Np- it’s not my child if I don’t carry it to term. Which is my decision. I’m reasons aren’t your business. |
It’s your son or daughter. You weren’t raped, you weren’t a victim of incest. You just don’t want to take care of your child. So into the medical trash he or she goes. |
Giving birth is 14 times more deadly than having an abortion. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-abortion/abortion-safer-than-giving-birth-study-idUSTRE80M2BS20120123 |
DP. How about risks to the woman's life? Does that matter to you? I had an ectopic, and the implications of some of these laws on the care provided to women experiencing ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, etc is disgusting. See the language regarding ectopic pregnancy in the MO law, or the case of Savita Halappanavar and many other women like her, where appropriate medical care was delayed or flat out denied due to "pro-life" rules and regulations. |
So you were successfully treated for your ectopic? The “implications” about ectopic pregnancy and the proposed MO law were propaganda. “The bill sponsor, Branson Republican Rep. Brian Seitz, maintained it was misconstrued by its opponents. He pointed to wording in the bill that the criminal violations occurred only when the abortions were performed “in violation of any state or federal law” – and that it’s legal in Missouri to end ectopic pregnancies. “We removed the devices … and we also removed the language on ectopic pregnancy,” Rep. Jered Taylor, a Republic Republican and committee chair, said. “Those were the two concerns that the committee members shared in committee.” Rep. Wes Rogers, a Kansas City Democrat, said the changes showed that the committee process worked. Many Democrats had “deep and serious concerns” about the original bill, he said.“ https://amp.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article259664605.html
Savita‘s tragic case happened in Ireland. Not the US. “The Health Information and Quality Authority (HIQA) published a report into the incident on 9 October 2013. It found "following the rupture of her membranes, four-hourly observations including temperature, heart rate, respiration and blood pressure did not appear to have been carried out at the required intervals", noting "that though UHG [University Hospital Galway] had a guideline in place for the management of suspected sepsis and sepsis in obstetric care, the clinical governance arrangements were "not robust enough to ensure adherence to this guideline". She unfortunately died of sepsis, and sepsis is a dangerous condition that moves rapidly and kills too many people. It seems that her death is being exploited by pro-abortion activists, and should be more a case of the lack of monitoring by hospitals for sepsis than the cause of abortion rights. If the hospital staff had monitored her for a sepsis (which they didn’t) she probably would have lived. Her spouse emigrated to the US with a 6 figure settlement accepted because hos wife died of medical neglect and didn’t recognize or treat his wife’s sepsis. |
How was it propaganda? How was it misconstrued? They don’t even understand that ectopic pregnancies aren’t viable and the only treatment is for the pregnancy to end (naturally or with medical intervention, and waiting for natural means can cause infertility or death). So explain to me why, if ectopic pregnancy can only be treated with abortions (as they define abortion) why they’d try to make any treatment of ectopic pregnancy with abortion illegal. Please explain to me how it’s misconstruing it to say that was unnecessary and only included to try to limit women’s rights and interfere in medical decisions during a very difficult time in a woman’s life. |
If someone forces me to have a baby, I will scream at it day and night for it's entire life. I will get even with the forced birthers. . |
Now that’s not fair. I specifically asked for the tissue to be donated to science. |
I was. And the treatment I received (methotrexate) has, in some Catholic hospitals, been denied to women experiencing ectopic in favor of surgical removal of the tube and pregnancy...thereby impacting future fertility, meditating a surgical procedure, potentially resulting in blood loss, etc. |
Yes, it is. That’s what the GOP wants: women back in a second class status. The forced birthers come on here and try to gaslight us all, but anyone can see the way the GOP is moving. |
What you write implies the language had to be removed...meaning someone thought it perfectly acceptable to have that language in there in the first place. And, as another PP pointed out, at least one legislator in OH is so clueless he actually thinks ectopics can just be moved. The people writing some of these Bill's are either clueless or heartless...or both. And, yes, I know the Halappanavar case took place in Ireland which, at the time, had strict anti-abortion regulations. What makes you think that could never happen here if Roe is overturned? |
| Let the states decide. Your state your values; your values your state. No need for one size fits all. |
So let's bring back slavery folks! And forget gay marriage or interracial marriage. |
The states that are so gerrymandered that there’s a supermajority GOP legislature despite the R-D vote being 50-50? |