she did not necessarily because it is true but what she wanted to be true. It happens.

"vaguely recalls getting up at some point and knowing after the fact what happened that maybe she recalled she saw someone. Probably stems from a lot of guilt. Maybe from police questioning and insisting she must have saw something, heard something"

That is very different than saying it was a tall guy who was thin but athletic, with bushy eyebrows.

Why would she make a vision? What is the logic behind that? That he’s an innocent victim? But his dna is at the scene.

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Anonymous wrote:The only part I would find hard as a parent is if I found out they were alive and help could have saved them. If they died and would have died from the stab wounds even if help did arrive in ten minutes, it would give me a sense of peace that no intervention would have been helpful. Same is true for the surviving roommate who also has to live with this. For her own mental health, I hope all her roommates died quickly.

There is every reason to believe this was the case, hence the absence of noise.

Or it could be similar to silent drowning. You expect people to be thrashing around and gasping for air while drowning, but it's actually just a quiet slipping under the water. The autopsy will tell us and hoping for the parents, it was an instant death.

The noises were picked up on the neighbors camera. There was noise and the witness could hear the victim communicating with the killer. That verbal exchange was one of the three times she opened her door.

No one was screaming or yelling. People talking late at night isn’t unusual.

The neighbor spoke about scream, the police body cam picked up a scream, there are articles on this before the indictment came out.

what police body cam picked up a scream?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/17/scream-picked-up-by-police-bodycam-night-of-idaho-murders-report/amp/
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-scream-idaho-student-quadruple-killing-20221217-tor7ialig5aqpaj4f6bs4x6fmm-story.html
https://meaww.com/amp/idaho-murders-possible-scream-of-one-of-the-victims-may-got-caught-on-police-bodycam

The articles are plentiful these are just a few

Oh good lord, you are citing journalistic bottom feeders. Do you really not know any better? Stick to the affidavit, please.

+1 Things become incredibly twisted in translation. The affidavit is the only reliable source at present.

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Anonymous wrote:They said on the news today that two people were present when 911 was called - but just one roommate lived correct? (they said one passed out and the other was hyperventilating on the call).

Have you read even a single article on this crime you are online discussing? Two roomates lived. Its always been two, in every article from the very beginning. 2 lived, 3 died, plus 1 boyfriend who didn't actually live there.

Yes, I have but heard some conflicting info as often happens as the details of crimes unravel. The person on the news said the roommate who survived called 911 which was conflicting to what I read previously. No need to be a snark.

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Anonymous wrote:The only part I would find hard as a parent is if I found out they were alive and help could have saved them. If they died and would have died from the stab wounds even if help did arrive in ten minutes, it would give me a sense of peace that no intervention would have been helpful. Same is true for the surviving roommate who also has to live with this. For her own mental health, I hope all her roommates died quickly.

There is every reason to believe this was the case, hence the absence of noise.

Or it could be similar to silent drowning. You expect people to be thrashing around and gasping for air while drowning, but it's actually just a quiet slipping under the water. The autopsy will tell us and hoping for the parents, it was an instant death.

The noises were picked up on the neighbors camera. There was noise and the witness could hear the victim communicating with the killer. That verbal exchange was one of the three times she opened her door.

No one was screaming or yelling. People talking late at night isn’t unusual.

The neighbor spoke about scream, the police body cam picked up a scream, there are articles on this before the indictment came out.

what police body cam picked up a scream?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/17/scream-picked-up-by-police-bodycam-night-of-idaho-murders-report/amp/
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-scream-idaho-student-quadruple-killing-20221217-tor7ialig5aqpaj4f6bs4x6fmm-story.html
https://meaww.com/amp/idaho-murders-possible-scream-of-one-of-the-victims-may-got-caught-on-police-bodycam

The articles are plentiful these are just a few

Oh good lord, you are citing journalistic bottom feeders. Do you really not know any better? Stick to the affidavit, please.

+1 Things become incredibly twisted in translation. The affidavit is the only reliable source at present.

The three "sources" linked above cite the Daily Mail and Inside Edition. LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

What they mean is it doesn't fit the profile of serial killers - who commit multiple murders. This guy focus on just doing one murder and there weren't any more and maybe there never would have been. Maybe he just wanted to "prove" he could get away with it one time. His mistake was simple - the idea of murder, the theory of murder, the story of murder - all those are easy to make perfect. His mistake was forgetting that real life is not as easy and when things are really happening its so much different.

But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc. Quite bizarre really.

I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

OMG what a moron.

You consider 285/443 a top university? Please explain.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/desales-university-3986/overall-rankings#:~:text=DeSales%20University%20is%20ranked%20%23285,about%20how%20we%20rank%20schools.

There are more than 3000 colleges and universities in the US. The top 443 are all "top" by definition.

I'm still waiting for the first PP to sight any evidence for their assertion of his "intelligence." I think they made it up. Going to DeSales University is not evidence.

If I'm not mistaken, a De Sale prof characterized him as brilliant and current classmates noted his (apparent) intelligence.

I read some quotes from high school classmates who regarded him as intelligent. But it’s pretty dumb to not realize there are cameras on buildings everywhere you go these days.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard a crime analyst speaking on CNN and he said many are saying this doesn’t fit the profile of a first killing. So investigators are looking into unsolved cases in Pennsylvania and other places he’s been to see if anything matches his profile….. chilling.

What they mean is it doesn't fit the profile of serial killers - who commit multiple murders. This guy focus on just doing one murder and there weren't any more and maybe there never would have been. Maybe he just wanted to "prove" he could get away with it one time. His mistake was simple - the idea of murder, the theory of murder, the story of murder - all those are easy to make perfect. His mistake was forgetting that real life is not as easy and when things are really happening its so much different.

But given his supposed intelligence, quite dumb not to think about car ID, security cameras, cell phone pings etc. Quite bizarre really.

I haven't read anything to indicate he was high IQ. He didn't go to top schools or anything.

OMG what a moron.

You consider 285/443 a top university? Please explain.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/desales-university-3986/overall-rankings#:~:text=DeSales%20University%20is%20ranked%20%23285,about%20how%20we%20rank%20schools.

IQ is not determined by what college one attends. You might also find it surprising that there are high IQ people who have not attended any college.