900 unvaccinated DC firefighters could lose their jobs Sept 30

[Anonymous]

Firing the anti vax dc firefighters could bring much needed diversity to the force.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure DC will have no problem replacing them and this won't in anyway turn into a clusterf%^k that exacerbates the cities problems

If you think people are just lining up to work as firefighters in DC, you're completely out of touch with reality.

Are you kidding? Paid firefighting is one of the most competitive industries there is. You basically have to be related to a current firefighter to even have a chance to get hired.

Wrong. A few years back, I proctored the entry-level firefighter exam for DCFEMS. It was held at the Convention Center due to so many people registered for the examination. People flew i from as far away as Seattle, Washington. DC firefighters are paid well. At one time their salaries and benefits were better than NYFD. I do not know about now, but then it was. The firefighters would work 8-days a month, minus any voluntary overtime. Very few live in the city, mostly VA, PA, MD and WVA. I knew one BFC who lived in NC and would fly in and out of DC every 72-hours. The union is very strong and at least at one point they had a lobbyist on the Hill. The retirement benefits for many were in the six-figures, so yeah, people are lining up to work as firefighters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it’s not just white,Trump-loving firefighters who will lose their jobs. Lots of black folks are vaccine hesitant as well.

But I don’t care. Either way:

If you don’t get vaxed, you should get axed.

You'll care when there are not enough EMS/ff.

Once again, that won’t happen, especially for firefighters. They are sought after jobs with more applicants than they can hire for a well paying job that does not require a degree.

Hiring the people will not be the problem. Thousands are interested in being on the DC FEMS payroll. It is getting so many people through the grueling training in a timely manner which will cause a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Firing the anti vax dc firefighters could bring much needed diversity to the force.

Wrong. There is a lot of vaccine hesitancy among African Americans - over 40 percent are reluctant to take the vaccine, according to one survey.

https://www.rand.org/news/press/2021/03/01.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Firing the anti vax dc firefighters could bring much needed diversity to the force.

Not sure where you’re trying to go with this, but DCFD was a little less than 50% Black ten years ago at the time of this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/15/AR2010101506275.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing the anti vax dc firefighters could bring much needed diversity to the force.

Wrong. There is a lot of vaccine hesitancy among African Americans - over 40 percent are reluctant to take the vaccine, according to one survey.

https://www.rand.org/news/press/2021/03/01.html

That puts them in line with the over 40% of any Americans who are reluctant to take the vaccine. Your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing the anti vax dc firefighters could bring much needed diversity to the force.

Wrong. There is a lot of vaccine hesitancy among African Americans - over 40 percent are reluctant to take the vaccine, according to one survey.

https://www.rand.org/news/press/2021/03/01.html

That puts them in line with the over 40% of any Americans who are reluctant to take the vaccine. Your point?

My point is that the PP implied that it will just be white FF who will be fired for resisting the vaccine. I was noting that vaccine hesitancy is not one of those issues that breaks down on along racial lines. So it's not likely, as the PP implied, that the firings will result in more diversity. It may have little impact on diversity. The PP also made assumptions about who would be hired as replacements FFs that may also be based on false assumptions.

[Anonymous]

So the deadline is soon. Any change on this?

[Anonymous]

It’s September 30. Are there still many holdouts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Actually, If I’m inhaling smoke and medically vulnerable, the LAST thing I want is to get Covid from the idiot fire fighter. Besides if he’s anti science for vaccines, I would wonder what other anti-science views he might have. Maybe he thinks there are tracking chips in oxygen?

Good Riddance!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Actually, If I’m inhaling smoke and medically vulnerable, the LAST thing I want is to get Covid from the idiot fire fighter. Besides if he’s anti science for vaccines, I would wonder what other anti-science views he might have. Maybe he thinks there are tracking chips in oxygen?

Good Riddance!

Wait. What? If you’re in an emergency situation … You’d rather die of smoke inhalation because there aren’t enough firefighters? There isn’t a 100% chance of catching it when exposed to someone with it and that assumes the unvaxxed firefighter rescuing you even has it. And if they already had it they have some immunity.

You make no sense. You’d rather a trained pro stand and watch you die in a fire than help you. Yeah, right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Actually, If I’m inhaling smoke and medically vulnerable, the LAST thing I want is to get Covid from the idiot fire fighter. Besides if he’s anti science for vaccines, I would wonder what other anti-science views he might have. Maybe he thinks there are tracking chips in oxygen?

Good Riddance!

Wait. What? If you’re in an emergency situation … You’d rather die of smoke inhalation because there aren’t enough firefighters? There isn’t a 100% chance of catching it when exposed to someone with it and that assumes the unvaxxed firefighter rescuing you even has it. And if they already had it they have some immunity.

You make no sense. You’d rather a trained pro stand and watch you die in a fire than help you. Yeah, right.

It's a moot point. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of qualified candidates begging to take their place. As the PP mentioned, the last time DCFD had a hiring event they had to use the Convention Center because there were so many applicants.

Any firefighters who quit due to vaccine will be replaced before they can clean out their locker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Actually, If I’m inhaling smoke and medically vulnerable, the LAST thing I want is to get Covid from the idiot fire fighter. Besides if he’s anti science for vaccines, I would wonder what other anti-science views he might have. Maybe he thinks there are tracking chips in oxygen?

Good Riddance!

Wait. What? If you’re in an emergency situation … You’d rather die of smoke inhalation because there aren’t enough firefighters? There isn’t a 100% chance of catching it when exposed to someone with it and that assumes the unvaxxed firefighter rescuing you even has it. And if they already had it they have some immunity.

You make no sense. You’d rather a trained pro stand and watch you die in a fire than help you. Yeah, right.

It's a moot point. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of qualified candidates begging to take their place. As the PP mentioned, the last time DCFD had a hiring event they had to use the Convention Center because there were so many applicants.

Any firefighters who quit due to vaccine will be replaced before they can clean out their locker.

It may be a moot point assuming the PP lives in the district. But the point is not moot when it comes to the attitude. See comments elsewhere about Nebraska and New York nurses and other health care providers.

[Anonymous]

So. What happened? Did they get vaxxed or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is great until your house burns down or you need to be extricated from a totaled car. I’m pro-vax, but I think this is going to backfire.

Actually, If I’m inhaling smoke and medically vulnerable, the LAST thing I want is to get Covid from the idiot fire fighter. Besides if he’s anti science for vaccines, I would wonder what other anti-science views he might have. Maybe he thinks there are tracking chips in oxygen?

Good Riddance!

Wait. What? If you’re in an emergency situation … You’d rather die of smoke inhalation because there aren’t enough firefighters? There isn’t a 100% chance of catching it when exposed to someone with it and that assumes the unvaxxed firefighter rescuing you even has it. And if they already had it they have some immunity.

You make no sense. You’d rather a trained pro stand and watch you die in a fire than help you. Yeah, right.

It's a moot point. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of qualified candidates begging to take their place. As the PP mentioned, the last time DCFD had a hiring event they had to use the Convention Center because there were so many applicants.

Any firefighters who quit due to vaccine will be replaced before they can clean out their locker.

Keep dreaming that there are replacements lined up. It would take a year to get them hired and trained.