With Love, Meghan on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the British coverage was definitely racist, PP.

I’m curious what jobs people think these two could get out of the public eye. What skills do they have?

People already mentioned it, but I think she dresses nicely. She could have partnered with Nordstrom or Bloomingdale's for a line of linen shirts and dresses, expanded into jewelry. Something like affordable-ish luxury for MC/UMC. Harry has absolutely no skills or use.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the British coverage was definitely racist, PP.

I’m curious what jobs people think these two could get out of the public eye. What skills do they have?

People already mentioned it, but I think she dresses nicely. She could have partnered with Nordstrom or Bloomingdale's for a line of linen shirts and dresses, expanded into jewelry. Something like affordable-ish luxury for MC/UMC. Harry has absolutely no skills or use.

I agree with you on Meghan. Her collaboration for that British fashion charity was nice.

Disagree Harry has no use. He served in combat.

Cannon fodder without the ability to enter the officer’s corps despite extreme hand-holding and forcing an art history prof to pass him to graduate high school does not suggest much in the way of a career for Harry.

Meghan should be able to create the illusion of a waistline if she’s so great at fashion. And yet.

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Anonymous wrote:You would think that a site like this one would choose to uplift not tear down another mom no matter how petty or judgemental you are.

I’ve always stayed clear of these H&M threads, now I know why.

I don't know why you think we should uplift someone who ridicules their friends and family on TV.

Never heard her ridicule her family. She called them out for bad behavior, like telling her to get on with it while she was suicidal and pregnant.

I really don’t care that she said curtsying is like going to Medieval Times. Do you?

It was a pretty rude thing to say about meeting your future 90 something year old grandmother-in-law. And Harry looked very uncomfortable bc it WAS uncomfortable. And the way sue addressed Mindy isn't how I would speak to my friend, in public or private. But that's fine if you act like that, just expect it to raise eyebrows.

It was not uncomfortable at all. She said the Queen was lovely but that curtsying was weird to her. If that makes you uncomfortable you need to toughen up and get a thicker skin.

I would absolutely be fine joking around with a friend. I’m sorry that you don’t seem to get along with other women so you don’t get female friendships as like an overarching concept. Maybe you should take a cue from Hillaria and go to a yoga class to make some friends there?

She ain't joking. Why is she even using this royal speak when they fled the institution and wanted nothing to do with it? She's a deranged con woman who ruined Harry's life. This show is low and pathetic. This is hardly a step up from Bravo reality TV.

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Anonymous wrote:You would think that a site like this one would choose to uplift not tear down another mom no matter how petty or judgemental you are.

I’ve always stayed clear of these H&M threads, now I know why.

I don't know why you think we should uplift someone who ridicules their friends and family on TV.

Never heard her ridicule her family. She called them out for bad behavior, like telling her to get on with it while she was suicidal and pregnant.

I really don’t care that she said curtsying is like going to Medieval Times. Do you?

It was a pretty rude thing to say about meeting your future 90 something year old grandmother-in-law. And Harry looked very uncomfortable bc it WAS uncomfortable. And the way sue addressed Mindy isn't how I would speak to my friend, in public or private. But that's fine if you act like that, just expect it to raise eyebrows.

It was not uncomfortable at all. She said the Queen was lovely but that curtsying was weird to her. If that makes you uncomfortable you need to toughen up and get a thicker skin.

I would absolutely be fine joking around with a friend. I’m sorry that you don’t seem to get along with other women so you don’t get female friendships as like an overarching concept. Maybe you should take a cue from Hillaria and go to a yoga class to make some friends there?

I don't need a thicker skin- it was uncomfortable watching Harry squirm and hearing her giggle and pretend to bow in her chair. I find her off-putting as do many people. If you don't, then great, you can tune in and watch her assemble a fruit platter. Enjoy.

In that curtsy scene she was mocking his grandmother and his family history. It was inappropriate and insensitive to him.

In addition to the new show feeling fake and forced, it's boring. And that's why it's probably not going to do very well.

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Anonymous wrote:Fear of falling way behind in this pop culture zeitgeist, I watched Meghan’s show and Alec Baldwin show yesterday, just the first episode of each.

I was rooting for Meghan and expecting the worst from the Baldwins, so I was surprised that I had the opposite reaction:

I liked the first 10 min of Meghan’s show, where there was good music playing and the scenery with the bees was lovely. I thought if she stuck to that format, it could be a very relaxing type of show to fold laundry etc. but once she got into the kitchen, it was pretty cringey. Two friends praising each other earnestly isn’t interesting or engaging. She needs a gay assistant or someone more fun/lively to break it the vibe so she doesn’t take herself too seriously. I don’t think I’ll watch another episode.

I thought I would hate the Baldwins/Hilaria, but was actually really fascinated by their life in NYC with 7 kids. They put it all out there, the messiness and chaos, and Alec is just funny with his quips (though he looks utterly exhausted).

Also, the naturalness of Hilaria’s hair/makeup/clothing compared to how made up and stiff Meghan looked was quite jarring.

I will continue to watch the Baldwin show, but I feel bad that I find Meghan’s show unwatchable.

Alec Baldwin is much more likable than Meghan. I think he is a smart and good person who has had some struggles in life which have humbled him and he has grown from.

I wouldn’t want to watch Hilaria or Meghan, but of the two, I prefer Hilaria because even with her grift, she actually seems less full of sh*t than Meghan.

He literally called his own child a pig lol

And yet, he is still more likable than Meghan. Alec is flawed and he is vulnerable about that. He is remorseful about his relationship with his daughter. And more impotently, he doesn’t pretend that his life is rainbow and butterflies and that the world had so much to learn from him - so here, enjoy this gift of a “reality” show he’s giving you. It’s quite the opposite - the world is intrigued by his chaotic life, so he got a contract and since he obviously wants the money, he is monetizing it.

He doesn’t pretend that his life is rainbow and butterflies because he’s literally murdered someone. Meghan has done nothing of the sort.

Do you hear yourself? Alex Baldwin is giving us the “gift” of a reality show? Babes he kept knocking up his fraud of a wife and now has to pay tuition for 30 kids. That’s why we are getting a reality show.

DP. He accidentally killed someone. That is not murder but you know that. Sorry people find him more entertaining than Duchess Sussex puttering around someone else's home using other people's ideas.

It doesn’t have to do with the fact that he accidentally killed someone. It has to do with the fact that he realizes how ridiculous it is that he is sixty something and raising seven kids under ten, and he is willing to make a mockery of that on television (even if it’s just because he needs the money.) unlike meghan, he is not there saying it’s not to insane, and here are tips to do the same thing in your life. Moreover, Alec is the interesting half of his marriage. Nobody is interested in Hilaria alone, just like nobody is interested in Meghan alone. She is only relevant because she is married to a famous prince, but she is delusional enough to think it’s her that the world cares about.

Pp again- and Kate is more likable than Meghan precisely because she wouldn’t nauseatingly correct someone on air for calling her Kate Middleton, and make some ornery speech about how she needs to be called “Catherine of Kent” because it’s about sharing a family name with her *kids* Meghan is self righteous, full of crap, and a narcissist. She’s annoying to watch. Kate realizes she’s a cog in the wheel of a well oiled machine and for all of her privilege, she doesn’t whine publicly about the system that’s given her this life.

You like her because she doesn’t complain. That says a lot about you.

I like Kate because she seems like a nice person. I would be fine if she chose to push back on the ridiculousness of the royal family.

I find all celebrities who complain about fame annoying. Meghan complains about the attention in one breath and in the next, begs for it.

We have no idea if Kate is a nice person. She has a very disciplined and curated image. I do like that she doesn’t beg for attention and doesn’t seem like a hypocrite. She does her job and lives her life as privately as she can. Meghan claims she wants privacy, but can’t help herself talking about how much she wants privacy. She is her own worst enemy.

I like how you reduce her complaints of extreme racist abuse that she received from the media and the family to "she complains about the attention."

Never happened.

Sadly, she definitely decanted pretzel bites from plastic into other, cuter plastic. That happened. And I’m complaining about it!

But don't forget she also tied a hand written tag on the plastic bag to identify the contents!

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the British coverage was definitely racist, PP.

I’m curious what jobs people think these two could get out of the public eye. What skills do they have?

People already mentioned it, but I think she dresses nicely. She could have partnered with Nordstrom or Bloomingdale's for a line of linen shirts and dresses, expanded into jewelry. Something like affordable-ish luxury for MC/UMC. Harry has absolutely no skills or use.

I agree with you on Meghan. Her collaboration for that British fashion charity was nice.

Disagree Harry has no use. He served in combat.

Cannon fodder without the ability to enter the officer’s corps despite extreme hand-holding and forcing an art history prof to pass him to graduate high school does not suggest much in the way of a career for Harry.

Meghan should be able to create the illusion of a waistline if she’s so great at fashion. And yet.

This is a perfect example of personal attacks. It’s fine to think the show is bad but randomly bringing up perceived flaws with her body is strange.

She has a good enough figure she was able to bag a prince at 35. Sorry you’re stuck out in, what, Springfield or Fredericksburg? with a schlub who couldn’t even partner track at a V30.

Do you see how dumb baseless personal attacks sound.

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Neither of them should be famous. One was born into it and one social clawed and climbed into it. Unfortunately once famous, they feel the need to act famous and to get attention and they seem to falsely believe they have something to offer the world at large. It is unfortunate but it is what it is. It is good for entertainment at least. When the world is falling apart, you can watch the Kardashians or the Baldwinito's or the Markle-Mountbatten-Windsor-Sussexes and forget about the real drama.

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What is wrong with that, it’s real. She was giving it to her guest because she knows he liked them. Why don’t you go make some peanut butter pretzels from scratch. Different perceptions, I viewed it as a nice touch and wanted to know the brand.

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Anonymous wrote:Fear of falling way behind in this pop culture zeitgeist, I watched Meghan’s show and Alec Baldwin show yesterday, just the first episode of each.

I was rooting for Meghan and expecting the worst from the Baldwins, so I was surprised that I had the opposite reaction:

I liked the first 10 min of Meghan’s show, where there was good music playing and the scenery with the bees was lovely. I thought if she stuck to that format, it could be a very relaxing type of show to fold laundry etc. but once she got into the kitchen, it was pretty cringey. Two friends praising each other earnestly isn’t interesting or engaging. She needs a gay assistant or someone more fun/lively to break it the vibe so she doesn’t take herself too seriously. I don’t think I’ll watch another episode.

I thought I would hate the Baldwins/Hilaria, but was actually really fascinated by their life in NYC with 7 kids. They put it all out there, the messiness and chaos, and Alec is just funny with his quips (though he looks utterly exhausted).

Also, the naturalness of Hilaria’s hair/makeup/clothing compared to how made up and stiff Meghan looked was quite jarring.

I will continue to watch the Baldwin show, but I feel bad that I find Meghan’s show unwatchable.

Alec Baldwin is much more likable than Meghan. I think he is a smart and good person who has had some struggles in life which have humbled him and he has grown from.

I wouldn’t want to watch Hilaria or Meghan, but of the two, I prefer Hilaria because even with her grift, she actually seems less full of sh*t than Meghan.

He literally called his own child a pig lol

And yet, he is still more likable than Meghan. Alec is flawed and he is vulnerable about that. He is remorseful about his relationship with his daughter. And more impotently, he doesn’t pretend that his life is rainbow and butterflies and that the world had so much to learn from him - so here, enjoy this gift of a “reality” show he’s giving you. It’s quite the opposite - the world is intrigued by his chaotic life, so he got a contract and since he obviously wants the money, he is monetizing it.

He doesn’t pretend that his life is rainbow and butterflies because he’s literally murdered someone. Meghan has done nothing of the sort.

Do you hear yourself? Alex Baldwin is giving us the “gift” of a reality show? Babes he kept knocking up his fraud of a wife and now has to pay tuition for 30 kids. That’s why we are getting a reality show.

DP. He accidentally killed someone. That is not murder but you know that. Sorry people find him more entertaining than Duchess Sussex puttering around someone else's home using other people's ideas.

It doesn’t have to do with the fact that he accidentally killed someone. It has to do with the fact that he realizes how ridiculous it is that he is sixty something and raising seven kids under ten, and he is willing to make a mockery of that on television (even if it’s just because he needs the money.) unlike meghan, he is not there saying it’s not to insane, and here are tips to do the same thing in your life. Moreover, Alec is the interesting half of his marriage. Nobody is interested in Hilaria alone, just like nobody is interested in Meghan alone. She is only relevant because she is married to a famous prince, but she is delusional enough to think it’s her that the world cares about.

Pp again- and Kate is more likable than Meghan precisely because she wouldn’t nauseatingly correct someone on air for calling her Kate Middleton, and make some ornery speech about how she needs to be called “Catherine of Kent” because it’s about sharing a family name with her *kids* Meghan is self righteous, full of crap, and a narcissist. She’s annoying to watch. Kate realizes she’s a cog in the wheel of a well oiled machine and for all of her privilege, she doesn’t whine publicly about the system that’s given her this life.

You like her because she doesn’t complain. That says a lot about you.

I like Kate because she seems like a nice person. I would be fine if she chose to push back on the ridiculousness of the royal family.

I find all celebrities who complain about fame annoying. Meghan complains about the attention in one breath and in the next, begs for it.

We have no idea if Kate is a nice person. She has a very disciplined and curated image. I do like that she doesn’t beg for attention and doesn’t seem like a hypocrite. She does her job and lives her life as privately as she can. Meghan claims she wants privacy, but can’t help herself talking about how much she wants privacy. She is her own worst enemy.

I like how you reduce her complaints of extreme racist abuse that she received from the media and the family to "she complains about the attention."

See, I don’t think the media coverage of her was racist. I think Kate faced very similar scrutiny for a long time. As did Diana. I think Meghan was delusional about what marrying into the royal family would entail on multiple fronts, including brutal media coverage.

You haven't seen the British media have you? Here is a good list: https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/1/17/21070351/meghan-markle-prince-harry-leaving-royal-family-uk-racism

Assuming you won't read that, there was a headline she was straight outta Compton. A BBC reporter tweeted a picture of a chimpanzee saying it was their son story. A story that the avocado toast she liked was fueling murder and drought. A story that used "niggling" in the headline, how is that not a dog whistle? She got 2x as many negatives headlines as Kate. How is that not racist?

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Anonymous wrote:I binged 3 episodes while cleaning my house. It's mindless, escapism background TV. Two thumbs up.

I enjoy insight into who she is and the life she has cultivated. You can tell she's a good mom and she actually likes cooking and homemaking.

Her relationships with "friends" seem stilted and fake. Plus she's boring!

Maybe the criticism is because we expected "more" from her? I don't see any difference between her and Martha, Gwenyth, Ina, etc.

I don't see any "bullying" on here. It's not like people are going after her kids or telling her to off herself. There's an absolute line, but I don't see anyone crossing it.

Plus, even if people are hate watching, a view is a view.

No snark, but how can you tell that about anyone, really? What is a good mom?

PP here. Fair point, I should not have said "good mom." I should've said "hands on mom." I think she is actually "walking the walk" - making her kids dinner, making their school lunches, doing hands on activities with them, etc. (Contrast to Kim or Kourtney Kardashian, whose kids seem 100% raised by nannies).

(I'm a mom of four. I will note that she's not sharing anything groundbreaking. But she talks about stuff that I think you learn by being around your kids, and you wouldn't know if your kids were solely raised by nannies).

However, I shouldn't have said "good mom." You could argue she's actually a terrible mom for, along with her husband, cutting their kids off from their extended family and ruining the kids' chance to serve as royalty. Or, you could argue she's a great mom for protecting her kids from that toxicity.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the British coverage was definitely racist, PP.

I’m curious what jobs people think these two could get out of the public eye. What skills do they have?

People already mentioned it, but I think she dresses nicely. She could have partnered with Nordstrom or Bloomingdale's for a line of linen shirts and dresses, expanded into jewelry. Something like affordable-ish luxury for MC/UMC. Harry has absolutely no skills or use.

This is the truest thing on this thread.

Well, he used to fly a helicopter. Maybe they can buy one and he can do charity flights, like transporting cancer patients to their appointments out of state.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the British coverage was definitely racist, PP.

I’m curious what jobs people think these two could get out of the public eye. What skills do they have?

The British media is BRUTAL in general. They just pick your weak spot and exploit it. The racism was inexcusable, but so was the fat shaming of fergie, the cruelty of exposing Charles infidelity, and the "waity katie" bit for kate.

It's arrogant, myopic, and selfish for MM to portray the media as specifically cruel to HER. They are cruel to everyone.

I think they were essentially asked to leave and she had to make an excuse as to why.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the British coverage was definitely racist, PP.

I’m curious what jobs people think these two could get out of the public eye. What skills do they have?

People already mentioned it, but I think she dresses nicely. She could have partnered with Nordstrom or Bloomingdale's for a line of linen shirts and dresses, expanded into jewelry. Something like affordable-ish luxury for MC/UMC. Harry has absolutely no skills or use.

I agree with you on Meghan. Her collaboration for that British fashion charity was nice.

Disagree Harry has no use. He served in combat.

Cannon fodder without the ability to enter the officer’s corps despite extreme hand-holding and forcing an art history prof to pass him to graduate high school does not suggest much in the way of a career for Harry.

Meghan should be able to create the illusion of a waistline if she’s so great at fashion. And yet.

This is a perfect example of personal attacks. It’s fine to think the show is bad but randomly bringing up perceived flaws with her body is strange.

She has a good enough figure she was able to bag a prince at 35. Sorry you’re stuck out in, what, Springfield or Fredericksburg? with a schlub who couldn’t even partner track at a V30.

Do you see how dumb baseless personal attacks sound.

She dresses herself like a Lady SpongeBob— she cannot style herself. She lacks the skill, and has never designed clothes or accessories either. If another poster insists that good styling is her thing, based on her look, it’s absolutely fair to note that Meghan lacks any eye for styling and that her waistlessness shows that. It’s about the skill deficit not her body. No one is making that argument about Ina Garten, who is older, heavier, and who also sprinkled in hostessing tips between cooking demos.

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I don't think most criticism of her is because of her race anymore than criticism of the Tate brothers is because of their race.

Sometimes you just disagree or don't like people or their public image or their persona or their programs.

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Anonymous wrote:Fear of falling way behind in this pop culture zeitgeist, I watched Meghan’s show and Alec Baldwin show yesterday, just the first episode of each.

I was rooting for Meghan and expecting the worst from the Baldwins, so I was surprised that I had the opposite reaction:

I liked the first 10 min of Meghan’s show, where there was good music playing and the scenery with the bees was lovely. I thought if she stuck to that format, it could be a very relaxing type of show to fold laundry etc. but once she got into the kitchen, it was pretty cringey. Two friends praising each other earnestly isn’t interesting or engaging. She needs a gay assistant or someone more fun/lively to break it the vibe so she doesn’t take herself too seriously. I don’t think I’ll watch another episode.

I thought I would hate the Baldwins/Hilaria, but was actually really fascinated by their life in NYC with 7 kids. They put it all out there, the messiness and chaos, and Alec is just funny with his quips (though he looks utterly exhausted).

Also, the naturalness of Hilaria’s hair/makeup/clothing compared to how made up and stiff Meghan looked was quite jarring.

I will continue to watch the Baldwin show, but I feel bad that I find Meghan’s show unwatchable.

Alec Baldwin is much more likable than Meghan. I think he is a smart and good person who has had some struggles in life which have humbled him and he has grown from.

I wouldn’t want to watch Hilaria or Meghan, but of the two, I prefer Hilaria because even with her grift, she actually seems less full of sh*t than Meghan.

He literally called his own child a pig lol

And yet, he is still more likable than Meghan. Alec is flawed and he is vulnerable about that. He is remorseful about his relationship with his daughter. And more impotently, he doesn’t pretend that his life is rainbow and butterflies and that the world had so much to learn from him - so here, enjoy this gift of a “reality” show he’s giving you. It’s quite the opposite - the world is intrigued by his chaotic life, so he got a contract and since he obviously wants the money, he is monetizing it.

He doesn’t pretend that his life is rainbow and butterflies because he’s literally murdered someone. Meghan has done nothing of the sort.

Do you hear yourself? Alex Baldwin is giving us the “gift” of a reality show? Babes he kept knocking up his fraud of a wife and now has to pay tuition for 30 kids. That’s why we are getting a reality show.

DP. He accidentally killed someone. That is not murder but you know that. Sorry people find him more entertaining than Duchess Sussex puttering around someone else's home using other people's ideas.

It doesn’t have to do with the fact that he accidentally killed someone. It has to do with the fact that he realizes how ridiculous it is that he is sixty something and raising seven kids under ten, and he is willing to make a mockery of that on television (even if it’s just because he needs the money.) unlike meghan, he is not there saying it’s not to insane, and here are tips to do the same thing in your life. Moreover, Alec is the interesting half of his marriage. Nobody is interested in Hilaria alone, just like nobody is interested in Meghan alone. She is only relevant because she is married to a famous prince, but she is delusional enough to think it’s her that the world cares about.

Pp again- and Kate is more likable than Meghan precisely because she wouldn’t nauseatingly correct someone on air for calling her Kate Middleton, and make some ornery speech about how she needs to be called “Catherine of Kent” because it’s about sharing a family name with her *kids* Meghan is self righteous, full of crap, and a narcissist. She’s annoying to watch. Kate realizes she’s a cog in the wheel of a well oiled machine and for all of her privilege, she doesn’t whine publicly about the system that’s given her this life.

You like her because she doesn’t complain. That says a lot about you.

I like Kate because she seems like a nice person. I would be fine if she chose to push back on the ridiculousness of the royal family.

I find all celebrities who complain about fame annoying. Meghan complains about the attention in one breath and in the next, begs for it.

We have no idea if Kate is a nice person. She has a very disciplined and curated image. I do like that she doesn’t beg for attention and doesn’t seem like a hypocrite. She does her job and lives her life as privately as she can. Meghan claims she wants privacy, but can’t help herself talking about how much she wants privacy. She is her own worst enemy.

Haha it is pretty funny that she is on the cover of People magazine promoting her show and then in the next breath discussing how they just want their privacy. I don't understand, she and Harry could easily leverage their connections to get jobs out of the public eye and decline to do interviews. Nothing they say makes sense.

Meghan and Harry never said they wanted privacy. I think they want a break from the more aggro followers who demand weekly pics of their kids and feel entitled to their personal lives. But they never said they didn’t like being in the public eye.

It’s clear that she enjoys being famous.

Also never happened.

It most certainly did. People threw an absolute fit when they didn't want to share what hospital the first baby was born and didn't take pictures on the steps the day after she gave birth. They literally had trespassers invade their home, after receiving death threats from the far-right so serious that the police commented on it.

And because you're going to say that never happened:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63804711