My Unorthodox Life on Netflix

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll answer here to the best of my ability. Pp who actually grew up with no movies or secular books and is annoyed and slightly amused by Julia (we knew her as Talia Leibov)

I am curious how someone who claims to know this woman happened to be on DCUM and land in this thread.

I like reading DCUM. I have internet access. This is a public forum, why can't i read it?
Some threads make me happy to have grown up as strictly as I did!

An earlier pp said she was the talk of Jewish and Orthodox forums which makes sense to me given the show is controversial. I am on episode 2 and have issues with her (why can't Bat have her own beliefs and work her marriage her way? Miriam seems heavily influenced by mom which seems like another form of brainwashing) and I was raised as a Baptist but am not very religious.

I find it weird that you claim to know her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll answer here to the best of my ability. Pp who actually grew up with no movies or secular books and is annoyed and slightly amused by Julia (we knew her as Talia Leibov)

I am curious how someone who claims to know this woman happened to be on DCUM and land in this thread.

I like reading DCUM. I have internet access. This is a public forum, why can't i read it?
Some threads make me happy to have grown up as strictly as I did!

An earlier pp said she was the talk of Jewish and Orthodox forums which makes sense to me given the show is controversial. I am on episode 2 and have issues with her (why can't Bat have her own beliefs and work her marriage her way? Miriam seems heavily influenced by mom which seems like another form of brainwashing) and I was raised as a Baptist but am not very religious.

I find it weird that you claim to know her.

The ultra orthodox community is very well connected. Many people attended the Bais yaakov of Monsey plays she performed it. She was well known, many people know her. I'm not close to her or her family or anything

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is Haredi? How is it different from Hassidic Judaism?

Haredi is more general. It subdivides into strict Sephardic, Hassidic, and what we call Litvish/ yeshivisg which are distinct ultra orthodox cultures.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

I will stop answering soon until 9:15 tomorrow earliest (Shabbat ends 9 something)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll answer here to the best of my ability. Pp who actually grew up with no movies or secular books and is annoyed and slightly amused by Julia (we knew her as Talia Leibov)

I am curious how someone who claims to know this woman happened to be on DCUM and land in this thread.

Different Orthodox poster. This show is the is the subject of many threads in Jewish groups and forums, including Orthodox ones.

PP. I'll call myself OJ2. My husband and I are Modern Orthodox, but my children attend a school that I would describe as open-minded ultra-Orthodox. I have no connection to Monsey or Julia.

Welcome OJ2. I've always wondering how you would view people like Julia's daughter, who is not following all the rules but considers herself somewhat religious. Apologies for not fully understanding but I grew up in a very religious Christian household and in my community, people who were not "Christian" in the same way were looked down on and not seen as "truly" Christian. Would it be the same for Julia's daughter since she isn't full immersed in the culture anymore?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will stop answering soon until 9:15 tomorrow earliest (Shabbat ends 9 something)

This is OJ1 (thanks oj2 for the title)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll answer here to the best of my ability. Pp who actually grew up with no movies or secular books and is annoyed and slightly amused by Julia (we knew her as Talia Leibov)

I am curious how someone who claims to know this woman happened to be on DCUM and land in this thread.

I like reading DCUM. I have internet access. This is a public forum, why can't i read it?
Some threads make me happy to have grown up as strictly as I did!

An earlier pp said she was the talk of Jewish and Orthodox forums which makes sense to me given the show is controversial. I am on episode 2 and have issues with her (why can't Bat have her own beliefs and work her marriage her way? Miriam seems heavily influenced by mom which seems like another form of brainwashing) and I was raised as a Baptist but am not very religious.

I find it weird that you claim to know her.

The ultra orthodox community is very well connected. Many people attended the Bais yaakov of Monsey plays she performed it. She was well known, many people know her. I'm not close to her or her family or anything

I guess I read it as you two were buddies and now I see you are saying you know who she is because the circles are small. Got it. She irks me on this show so I can't imagine how she comes off up close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will stop answering soon until 9:15 tomorrow earliest (Shabbat ends 9 something)

Okay have a good Shabbat. Thanks for the answers!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm an ultra orthodox woman. I was debating responding but I'll give it a shot
The issue most of my friends have isn't that Julia is making up things that never happen. There are plenty of sources for the hell boiling water (not acid) modesty punishment and yes, well, wait til you find out what fundamentalist Muslims and Christians believe.

The problem is we know her. We grew up with her. She did not come from a community like the one she describes. It's like the Nigerian prime minister coming to Harvard and speaking about his difficult life in inner city Chicago.

I disagree. I know this community very well. While some girls are educated most are not. Most married off at 18 to men they barely know. She is correct the "programming" is loud and clear.

My cousin is part of this community. Her first husband (matchmaker marriage) beat the crap out of her over and over again. Getting her GET was extremely difficult. She finally got one and remarried within the community. Do you understand how awful that was? The community was more concerned about him than her. Forgive me for thinking she's still in a cult.

The modesty thing they are literally slut-shaming her on FB today over and over again. For people who claim to be so "religious," their behavior today has been horrific.

Jew here, that community is a cult. Period, end stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm an ultra orthodox woman. I was debating responding but I'll give it a shot
The issue most of my friends have isn't that Julia is making up things that never happen. There are plenty of sources for the hell boiling water (not acid) modesty punishment and yes, well, wait til you find out what fundamentalist Muslims and Christians believe.

The problem is we know her. We grew up with her. She did not come from a community like the one she describes. It's like the Nigerian prime minister coming to Harvard and speaking about his difficult life in inner city Chicago.

Is it true that you are not allowed to take BCP? She said she had to hide her birth control. She also said that, as the oldest, she was expected to raise her other 7 brothers and sisters. Is this also true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an ultra orthodox woman. I was debating responding but I'll give it a shot
The issue most of my friends have isn't that Julia is making up things that never happen. There are plenty of sources for the hell boiling water (not acid) modesty punishment and yes, well, wait til you find out what fundamentalist Muslims and Christians believe.

The problem is we know her. We grew up with her. She did not come from a community like the one she describes. It's like the Nigerian prime minister coming to Harvard and speaking about his difficult life in inner city Chicago.

I disagree. I know this community very well. While some girls are educated most are not. Most married off at 18 to men they barely know. She is correct the "programming" is loud and clear.

My cousin is part of this community. Her first husband (matchmaker marriage) beat the crap out of her over and over again. Getting her GET was extremely difficult. She finally got one and remarried within the community. Do you understand how awful that was? The community was more concerned about him than her. Forgive me for thinking she's still in a cult.

The modesty thing they are literally slut-shaming her on FB today over and over again. For people who claim to be so "religious," their behavior today has been horrific.

Jew here, that community is a cult. Period, end stop.

Oj1
You are lumping several communities together. Most girls in Julia's high school went to seminary and got degrees and married between 19-25. 18 would be a lot more Haredi then she grew up.

As for matchmaker, every Haredi subtype has its own systems for matchmaking. I'm sorry your relative had a bad experience. I hope she finds peace.

I dated my husband around 10 x and then we got engaged, which is pretty typical. We are a happy couple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an ultra orthodox woman. I was debating responding but I'll give it a shot
The issue most of my friends have isn't that Julia is making up things that never happen. There are plenty of sources for the hell boiling water (not acid) modesty punishment and yes, well, wait til you find out what fundamentalist Muslims and Christians believe.

The problem is we know her. We grew up with her. She did not come from a community like the one she describes. It's like the Nigerian prime minister coming to Harvard and speaking about his difficult life in inner city Chicago.

Is it true that you are not allowed to take BCP? She said she had to hide her birth control. She also said that, as the oldest, she was expected to raise her other 7 brothers and sisters. Is this also true?

Oj1 last answer until tomorrow night

No. Most people ask a rabbi to decide. I take bcp and actually have an iud all rabbinically approved! I've never hidden it and would switch rabbis if they didn't understand my personal challenges.

As for raising siblings, that seems dysfunctional and i would say that orthodox families have the same spectrum of dysfunction as the outside world. Which is to say some are happy some are fighting some have a borderline parent etc... So yes I'm sure that exists but it isn't a community expectation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an ultra orthodox woman. I was debating responding but I'll give it a shot
The issue most of my friends have isn't that Julia is making up things that never happen. There are plenty of sources for the hell boiling water (not acid) modesty punishment and yes, well, wait til you find out what fundamentalist Muslims and Christians believe.

The problem is we know her. We grew up with her. She did not come from a community like the one she describes. It's like the Nigerian prime minister coming to Harvard and speaking about his difficult life in inner city Chicago.

I disagree. I know this community very well. While some girls are educated most are not. Most married off at 18 to men they barely know. She is correct the "programming" is loud and clear.

My cousin is part of this community. Her first husband (matchmaker marriage) beat the crap out of her over and over again. Getting her GET was extremely difficult. She finally got one and remarried within the community. Do you understand how awful that was? The community was more concerned about him than her. Forgive me for thinking she's still in a cult.

The modesty thing they are literally slut-shaming her on FB today over and over again. For people who claim to be so "religious," their behavior today has been horrific.

Jew here, that community is a cult. Period, end stop.

Oj1
You are lumping several communities together. Most girls in Julia's high school went to seminary and got degrees and married between 19-25. 18 would be a lot more Haredi then she grew up.

As for matchmaker, every Haredi subtype has its own systems for matchmaking. I'm sorry your relative had a bad experience. I hope she finds peace.

I dated my husband around 10 x and then we got engaged, which is pretty typical. We are a happy couple.

What does 10x mean? Did you sleep together before getting engaged?

[Anonymous]

Oj1 i saw that one - we met 10 times. No we didn't touch until marriage. This is typical.

[Anonymous]

I am early on and maybe I missed it but does she still practice Judaism but just not the way she was raised or whatever?