900 unvaccinated DC firefighters could lose their jobs Sept 30

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Eh, I tend to think that a paycheck is a stronger motivator than a shaky anti-vax principle.

I think this is very true.

Look at the anti-vax NFL players. As soon as they lost their first paycheck, they threw in the towel and got the jab.

After being fined $14,650 by the NFL, Bills’ Isaiah McKenzie shows his vaccine card
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/29/isaiah-mckenzie-vaccine-card/


Some people are just stupidly stubborn for the sake of stubbornness. Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ODD).

1 million times this

[Anonymous]

These guys will run into a house that's burning down, but won't take a vaccine? Ok.

Also, virtually none of them will actually quit (and yes, that's a risk the city should be happy to take).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really insane that so many 1st responders across this country are unvaccinated. I think it really speaks to the (undiagnosed) PTSD related to their jobs and how they need dehumanize even themselves to cope with the stress and gore.

These guys will wear protective equipment when they take a call. The vaccine is simply another piece of equipment in your locker to help you get home safely to your family.

Why are so many nurses and nursing home workers unvaccinated? They are at the front lines and seeing all this, and still they don't want the vaccine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly are so many fire fighters refusing to be vaccinated? Is it because they're Republican?

In DC ??

No, not a chance.

Most don't live anywhere near DC. My cousin is a retired firefighter. He lives in Stafford, VA. His colleagues lived in W. Virginia, Fredricksburg, etc. They do 3 day shifts so it's easy to live really far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly are so many fire fighters refusing to be vaccinated? Is it because they're Republican?

In DC ??

No, not a chance.

Most don't live anywhere near DC. My cousin is a retired firefighter. He lives in Stafford, VA. His colleagues lived in W. Virginia, Fredricksburg, etc. They do 3 day shifts so it's easy to live really far.

+1...it is part of the housing affordability issue. The royal 'we" really need to do something that ensures our first responders, teachers etc can live in DC proper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly are so many fire fighters refusing to be vaccinated? Is it because they're Republican?

In DC ??

No, not a chance.

Most don't live anywhere near DC. My cousin is a retired firefighter. He lives in Stafford, VA. His colleagues lived in W. Virginia, Fredricksburg, etc. They do 3 day shifts so it's easy to live really far.

Their shifts are 24-hours, not 72.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's really insane that so many 1st responders across this country are unvaccinated. I think it really speaks to the (undiagnosed) PTSD related to their jobs and how they need dehumanize even themselves to cope with the stress and gore.

These guys will wear protective equipment when they take a call. The vaccine is simply another piece of equipment in your locker to help you get home safely to your family.

Why are so many nurses and nursing home workers unvaccinated? They are at the front lines and seeing all this, and still they don't want the vaccine?

A surprisingly high percentage of nurses are into woo and alternative medicine. There are nurses in my family, and they are always talking about this stuff. At work, they provide the standard of care, but they are not themselves scientists, and many don't have four-year degrees or advanced degrees. They might know a lot about how COVID presents and have experience treating people with COVID, but they don't necessarily know anything more about vaccines than anyone else. Nursing home staff are generally less-educated people who aren't making very much money (one reason it spread so badly in nursing homes is that many workers have to work at more than one home to make ends meet, so they were carrying it from home to home).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly are so many fire fighters refusing to be vaccinated? Is it because they're Republican?

In DC ??

No, not a chance.

Most don't live anywhere near DC. My cousin is a retired firefighter. He lives in Stafford, VA. His colleagues lived in W. Virginia, Fredricksburg, etc. They do 3 day shifts so it's easy to live really far.

+1...it is part of the housing affordability issue. The royal 'we" really need to do something that ensures our first responders, teachers etc can live in DC proper.

What the royal "We" need to do is hire DC residents and require them to live here and subsidize their housing.

[Anonymous]

Most of them probably had Covid. I hope those who support them being fired will step up and replace them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly are so many fire fighters refusing to be vaccinated? Is it because they're Republican?

In DC ??

No, not a chance.

Most don't live anywhere near DC. My cousin is a retired firefighter. He lives in Stafford, VA. His colleagues lived in W. Virginia, Fredricksburg, etc. They do 3 day shifts so it's easy to live really far.

+1...it is part of the housing affordability issue. The royal 'we" really need to do something that ensures our first responders, teachers etc can live in DC proper.

Many of them live in houses just as expensive as homes in DC. But if you want 3000 sf instead of 1800, you want to have land and an ATV and go hunting and fishing and own a boat or an RV, and (for some of them) you want to be around mostly white folks or send your kids to what you see as better schools, you're not going to live in DC even if you got a 50% raise. DC can do more to recruit DC residents for these jobs and give them preference, and even require people who get jobs through these pathways to live in the city. But the unions, which are made up of folks who live far away, aren't going to be happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why exactly are so many fire fighters refusing to be vaccinated? Is it because they're Republican?

In DC ??

No, not a chance.

Most don't live anywhere near DC. My cousin is a retired firefighter. He lives in Stafford, VA. His colleagues lived in W. Virginia, Fredricksburg, etc. They do 3 day shifts so it's easy to live really far.

+1...it is part of the housing affordability issue. The royal 'we" really need to do something that ensures our first responders, teachers etc can live in DC proper.

Many of them live in houses just as expensive as homes in DC. But if you want 3000 sf instead of 1800, you want to have land and an ATV and go hunting and fishing and own a boat or an RV, and (for some of them) you want to be around mostly white folks or send your kids to what you see as better schools, you're not going to live in DC even if you got a 50% raise. DC can do more to recruit DC residents for these jobs and give them preference, and even require people who get jobs through these pathways to live in the city. But the unions, which are made up of folks who live far away, aren't going to be happy.

This - it's cultural. They see cities as a necessary evil for a paycheck and then go run back to the country with their big city money. It's a total grift and if they quit, I will be happy. The white-dominated unions have shut A LOT of DC locals out of these jobs.

-DC Taxpayer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's really insane that so many 1st responders across this country are unvaccinated. I think it really speaks to the (undiagnosed) PTSD related to their jobs and how they need dehumanize even themselves to cope with the stress and gore.

These guys will wear protective equipment when they take a call. The vaccine is simply another piece of equipment in your locker to help you get home safely to your family.

Why are so many nurses and nursing home workers unvaccinated? They are at the front lines and seeing all this, and still they don't want the vaccine?

A surprisingly high percentage of nurses are into woo and alternative medicine. There are nurses in my family, and they are always talking about this stuff. At work, they provide the standard of care, but they are not themselves scientists, and many don't have four-year degrees or advanced degrees. They might know a lot about how COVID presents and have experience treating people with COVID, but they don't necessarily know anything more about vaccines than anyone else. Nursing home staff are generally less-educated people who aren't making very much money (one reason it spread so badly in nursing homes is that many workers have to work at more than one home to make ends meet, so they were carrying it from home to home).

They are not a full nurse if they don’t have a 4 year degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's really insane that so many 1st responders across this country are unvaccinated. I think it really speaks to the (undiagnosed) PTSD related to their jobs and how they need dehumanize even themselves to cope with the stress and gore.

These guys will wear protective equipment when they take a call. The vaccine is simply another piece of equipment in your locker to help you get home safely to your family.

Why are so many nurses and nursing home workers unvaccinated? They are at the front lines and seeing all this, and still they don't want the vaccine?

A surprisingly high percentage of nurses are into woo and alternative medicine. There are nurses in my family, and they are always talking about this stuff. At work, they provide the standard of care, but they are not themselves scientists, and many don't have four-year degrees or advanced degrees. They might know a lot about how COVID presents and have experience treating people with COVID, but they don't necessarily know anything more about vaccines than anyone else. Nursing home staff are generally less-educated people who aren't making very much money (one reason it spread so badly in nursing homes is that many workers have to work at more than one home to make ends meet, so they were carrying it from home to home).

They are not a full nurse if they don’t have a 4 year degree.

An RN is just a two-year degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Nope.

You see there is a waitlist of people wanting that job. Yay. They will now be moved up. The old boys club will be trashed. Fun stuff.

Let them go idiots.

Firefighters are overpaid PUBLIC funded employees. Their unions fight to keep their pay hire and WMT pay low (who just happen to be more women and people of color). It’s an old boys club racket and I am hear for this. Same with Police. PUBLIC funds, my money, your money.

Get the vaccine or find another line of work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Nope.

You see there is a waitlist of people wanting that job. Yay. They will now be moved up. The old boys club will be trashed. Fun stuff.

Let them go idiots.

Firefighters are overpaid PUBLIC funded employees. Their unions fight to keep their pay hire and EMT pay low (who just happen to be more women and people of color). It’s an old boys club racket and I am hear for this. Same with Police. PUBLIC funds, my money, your money.

Get the vaccine or find another line of work.

EMT