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The Ohio AG is lying through his teeth.

Is he? Do you have a link to support your claim?

The dna evidence of rape would be the aborted baby. We all know this story is a lie now, but everyone seems ok for this unknown pregnant 10 year old to be raped and impregnated by an adult, the adult never face any charges or legal consequences, apparently.

No, Nancy Drew, the story unfortunately is true. The rapist has been arrested. The Ohio AG, the right-wing media jackals, the forced birth crowd -- YOU WERE ALL WRONG. You wrongly accused a respected physician of lying. And, yes, a little girl was forced to travel to another state so she didn't have to go through a pregnancy and bear her rapist's child.

YOUR CRAZY IDEAS HAVE CAUSED A LITTLE CHILD EVEN MORE PAIN. F YOU.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

A Columbus man has been charged with impregnating a 10-year-old Ohio girl, whose travel to Indiana to seek an abortion led to international attention following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v Wade and activation of Ohio's abortion law.

Gershon Fuentes, 27, whose last known address was an apartment on Columbus' Northwest Side, was arrested Tuesday after police say he confessed to raping the child on at least two occasions. He's since been charged with rape, a felony of the first degree in Ohio.

Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.

Oh God. I believed the story when it first came out. Why wouldn’t I? And when the right wingers said it was a lie, I was so hoping in this case to be owned. I was absolutely happy to think that this particular case wasn’t true. And to find out that the AG was just lying through his teeth in defense of an indefensible political position? So so upsetting. Magas - I wanted you to be right and suspended my disbelief to figure you might have known what you were talking about. But it’s all part of the grift. That poor poor child. Victimized once by the rapist, a second time by the State of Ohio, and a third time by the ugly right wing mob.

And her doctor is going to be put through the wringer.

Yep. Sounds like a pretty convincing way to discourage doctors talking about those inconvenient cases that illustrate how sh!tty the forced birther arguments are.

If nobody talks about the inconvenient horrible cases, they don't exist.
If they do talk about them, then obviously they shouldn't and must be effectively punished.

Damn. It's almost like they want to pretend those cases don't actually happen.

It’s more like they don’t care about the child’s suffering. In their view, a young minor is less likely to be drug addicted and therefore more likely to produce a healthy, adoptable infant. Therefore, they view pregnant children as a net positive for society.

Never forget: "a domestic supply of infants."

You know, when I read the phrase from the opinion, I didn’t think the forced birthers wanted ten-year-olds raped. I knew they had no morals but I did not think they were that low. How wrong I was.

Next they’ll demand that the child marry her rapist.

They’ll demand she give the child up for adoption. Just watch what happens. Force little girls to give birth and steal their children. This is nothing new.

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Watching the hearing The Threat to Individual Freedoms in a Post-Roe World just now. If you have a chance, watch Swallwell's questioning. The GOP's witness tries to claim that under the Ohio law, a 10-year-old terminating a pregnancy from rape isn't an "abortion" She flatly says that. Of course, we all know it is because abortion is a MEDICAL TERM that means ending a pregnancy, no matter the cause. Besides the gaslighting, why not just say the girl will get an amazing life lesson to be a mother or that her baby will add to the domestic supply of infants.

But no, she lies and gaslights instead. And this folks is how we no they know what they are doing is highly unpopular but are doing so anyway. F anyone who votes for these monsters. You think your daughter is safe but rape is VERY, Very, common.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly there is a very dark strain of misogyny that runs through the GOP. Child rape and sexual molestation and incest are not new. It’s something that even the self-hating women in the movement are okay with, for some of them because it happened to them and they had to lock up that part of their brain and soul to get through.

But for those who are experiencing a crack of humanity in their armor of misogyny, remember what a ten year old is.

Anonymous wrote:It’s impossible to take in the full gravity of this story without thinking carefully about how young a 10-year-old is.

Ten-year-olds are of an age when Dr. Benjamin Spock said children are finally prepared “to cross a heavily traveled street without adult supervision.” The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s childhood development guidelines for children this age emphasize that they are still learning to build deep friendships and understand concepts such as responsibility.

They are usually in fourth or fifth grade, depending on when their birthdays fall, and they are being assessed on concepts such as reading comprehension and fractions. They’re at the right age for Pixar movies, but not for Marvel action extravaganzas; they can handle Amelia Bedelia and Willy Wonka and maybe the later Harry Potter books.

Gift guides for 10-year-olds recommend STEM learning toys and plush comfort animals. Ames’s research suggested that 10-year-olds are still learning to tell jokes; that they’re prone to losing or frittering away money; that they think dating is something for the future.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/13/ohio-10-year-old-rape-abortion-childhood/

If you are one of the Democrats who reliably votes Democratic but has always felt that forced birthers really cared about life, you can stop doing that. If you’re a forced birther who voted your forced birther politics with your misogyny a background issue and believed that life was so important, what about the life of the actually living? It’s time to sit with your internalized misogyny. This is an especially heinous example, but think of the misery your forcing your beliefs on women will cause.

My dd is 16, but thinking about her at that age, just, damn. This made me tear up. She literally just texted me asking if I’d order a pillow pet that’s on sale. At 10, she had a bed full of stuffed animals, still pretended to believe in Santa, totally rocked fractions but had trouble remembering where to put the decimal when multiplying, and would still reach for my hand when we crossed the street if her friends weren’t around. She was engrossed in the Warriors cats book series (I remember her crying when one of the cats died), and had stopped reading The Hunger Games series because she didn’t like the violence. There’s no reality, no circumstance, no way of thinking that makes it ok to require her to try to carry a pregnancy to term, deliver a baby, and deal with postpartum care, on top of the trauma of rape. Thinking about her losing her privacy in the process and having to further protect her from conservative a-holes who don’t believe her or think we forced her to commit murder instead of helping her heal, it’s beyond infuriating. It’s like salt in the wound knowing that this isn’t exactly uncommon, and that the frequency goes up among children with special needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Even Kessler is being kind of a d|ck about this.

How is being a d!ck? He did his due diligence and he's correct. Too bad all journalists don't get ALL the facts before rushing to judgment.

No he didn’t do his due diligence because he didn’t get the facts, and now he’s being smarmy about it.

No, it is true that no one was able to confirm this story - that's just a fact. You can call people names and sling your insults all you want, but the FACT is that until the rapist was arrested and his name made public, there were NO verifiable facts to go on. Deal with it.

But if you can't confirm because of privacy matters, that is not justification to imply that it isn't true. He could have waited until the allegation was investigated by law enforcement. Do you think they arrested the rapist without confirming that the girl really had been raped and impregnated by someone? Do you think that if no one is arrested, that proves that there was no rape?

And further, lets say that the story was proved not to be true. Do you really think that the circumstances are so outlandish that no story like that would not be true? I mean - we sadly have child rape - that isn't in dispute. 10 year olds can unfortunately get pregnant. And Ohio has put a ban on abortions into place. Why is the story so unbelievable to you that you have to potentially revictimize this child? What do you gain from it?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I didn’t think that the forced birthers supported child rape prior to this. How wrong I was. My God.

Correct. Go look at the GOP corruption thread for more. I lost track over the hundred plus pages of how many rapists and child rapists and other assorted life destroying sex crimes various Republican elected officials are guilty of. It’s disgusting and it’s clearly a serious problem in the party.

Yeah, I’m a political moderate who has voted for Republicans in the past, and I used to think that the Democrats were being pretty hypocritical about the sex assaults by Republicans because there are plenty of sex assaulter amongst the Democrats too. But the aftermath of the Roe decision has shown to me that this issue of Republican child rapists is deeply part of the party. They really, as a group, support child rape. It’s horrifying to watch.

I’m probably not going to vote Republican again in my lifetime, barring serious restructuring of the party. I can’t stomach it. Between the enthusiastic cheerleading for child rape (my God!!), the insurrection, and the blind allegiance to the gun lobby, I can’t see how I could ever vote for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly there is a very dark strain of misogyny that runs through the GOP. Child rape and sexual molestation and incest are not new. It’s something that even the self-hating women in the movement are okay with, for some of them because it happened to them and they had to lock up that part of their brain and soul to get through.

But for those who are experiencing a crack of humanity in their armor of misogyny, remember what a ten year old is.

Anonymous wrote:It’s impossible to take in the full gravity of this story without thinking carefully about how young a 10-year-old is.

Ten-year-olds are of an age when Dr. Benjamin Spock said children are finally prepared “to cross a heavily traveled street without adult supervision.” The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s childhood development guidelines for children this age emphasize that they are still learning to build deep friendships and understand concepts such as responsibility.

They are usually in fourth or fifth grade, depending on when their birthdays fall, and they are being assessed on concepts such as reading comprehension and fractions. They’re at the right age for Pixar movies, but not for Marvel action extravaganzas; they can handle Amelia Bedelia and Willy Wonka and maybe the later Harry Potter books.

Gift guides for 10-year-olds recommend STEM learning toys and plush comfort animals. Ames’s research suggested that 10-year-olds are still learning to tell jokes; that they’re prone to losing or frittering away money; that they think dating is something for the future.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/13/ohio-10-year-old-rape-abortion-childhood/

If you are one of the Democrats who reliably votes Democratic but has always felt that forced birthers really cared about life, you can stop doing that. If you’re a forced birther who voted your forced birther politics with your misogyny a background issue and believed that life was so important, what about the life of the actually living? It’s time to sit with your internalized misogyny. This is an especially heinous example, but think of the misery your forcing your beliefs on women will cause.

My dd is 16, but thinking about her at that age, just, damn. This made me tear up. She literally just texted me asking if I’d order a pillow pet that’s on sale. At 10, she had a bed full of stuffed animals, still pretended to believe in Santa, totally rocked fractions but had trouble remembering where to put the decimal when multiplying, and would still reach for my hand when we crossed the street if her friends weren’t around. She was engrossed in the Warriors cats book series (I remember her crying when one of the cats died), and had stopped reading The Hunger Games series because she didn’t like the violence. There’s no reality, no circumstance, no way of thinking that makes it ok to require her to try to carry a pregnancy to term, deliver a baby, and deal with postpartum care, on top of the trauma of rape. Thinking about her losing her privacy in the process and having to further protect her from conservative a-holes who don’t believe her or think we forced her to commit murder instead of helping her heal, it’s beyond infuriating. It’s like salt in the wound knowing that this isn’t exactly uncommon, and that the frequency goes up among children with special needs.

But they’re more concerned about … I’m not even sure anymore. Seems like they’re hell bent on creating a dystopia. People need to stop voting for the animals that think we should all get to put these kinds of decisions up for votes.

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Anonymous wrote:Even Kessler is being kind of a d|ck about this.

How is being a d!ck? He did his due diligence and he's correct. Too bad all journalists don't get ALL the facts before rushing to judgment.

No he didn’t do his due diligence because he didn’t get the facts, and now he’s being smarmy about it.

No, it is true that no one was able to confirm this story - that's just a fact. You can call people names and sling your insults all you want, but the FACT is that until the rapist was arrested and his name made public, there were NO verifiable facts to go on. Deal with it.

But if you can't confirm because of privacy matters, that is not justification to imply that it isn't true. He could have waited until the allegation was investigated by law enforcement. Do you think they arrested the rapist without confirming that the girl really had been raped and impregnated by someone? Do you think that if no one is arrested, that proves that there was no rape?

And further, lets say that the story was proved not to be true. Do you really think that the circumstances are so outlandish that no story like that would not be true? I mean - we sadly have child rape - that isn't in dispute. 10 year olds can unfortunately get pregnant. And Ohio has put a ban on abortions into place. Why is the story so unbelievable to you that you have to potentially revictimize this child? What do you gain from it?

The cruelty is the point. They are sociopaths.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly there is a very dark strain of misogyny that runs through the GOP. Child rape and sexual molestation and incest are not new. It’s something that even the self-hating women in the movement are okay with, for some of them because it happened to them and they had to lock up that part of their brain and soul to get through.

But for those who are experiencing a crack of humanity in their armor of misogyny, remember what a ten year old is.

Anonymous wrote:It’s impossible to take in the full gravity of this story without thinking carefully about how young a 10-year-old is.

Ten-year-olds are of an age when Dr. Benjamin Spock said children are finally prepared “to cross a heavily traveled street without adult supervision.” The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s childhood development guidelines for children this age emphasize that they are still learning to build deep friendships and understand concepts such as responsibility.

They are usually in fourth or fifth grade, depending on when their birthdays fall, and they are being assessed on concepts such as reading comprehension and fractions. They’re at the right age for Pixar movies, but not for Marvel action extravaganzas; they can handle Amelia Bedelia and Willy Wonka and maybe the later Harry Potter books.

Gift guides for 10-year-olds recommend STEM learning toys and plush comfort animals. Ames’s research suggested that 10-year-olds are still learning to tell jokes; that they’re prone to losing or frittering away money; that they think dating is something for the future.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/13/ohio-10-year-old-rape-abortion-childhood/

If you are one of the Democrats who reliably votes Democratic but has always felt that forced birthers really cared about life, you can stop doing that. If you’re a forced birther who voted your forced birther politics with your misogyny a background issue and believed that life was so important, what about the life of the actually living? It’s time to sit with your internalized misogyny. This is an especially heinous example, but think of the misery your forcing your beliefs on women will cause.

My dd is 16, but thinking about her at that age, just, damn. This made me tear up. She literally just texted me asking if I’d order a pillow pet that’s on sale. At 10, she had a bed full of stuffed animals, still pretended to believe in Santa, totally rocked fractions but had trouble remembering where to put the decimal when multiplying, and would still reach for my hand when we crossed the street if her friends weren’t around. She was engrossed in the Warriors cats book series (I remember her crying when one of the cats died), and had stopped reading The Hunger Games series because she didn’t like the violence. There’s no reality, no circumstance, no way of thinking that makes it ok to require her to try to carry a pregnancy to term, deliver a baby, and deal with postpartum care, on top of the trauma of rape. Thinking about her losing her privacy in the process and having to further protect her from conservative a-holes who don’t believe her or think we forced her to commit murder instead of helping her heal, it’s beyond infuriating. It’s like salt in the wound knowing that this isn’t exactly uncommon, and that the frequency goes up among children with special needs.

But they’re more concerned about … I’m not even sure anymore. Seems like they’re hell bent on creating a dystopia. People need to stop voting for the animals that think we should all get to put these kinds of decisions up for votes.

As someone else put it, "they don't care who gets hurt as long as the sluts get punished."

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If Republicans don't care about children dying in school shootings, they're not going to care about them getting pregnant. It's all God's will.

Red states already have the highest teen pregnancy rate. But it's been declining, so now it can go back up.

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They are now doxxing the doctor who helped the ten year old. They are pure evil.

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The Ohio AG is lying through his teeth.

Is he? Do you have a link to support your claim?

The dna evidence of rape would be the aborted baby. We all know this story is a lie now, but everyone seems ok for this unknown pregnant 10 year old to be raped and impregnated by an adult, the adult never face any charges or legal consequences, apparently.

No, Nancy Drew, the story unfortunately is true. The rapist has been arrested. The Ohio AG, the right-wing media jackals, the forced birth crowd -- YOU WERE ALL WRONG. You wrongly accused a respected physician of lying. And, yes, a little girl was forced to travel to another state so she didn't have to go through a pregnancy and bear her rapist's child.

YOUR CRAZY IDEAS HAVE CAUSED A LITTLE CHILD EVEN MORE PAIN. F YOU.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

A Columbus man has been charged with impregnating a 10-year-old Ohio girl, whose travel to Indiana to seek an abortion led to international attention following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v Wade and activation of Ohio's abortion law.

Gershon Fuentes, 27, whose last known address was an apartment on Columbus' Northwest Side, was arrested Tuesday after police say he confessed to raping the child on at least two occasions. He's since been charged with rape, a felony of the first degree in Ohio.

Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.

Oh God. I believed the story when it first came out. Why wouldn’t I? And when the right wingers said it was a lie, I was so hoping in this case to be owned. I was absolutely happy to think that this particular case wasn’t true. And to find out that the AG was just lying through his teeth in defense of an indefensible political position? So so upsetting. Magas - I wanted you to be right and suspended my disbelief to figure you might have known what you were talking about. But it’s all part of the grift. That poor poor child. Victimized once by the rapist, a second time by the State of Ohio, and a third time by the ugly right wing mob.

And her doctor is going to be put through the wringer.

Yep. Sounds like a pretty convincing way to discourage doctors talking about those inconvenient cases that illustrate how sh!tty the forced birther arguments are.

If nobody talks about the inconvenient horrible cases, they don't exist.
If they do talk about them, then obviously they shouldn't and must be effectively punished.

Damn. It's almost like they want to pretend those cases don't actually happen.

It’s more like they don’t care about the child’s suffering. In their view, a young minor is less likely to be drug addicted and therefore more likely to produce a healthy, adoptable infant. Therefore, they view pregnant children as a net positive for society.

Never forget: "a domestic supply of infants."

You know, when I read the phrase from the opinion, I didn’t think the forced birthers wanted ten-year-olds raped. I knew they had no morals but I did not think they were that low. How wrong I was.

Next they’ll demand that the child marry her rapist.

We know they already insist that the rapist has a right to custody once the victim is forced to carry, nourish and subsequently give birth

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Anonymous wrote:They are now doxxing the doctor who helped the ten year old. They are pure evil.

This is beyond my ability to understand.

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This little girl’s life should not be subject to the whims of voters. Dems need to expand the court so we have enough justices to overturn Dobbs and reaffirm the basic human right to end an unwanted pregnancies. This cannot happen again and again.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now doxxing the doctor who helped the ten year old. They are pure evil.

This is beyond my ability to understand.

Let me explain it: they want to make sure that no future doctor ever dares to publicly say this type of thing happens. They want to avoid any media scrutiny of the effect of their laws.

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Anonymous wrote:They are now doxxing the doctor who helped the ten year old. They are pure evil.

This is beyond my ability to understand.

Let me explain it: they want to make sure that no future doctor ever dares to publicly say this type of thing happens. They want to avoid any media scrutiny of the effect of their laws.

Thank you, that makes sense. I forgot how evil these people are for a minute.