My Unorthodox Life on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Still working my way through the season, but she seems way too involved with Robert.

Is that her real hair?

Oj1. I assume so unless she said otherwise

Julia references wigs a lot. Her sister was wearing a wig, I believe. Does that count as hair covering?

Yes, it is very common to wear wigs as head coverings especially if you interact with the secular world. Only a few groups forbid wigs. Many forbid lace fronts which look too natural.

What is a lace front wig?

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I found this show very interesting. I also liked Julia’s closet and office.

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Anonymous wrote:Still working my way through the season, but she seems way too involved with Robert.

Is that her real hair?

Oj1. I assume so unless she said otherwise

Julia references wigs a lot. Her sister was wearing a wig, I believe. Does that count as hair covering?

Yes, it is very common to wear wigs as head coverings especially if you interact with the secular world. Only a few groups forbid wigs. Many forbid lace fronts which look too natural.

What is a lace front wig?

Oj1. A new type of wig (well new to the orthodox community) that looks extremely natural. I'm not sure exactly what it is but you can usually tell when someone is wearing a wig, but not if they're wearing a lace front

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I mean this question respectfully its somethings I’ve always wondered. How is the hiding of hair with a replica of hair meeting the religious need of hair covering? it is more easy for me to understand Head scarf or other head wrap then a wig that looks just like your real hair would look. Again sincere question I’m sure religious leaders have evaluated I’m hoping someone can explain to me (non Jew)

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen two episodes thus far, but can we talk about the husband and his wealth?

Julia is leaving A LOT out of her story. In the first two episodes, they make her seems like a self-made single mom who thrived despite her upbringing.

However, Silvio - her husband - is one of the richest telecom execs in Italy. He started the first broadband ISP, which he sold for $5.7B to Swisscom (his ownership was worth over $1B in 2007).

Using that money, he bought Elite World Group group in 2011
In 2013, he buys La Perla for 60m euros.

In 2013, Julia leaves her husband.

In 2016, Julia’s shoe line collaborated with La Perla. She becomes creative director of La Perla
In 2018, she becomes head of Elite World Group.
In 2019, Julia ans Silvio are married.

The husband has immense financial power over the kids and family. I guarantee we are not getting the whole story.

Absolutely. I am Jewish and not orthodox. I grew up "observant" conservative ( not to be confused with politically conservative, I mean Conservative synagogue as opposed to orthodox or reform). I am now, as an older adult, culturally Jewish, not observant at all, as in completely and
entirely secular.

Having said that, I am very, very familiar with orthodoxy, understand the various differences which is hard to explain to others. Not all orthodox is Hassidic, there
are even different Hassidic sects with different practices, modern orthodox is also different, Yesivish is different, etc. It's not going to be explained here, really. One has to experience the cultures, the areas, the schools, the shuls. I am very familiar with Monsey Yeshivish.

I work and live among the Yeshivish orthodox here in this area. I have family in this type of culture. My response to this program will probably surprise most.

I think this show is actually doing a huge disservice to what they appear to want to do- which is probably to denigrate the strict and fundamentalist culture and show what it looks like to break away. Look, I am no fan of orthodoxy. At all. And many of the take aways are true...the role of women, poor education, the " baby making" , arranged marriages, lack of sexual education, racism, and no acceptance of homosexuality at all. And, yeah, they are all largely Trumpers, just to add that in, for
reasons that are too ridiculous and scary to go into here. Sure, however, what I see in Julia's new world is also a cult. A cult of narcissism, extravagance of everything, lookism, skinny models, fake relationships, transactional relationships just to get started. I'm kind of disgusted that this is being touted as what's out there for the orthodox if only they would stop allowing themselves to be brainwashed. Really? She keeps using the word "brainwashed," yet isn't that what she's doing to her kids, too? She doesn't really have the right to interfere in her daughter's marriage, or her younger son's choices. That's for them to decide.

Julia's world is not an example of the entire secular world, or even most of it. She is an example of a segment made up in the IG social media world which promotes her lifestyle, and not all corners of the IG or secular world look like this. None of my friends start frenching with their husband upon greeting, my kids don't " make out" with a date at a business function, my boobs aren't continually overflowing my shirt everywhere, and we all don't drive Bentleys or anything close. Her relationship and sexual tutelage of her children is inappropriate, and I am non-religious, not a prude in any sense, and left leaning as they come. I found those discussions super weird.

Does she eat? She's had 4 children and she wears a 0. She learned about eating disorders from her previous world ( yes, it's a thing in the community), but really ratcheted it up for her next one where starving is an art form. Not really impressed, to be frank. I give her credit for having the guts to leave her unhappy marriage, her religious life that she couldn't endure, and starting her own life, but her $$$$ and empire comes from her new husband. She just traded one cult for another.

Lastly, she and the Kardashians have GOT to stop saying "literally." This is, though, LITERALLY one of the worst examples of people leaving an insular lifestyle, but, also, it needs to be fair and it isnt. The information given about the Monsey community, or the Baltimore, or Silver Spring, or wherever...is very out of context. I sure don't want to live like that, but the people are not monsters nor are they stupid and deluded. The reason cultures exist is very complex, it's just not that black and white. There should be more general information regarding families and community, with real examination of the people involved- they can't just be dismissed as black hatters and wig wearers vs mini skirts, bisexuality, and porn.

I also feel as though her children might be exploited in this show. The entire show makes me uncomfortable, and I was hoping to see some genuine exploration of lifestyle and culture.

Rating: No stars given.

I want to lift up this comments. My story is not so dissimilar, opa. And I agree with you 100%. Except I don't have a perspective regarding the word literally because I don't watch the Kardashians

I have family in different cults/strict religious adherence. The Mormons, traditional Catholic and I agree with a lot here. I have a cousin who married Jewish but not Orthodox. This show actually makes her looks dumb. She did replace her religious values only to make a religion of promiscuity of her daughters. Personally I think this is worse than the religious one. Most secular people would not understand. I think conservative (meaning religious background) families in general have healthier and more well adjusted kids. Sure there’s issues, but not more so than the worlds issues. Most secular things are a cause of many societies problems. I understand the better treatment of women, but little progress in society has been done after that.

I agree her husband is the source of her success. I mean she’s smart, and obviously talented but with no $$, this show would have been of less interest or harder to do. It’s again typical of the world. Go women but technically she slept her way there. Looking at you Kamala.

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I’m just here to say that Courtney Cox should have gone to Julia’s plastic surgeon.

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I’ve been binging the show over the last week and I’m really quite impressed with Julia and how far she has come in such a short time without the education or experience top CEOs typically have.

I love that her children are all very close friends, and that she has such a seemingly positive coparenting arrangement with her ex-husband. Her youngest son is so poised and intelligent, too.

It’s impressive that despite Julia and her new husband literally being billionaires, that the three adult children have great work ethics, genuinely seem to want to be involved with the company and further their careers and education outside of the company, not just land jobs due to nepotism and screw around doing nothing. And Robert is terrific.

Would definitely watch another season!

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Batshava and Ben broke up, not entirely surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:Batshava and Ben broke up, not entirely surprised.

Oh that’s too bad. I’m actually surprised by that.

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I’m surprised too. Both admitted they got married way too young, but they seemed to have formed a really solid relationship. Wish for them both to find happiness.

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Ben is going to be so bummed he can't live the billionaire lifestyle he had going with the Haarts. He was so into it on the show. Kinda feel bad for him.

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That really does stink about them. I thought they were mostly a good match. I was surprised how much I liked the series, and I loved how close the siblings are.

Miriam just ran the New York City Marathon. It’s so refreshing to see children of millionaires making so many professional and personal goals!

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Divorce + fired + restraining orders ....Oh my!

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/julia-haart-blindsided-fired-from-elite-world-group-amid-split/

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Anonymous wrote:Divorce + fired + restraining orders ....Oh my!

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/julia-haart-blindsided-fired-from-elite-world-group-amid-split/

WHOA! I mean, I thought their relationship looked weird and they never seemed to be together, but that was fast!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Divorce + fired + restraining orders ....Oh my!

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/julia-haart-blindsided-fired-from-elite-world-group-amid-split/

WHOA! I mean, I thought their relationship looked weird and they never seemed to be together, but that was fast!!!

It's pretty juicy for sure

https://pagesix.com/2022/02/11/julia-haarts-husband-accuses-her-of-stealing-850k/?fbclid=IwAR0mFozfRD4ERT_dBQwIrPVnSMtJuTgiO5IM-yrfg1GKWi9xGP-KVyl1MRA