2010G BSC Coming For FVU

[Anonymous]

As a BSC parent, I can say we have no idea who is coming each year new until the roster comes out or from hearing rumors through the grapevine. You’d think new girls would come to tryouts or at least come practice with the team a few times. Yet, every year there are girls that join the team that just come out of nowhere and are suddenly on the roster. This is nothing new.

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Is this mid season? I thought the season hasn’t even begun.

It is in season, and very clear in the ECNL rules and dates

Rules say season starts August 1. Based on the first day of this thread sounds like it happened before the season started.

"The 2025-26 passcards and registrations for the new season became valid on July 1, 2025." The competitive season begins Aug 1. Recruitment of registered players in another club are its own further ECNL violations.

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Is this mid season? I thought the season hasn’t even begun.

It is in season, and very clear in the ECNL rules and dates

Rules say season starts August 1. Based on the first day of this thread sounds like it happened before the season started.

"The 2025-26 passcards and registrations for the new season became valid on July 1, 2025." The competitive season begins Aug 1. Recruitment of registered players in another club are its own further ECNL violations.

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Suspensions and/or Sanctions incoming…

[Anonymous]

Look at the definitions.

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Anonymous wrote:As a BSC parent, I can say we have no idea who is coming each year new until the roster comes out or from hearing rumors through the grapevine. You’d think new girls would come to tryouts or at least come practice with the team a few times. Yet, every year there are girls that join the team that just come out of nowhere and are suddenly on the roster. This is nothing new.

It's the same at another NA ECNL girls club that my daughter is on.

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Is this mid season? I thought the season hasn’t even begun.

It is in season, and very clear in the ECNL rules and dates

Rules say season starts August 1. Based on the first day of this thread sounds like it happened before the season started.

"The 2025-26 passcards and registrations for the new season became valid on July 1, 2025." The competitive season begins Aug 1. Recruitment of registered players in another club are its own further ECNL violations.

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Suspensions and/or Sanctions incoming…

. That doesn’t make sense since the league ends after July 1.

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Anonymous wrote:Let the kids play for whomever they want to play! They are not professionals who are paid. In fact they are the ones paying the club. Absurd how others outside the parents wish to control a child’s life and decisions. It’s pathetic.

sounds cool but they have rules. What you would be suggesting is a transfer portal for teenage travel soccer lmao. That would be amazeballs to see. But not realistic. Rules are rules

Actually the rules aren’t so rigid. A good atty could win this case hands down for the players. Imagine how holding children hostage for a sport would sound to a team of jurors.

depends on what the contract says. Might not even make it to a jury if it’s ironclad.

LMAO. You clearly aren’t an atty.

I am an attorney. I read the ECNL rules, as much as I hate to say it, FVU has no chance of winning this. Look up the defined terms. Say goodbye to your old teammates. They are gone. Be nice, if history is a guide, they will be back. BSC, and their abusive coaches do not have a track record of keeping top talent at the older age groups. You can welcome them back later, or you can alienate them. That depends on if SYC parents can be civil, I doubt it, but it is ultimately your choice. Can you not bite off your nose to spite your face?

SYC?!


Yall talking about these rules?!
https://theecnl.com/documents/2023/9/11/ECNL_Competition_Rules_2023_2024.pdf?id=2

2:13:2 will be problematic if the parents willingly registered and accepted before BSC tryouts. No way around it.

2:13:5 could be problematic if ECNL determines they torpedo’d FVU team. Sounds like BSC could get PDA’d and have events removed thereby making it a waste of a season.

3.141 is pretty straightforward about the transfers.

If there are no geographic moves involved. Then the commish looks at the other factors surrounding it. And if those factors are as shady as posters are insinuating. Those kids may end up suffering as a result if impulsive decision making as the commish has to look at those “other factors surrounding”
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2/3 options are ugly. Denying the transfer most likely will leave the kids out in the cold unless roster space is available and said coach wants them to suit up.

Sanction and suspension (which sounds like the likely angle being sought w the coaching poaching allegations) gives coaches and parents what they want at the expense of the season. A true cut ur nose off to spite your face moment. I see this being the likely outcome if FVU released the cards as it puts then responsibility on ecnl to enforce the contract.

Lastly is just letting everyone leave…
No suspension or sanctions. Which is probably what parents and coaches were/are hoping for… but that ignores the other clear verbiage in the contract rules.
Bluf: if u signed ur binding language makes leaving difficult outside of geographic moves… which is why most family get a rental for this kind of stuff.

Will be am interesting thing for the commish to work out in the next week or so…

2:13:5 - Thats the one that will sink BSC for this season, slap on the wrist not a biggie but will effect the girls in recruitment cycle the most. The theory that BSC is willingly breaking the rules and sees their last season in ECNL as a wash is interesting to consider too. GA is rising!?

IF ecnl is petty…. And tactical…. YES.

Lmao. Imagine one team sinking a program. That would be something to witness

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3 teams - three upper age groups

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also the poaching (BSC has been doing this for years) that is troubling. I guess this is the new world, in college too, but it makes me sad. Rather than taking the girls you have and developing them, coaches are just trying to take from others for super teams. I get people come and go, but 5-8 at once? And look where it got BSC. They keep adding transfers, disrupt their chemistry, and get worse every year.

As I look at colleges, I’d rather my daughter go to the school that will develop her and where she will be with the same girls for years, than the one taking five transfers. Is it a lot to ask the same thing of my ECNL U16 team? Sure, let girls play wherever they want (or, rather, where their parents want them to play), but it’s got to be more transparent for everyone. I’m sure a lot of families on both teams would have made different choices if they knew this was all happening.

Didn’t FVU poach a bunch of McLean players. All in the game. Put your big boy pants on buttercup and stop whining about players that don’t want to be at your horrible club.

Fairfax Virginia Union poached an entire team from McLean.

Weird thng to say. Fairfax Virginia Union WAS McLean, VYS and BRYC. How can they poach a entire team from McLean when that team plays for the club with McLean as a member?

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Anonymous wrote:Theres nothing wrong with holding spots. The issue is depositing at your current club for the sake of completing a playoff run just to leave 3 weeks before the new season is to start. The 5 who are leaving for BSC, two girls never signed with FVU they are playing this honestly. Its the 3 who are jumping ship for less playing time remains a head scratcher and dishonest on all parties part.

oooof shame on the parents for putting kids in that predicament

And more than one team and more than 5 players.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also the poaching (BSC has been doing this for years) that is troubling. I guess this is the new world, in college too, but it makes me sad. Rather than taking the girls you have and developing them, coaches are just trying to take from others for super teams. I get people come and go, but 5-8 at once? And look where it got BSC. They keep adding transfers, disrupt their chemistry, and get worse every year.

As I look at colleges, I’d rather my daughter go to the school that will develop her and where she will be with the same girls for years, than the one taking five transfers. Is it a lot to ask the same thing of my ECNL U16 team? Sure, let girls play wherever they want (or, rather, where their parents want them to play), but it’s got to be more transparent for everyone. I’m sure a lot of families on both teams would have made different choices if they knew this was all happening.

This isn’t a coach poaching players developed by another club. This is players leaving to stay with the coach who helped their development after he was not retained by the club.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also the poaching (BSC has been doing this for years) that is troubling. I guess this is the new world, in college too, but it makes me sad. Rather than taking the girls you have and developing them, coaches are just trying to take from others for super teams. I get people come and go, but 5-8 at once? And look where it got BSC. They keep adding transfers, disrupt their chemistry, and get worse every year.

As I look at colleges, I’d rather my daughter go to the school that will develop her and where she will be with the same girls for years, than the one taking five transfers. Is it a lot to ask the same thing of my ECNL U16 team? Sure, let girls play wherever they want (or, rather, where their parents want them to play), but it’s got to be more transparent for everyone. I’m sure a lot of families on both teams would have made different choices if they knew this was all happening.

This isn’t a coach poaching players developed by another club. This is players leaving to stay with the coach who helped their development after he was not retained by the club.

Good story. Many players were recruited from multiple teams (violation) beyond those that went/were poached (violation). Go in peace, but why not do it legitimately (and honorably) according to ECNL rules like everybody else is subject to?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also the poaching (BSC has been doing this for years) that is troubling. I guess this is the new world, in college too, but it makes me sad. Rather than taking the girls you have and developing them, coaches are just trying to take from others for super teams. I get people come and go, but 5-8 at once? And look where it got BSC. They keep adding transfers, disrupt their chemistry, and get worse every year.

As I look at colleges, I’d rather my daughter go to the school that will develop her and where she will be with the same girls for years, than the one taking five transfers. Is it a lot to ask the same thing of my ECNL U16 team? Sure, let girls play wherever they want (or, rather, where their parents want them to play), but it’s got to be more transparent for everyone. I’m sure a lot of families on both teams would have made different choices if they knew this was all happening.

Didn’t FVU poach a bunch of McLean players. All in the game. Put your big boy pants on buttercup and stop whining about players that don’t want to be at your horrible club.

Fairfax Virginia Union poached an entire team from McLean.

Weird thng to say. Fairfax Virginia Union WAS McLean, VYS and BRYC. How can they poach an entire team from McLean when that team plays for the club with McLean as a member?

McLean 2013 all went to Union. They’re not playing for McLean. That’s poaching isn’t it?

[Anonymous]

Maybe they made the decision themselves and with their family to go to play in a league with more competitive teams. Is that poaching? No. You should all should probably get your facts straight before you start accusing coaches of illegal activity. Unless you want a defamation suit.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also the poaching (BSC has been doing this for years) that is troubling. I guess this is the new world, in college too, but it makes me sad. Rather than taking the girls you have and developing them, coaches are just trying to take from others for super teams. I get people come and go, but 5-8 at once? And look where it got BSC. They keep adding transfers, disrupt their chemistry, and get worse every year.

As I look at colleges, I’d rather my daughter go to the school that will develop her and where she will be with the same girls for years, than the one taking five transfers. Is it a lot to ask the same thing of my ECNL U16 team? Sure, let girls play wherever they want (or, rather, where their parents want them to play), but it’s got to be more transparent for everyone. I’m sure a lot of families on both teams would have made different choices if they knew this was all happening.

This isn’t a coach poaching players developed by another club. This is players leaving to stay with the coach who helped their development after he was not retained by the club.

Good story. Many players were recruited from multiple teams (violation) beyond those that went/were poached (violation). Go in peace, but why not do it legitimately (and honorably) according to ECNL rules like everybody else is subject to?

Kevin James and Michel go to bed or leave youth soccer in peace. Fairfax youth soccer players would be much better without you. You guys are pathetic humans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also the poaching (BSC has been doing this for years) that is troubling. I guess this is the new world, in college too, but it makes me sad. Rather than taking the girls you have and developing them, coaches are just trying to take from others for super teams. I get people come and go, but 5-8 at once? And look where it got BSC. They keep adding transfers, disrupt their chemistry, and get worse every year.

As I look at colleges, I’d rather my daughter go to the school that will develop her and where she will be with the same girls for years, than the one taking five transfers. Is it a lot to ask the same thing of my ECNL U16 team? Sure, let girls play wherever they want (or, rather, where their parents want them to play), but it’s got to be more transparent for everyone. I’m sure a lot of families on both teams would have made different choices if they knew this was all happening.

Didn’t FVU poach a bunch of McLean players. All in the game. Put your big boy pants on buttercup and stop whining about players that don’t want to be at your horrible club.

Fairfax Virginia Union poached an entire team from McLean.

Weird thng to say. Fairfax Virginia Union WAS McLean, VYS and BRYC. How can they poach an entire team from McLean when that team plays for the club with McLean as a member?

McLean 2013 all went to Union. They’re not playing for McLean. That’s poaching isn’t it?

No it isn't. This was their choice in regular tryout season.