She picked Tim

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Anonymous wrote:Doofus that gets her no improved chances on the electoral map. Done to satisfy the fringe who probably won’t vote anyway.

Right?! Why didn’t she pick Shapiro and try to make a battle for PA? Did Shapiro not want it? Did the opposition research find stuff on him or Kelly? This is “meh” for me but maybe he’ll surprise us?

If she’s going to get PA, it will be on her own, she doesn’t need the state’s gov to carry the state. I like Shapiro a lot but his previous statements are a distraction in this current political environment. People have short memories though and who knows what the landscape will look like in ~10 years, when he’ll be 61 - a very normal age to run for pres. Plus I think he needs to stay as Gov longer - he’s only in his first term.

Given everything going on Israel right now, the dual loyalty thing could've totally splintered the Democrats and it will always haunt Shapiro given the IDF story. I say this as a Jew who knows the antisemitic tropes too well.

Not to mention creating a constitutional crisis if he ever had to serve in her stead as Commander in Chief.

Gross antisemitism on display. Same comment would not be said about other groups.

+1 This is the dual loyalty trope. It's antisemitism 101. Now that you know, please do better in the future.

But there is dual loyalty. Some Jewish people I know say they care more about Israel than the US. Not saying that is Shapiro but it is not uncommon. No way he can even pretend to be unbiased in Middle East politics

So why are you saying there is dual loyalty? I'd check myself if I were you.

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American Jew here. I have NO loyalty to israel. None.

Rightly so. If American born Chinese have dual loyalty to China, I am sure the pitch forks would be out.

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Anonymous wrote:Shapiro was the better pick. Would have gotten her PA.

But she would have lost Michigan in return as so so many Muslim voters there pissed at Biden for Gaza response….

Shapiro would have caused party infighting which is sad to see a Jewish politician as controversial…

I don’t think Jewish politicians are controversial. I think politicians who behaved the was he has specifically (writing negatively about Palestinians, not responding to Islamophobia and crimes against Muslims in PA, and yes volunteering for the IDF in whatever capacity) are controversial.

This. If even one-quarter of your loyalty is to Israel and not to the United States, you should not be running for vice president or president of the USA.

It’s baffling and frankly pathetic that we have to tiptoe around an issue that is so obviously unacceptable. I don’t want anyone in elected office or in any federal position that gets within 100 yards of foreign policy that is even 1% loyal to a foreign government.

It’s bizarre to try to normalize loyalty at any level to a foreign state.

Is Biden making decisions with Ireland in mind? Trump with Scotland in mind? Of course not.

There IS a clear and unequivocal dual
loyalty conflict with some Jewish Americans. If you can’t tell that their loyalty to Israel goes far beyond your other neighbor’s loyalty to Italy or Germany or Argentina or Taiwan or wherever, that’s on you. But it’s not anti-semitic of others to point out the obvious.

All of that said, I’m relieved that Shapiro wasn’t selected. I don’t think he’s suitable for federal office in an elected or appointed capacity.

Tim Walz was picked. He's pro-Israel too. Time to focus on that if you don't like it.

Everyone is "pro-Israel"

The question or issue is, is there any space between the US and specifically Netanyahu? Is there any compassion for civilian Palestianians?

For the right, the answer is no. Push the Palestinians into the sea and let Netanyahu reign supreme.
For the left, the answer is yes, support Israel's right to existence, militarily support Israel's ability to defend itself and provide aid for Gazan's who are in a precarious humanitairan condition.

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Tim Walz is a gun toting weirdo

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Anonymous wrote:I look forward to 2025 if Kamala and Tim win

Ya, after right wingers started the looting and fires under the cloak of the Floyd protests.

Found my person! Yes, this happened in many cities, especially NYC. I know from the horses mouth that white supremacy groups were paying actors to loot. Personal source: NYPD Intel manning command center in real time to create barricades known as pits for LEO. There were many small groups and they kept moving quickly, never entering stores or buildings just opening the doors and windows for the looters to loot. Same on Jan 6. Same when Trump ordered rubber bullets to rain on peaceful protestors.

At some point the full story has to come out. This happened with "Portland" and Minneapolis. But it also goes back to Ferguson, Missouri. the right has been doing this for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Shapiro was the better pick. Would have gotten her PA.

But she would have lost Michigan in return as so so many Muslim voters there pissed at Biden for Gaza response….

Shapiro would have caused party infighting which is sad to see a Jewish politician as controversial…

I don’t think Jewish politicians are controversial. I think politicians who behaved the was he has specifically (writing negatively about Palestinians, not responding to Islamophobia and crimes against Muslims in PA, and yes volunteering for the IDF in whatever capacity) are controversial.

This. If even one-quarter of your loyalty is to Israel and not to the United States, you should not be running for vice president or president of the USA.

It’s baffling and frankly pathetic that we have to tiptoe around an issue that is so obviously unacceptable. I don’t want anyone in elected office or in any federal position that gets within 100 yards of foreign policy that is even 1% loyal to a foreign government.

It’s bizarre to try to normalize loyalty at any level to a foreign state.

Is Biden making decisions with Ireland in mind? Trump with Scotland in mind? Of course not.

There IS a clear and unequivocal dual
loyalty conflict with some Jewish Americans. If you can’t tell that their loyalty to Israel goes far beyond your other neighbor’s loyalty to Italy or Germany or Argentina or Taiwan or wherever, that’s on you. But it’s not anti-semitic of others to point out the obvious.

All of that said, I’m relieved that Shapiro wasn’t selected. I don’t think he’s suitable for federal office in an elected or appointed capacity.

Tim Walz was picked. He's pro-Israel too. Time to focus on that if you don't like it.

Have you not noticed that he at least makes an effort to consider the humanity under Israel’s boot, too?

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Walz is a gun toting weirdo

Awwww good try, little buddy

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Walz is a gun toting weirdo

Like most heartland Americans, who will relate to him. He also favors commonsense gun laws, so yay.

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Anonymous wrote:Walz is pretty funny.

Good. Democrats are actually capable of laughter so bring on some humor.

IDK; most humor is rooted in discrimination and oppression on some level.

It’s best avoided entirely.

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Anonymous wrote:does he go to church? If so what are his attendance records?

Do Trump's. I'll wait.

Trump goes online -- so no need to attend church.

To Truth Social. The man doesn't have a religious bone in his body, yet has convinced Christians and Christian Nationalists he is their guy.

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Walz is a gun toting weirdo

He is the anti weirdo.

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Anonymous wrote:We lost Pennsylvania. It’s over

You wish.

Last I read, Harris has 36 field offices in PA to Trump's 3. Barring any unforced errors, it will come down to the ground game.

And this is really the problem for Trump nationwide. The RNC is a total cluster-f right now because Trump installed his own people, none of whom have the slightest idea what they're doing (Lara Trump especially). Meanwhile, he's just rambling incoherently at his ego-boost rallies and picking a VP candidate who brings absolutely nothing to the ticket.

The FEC recently changed campaign rules to allow outside groups to do the GOTV activities that used to be done by campaigns. Trump/RNC have outsourced it, funded by rich donors, I'm sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Great. Another old white guy.

He’s basically GenX. Sure not young…

He was born in 64. That aint Gen X by any measure.

By most measures, Gen X starts in 1965

Gen X started in 1969.

Walz missed it by 5 years

Nope.

Mid-1960s. Even the Pew says so: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/

--Gen X born in 1966

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Walz is a gun toting weirdo

Like most heartland Americans, who will relate to him. He also favors communist gun laws, so yay.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do I feel sad with this pick, I’m reading that the republicans are celebrating

This is all BS. They've just lost their chance at the blue wall, and they know it. They also don't understand how important it is to have someone so genuinely likable on the ticket, since it's been so long for them.

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Anonymous wrote:The finalists need to get on their social media to promote this ticket. Not one has posted yet. They should have had something ready to go.

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They have all posted.

The democrats antiSemitism means Shapiro was never seriously considered as a VP pick.

Antisemitism - DRINK!

(Shapiro was not the best option for a variety of reasons, just FYI)