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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The enslavement of women.

That is what this is, plain and simple.[/quote]

No one is forcing women to become pregnant. If you are a woman who doesn’t want to be pregnant, and you get pregnant, that’s not forced pregnancy.

Many forms of bc are 99% reliable. The cast majority of abortions take place because of lifestyle choices. Slavery is different. Unfortunately there are millions of real slaves in the world, mostly poor, 3rd world women and children. Please don’t equate the horrifically brutal plight of slaves to women who don’t use birth control and are shocked pickachu face when they become pregnant. [/quote]

“Should be reliable”.  But you can’t live in the subjunctive. The reality is birth control fails. Men pressure women to have sex without condoms. Not all women can take hormonal birth control. Women sometimes forget to take a pill and don’t realize that one day might make their own hormones take over.

That doesn’t mean they need to be forced through 9 months of physical changes and then the brutal process of giving birth, potentially putting themselves in danger, to bring an unwanted child into the world. [/quote]

That’s not slavery. Abortion is dangerous too, and it kills the woman’s own child. I see how leftists use fetus almost religiously to refer to their own living human child inside them they kill. It’s your child. [/quote]

Np- it’s not my child if I don’t carry it to term. Which is my decision. I’m reasons aren’t your business.[/quote]

It’s your son or daughter. You weren’t raped, you weren’t a victim of incest. You just don’t want to take care of your child. So into the medical trash he or she goes. [/quote]

DP.  How about risks to the woman's life?  Does that matter to you?
I had an ectopic, and the implications of some of these laws on the care provided to women experiencing ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, etc is disgusting.
See the language regarding ectopic pregnancy in the MO law, or the case of Savita Halappanavar and many other women like her, where appropriate medical care was delayed or flat out denied due to "pro-life" rules and regulations.
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So you were successfully treated for your ectopic? The “implications” about ectopic pregnancy and the proposed MO law were propaganda.

“The bill sponsor, Branson Republican Rep. Brian Seitz, maintained it was misconstrued by its opponents. He pointed to wording in the bill that the criminal violations occurred only when the abortions were performed “in violation of any state or federal law” – and that it’s legal in Missouri to end ectopic pregnancies.

“We removed the devices … and we also removed the language on ectopic pregnancy,” Rep. Jered Taylor, a Republic Republican and committee chair, said. “Those were the two concerns that the committee members shared in committee.”

Rep. Wes Rogers, a Kansas City Democrat, said the changes showed that the committee process worked. Many Democrats had “deep and serious concerns” about the original bill, he said.“

https://amp.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article259664605.html

Savita‘s tragic case happened in Ireland. Not the US.

“The Health Information and Quality Authority (HIQA) published a report into the incident on 9 October 2013. It found "following the rupture of her membranes, four-hourly observations including temperature, heart rate, respiration and blood pressure did not appear to have been carried out at the required intervals", noting "that though UHG [University Hospital Galway] had a guideline in place for the management of suspected sepsis and sepsis in obstetric care, the clinical governance arrangements were "not robust enough to ensure adherence to this guideline".

She unfortunately died of sepsis, and sepsis is a dangerous condition that moves rapidly and kills too many people. It seems that her death is being exploited by pro-abortion activists, and should be more a case of the lack of monitoring by hospitals for sepsis than the cause of abortion rights. If the hospital staff had monitored her for a sepsis (which they didn’t) she probably would have lived. Her spouse emigrated to the US with a 6 figure settlement accepted because hos wife died of medical neglect and didn’t recognize or treat his wife’s sepsis. [/quote]

How was it propaganda? How was it misconstrued? They don’t even understand that ectopic pregnancies aren’t viable and the only treatment is for the pregnancy to end (naturally or with medical intervention, and waiting for natural means can cause infertility or death). So explain to me why, if ectopic pregnancy can only be treated with abortions (as they define abortion) why they’d try to make any treatment of ectopic pregnancy with abortion illegal. Please explain to me how it’s misconstruing it to say that was unnecessary and only included to try to limit women’s rights and interfere in medical decisions during a very difficult time in a woman’s life. [/quote]

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