Georgia Senate voting to end absentee balloting

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to explain how restricting absentee voting to those who actually qualify constitutes "cheating."

This is exactly how it was in VA for years.

All you had to do in VA was fill out a form and say you would be out of town during the actual election (or select one of the other reasons), and you qualified for the absentee ballot. It sounds like this Georgia law is more restrictive though.

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof[/quote

In other words states with abysmal civil rights records can craft ways to limit the easy access to voting so it is harder for marginalized citizens to vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

In other words states with abysmal civil rights records can craft ways to limit the easy access to voting so it is harder for marginalized citizens to vote.

Yes, and Roberts & Company gutted the Voting Rights Act so there may not be a way to stop this without passing the new one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is gonna backfire hugely on the republicans.
People take their vote for granted, until it’s taken away.
This will motivate democratic base.

Prior to this election, absentee ballots were a huge advantage to Republicans. They invested years in educating their voters to use absentee ballots so that their votes were banked before Election Day. Democrats always had to hope their voters made it to the polls on that one day regardless of weather, or work schedules, or whatever. The pandemic election was a blip in that dynamic. Republican political operatives were aghast when Trump started questioning the integrity of mail-in voting, suppressing their own votes, and undoing years of party GOTV work.

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

In other words states with abysmal civil rights records can craft ways to limit the easy access to voting so it is harder for marginalized citizens to vote.

Yes, and Roberts & Company gutted the Voting Rights Act so there may not be a way to stop this without passing the new one.

Roberts will one day sit in hell with Trump and Moscow Mitch, his crimes have been so great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They can’t win without cheating.

That post doesn’t tweak your irony bone? Just a little? 🤣

You think disenfranchisement is funny? I guess it’s true that Republicans have no sense of humor if cruelty makes you laugh.

[Anonymous]

I tend to think these voter suppression tactics are going to start backfiring on the GOP. These measures worked for years because the GOP base was middle and upper class whites who regularly voted, have proper IDs, have easy transportation to polls, etc. Those people are more and more now Democrats. Republicans tend to be working class and rural whites, who have many of the same issues with voting that blacks traditionally have had.

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

Looks like you missed part of that quote. It says

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations,

So I’m sure you will have no problem when the Democratically controlled congress overrides GAs rules with universal mail in ballots. It’s in the constitution after all...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think these voter suppression tactics are going to start backfiring on the GOP. These measures worked for years because the GOP base was middle and upper class whites who regularly voted, have proper IDs, have easy transportation to polls, etc. Those people are more and more now Democrats. Republicans tend to be working class and rural whites, who have many of the same issues with voting that blacks traditionally have had.

The Georgia GOP doesn't seem to understand this yet. Why? I have no idea.

One of my (white) family members, who consistently votes republican, can't even figure out how to get proper identification in order to get their real id / drivers license in rural VA.

The GOP "base" is becoming so uneducated now that these measures to prevent the poor from voting are going to backfire sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They can’t win without cheating.

That post doesn’t tweak your irony bone? Just a little? 🤣

You think disenfranchisement is funny? I guess it’s true that Republicans have no sense of humor if cruelty makes you laugh.

PP didn't say "funny bone." She said "irony bone." And, I couldn't agree with her more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

Looks like you missed part of that quote. It says

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations,

So I’m sure you will have no problem when the Democratically controlled congress overrides GAs rules with universal mail in ballots. It’s in the constitution after all...

Democrats in the Senate will need to trigger the Nuclear Option to get this done. They will need to eliminate the filibuster, because there's zero chance any Republicans - let alone 10 - will cross the line to make voting easier. That's how radicalized the GOP has become.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

Looks like you missed part of that quote. It says

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations,

So I’m sure you will have no problem when the Democratically controlled congress overrides GAs rules with universal mail in ballots. It’s in the constitution after all...

They'll never get the votes needed to make that happen..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They can’t win without cheating.

That post doesn’t tweak your irony bone? Just a little? 🤣

You think disenfranchisement is funny? I guess it’s true that Republicans have no sense of humor if cruelty makes you laugh.

PP didn't say "funny bone." She said "irony bone." And, I couldn't agree with her more.

You’re so busy agreeing that you missed the laughing emoji.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

In other words states with abysmal civil rights records can craft ways to limit the easy access to voting so it is harder for marginalized citizens to vote.

Yes, and Roberts & Company gutted the Voting Rights Act so there may not be a way to stop this without passing the new one.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Where in the constitution does it say only the resourceful can vote? I must've missed that part.

Where in the constitution does it say that state legislatures determine how voting occurs in their state?
Oh. That would be Article I Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof

Looks like you missed part of that quote. It says

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations,

So I’m sure you will have no problem when the Democratically controlled congress overrides GAs rules with universal mail in ballots. It’s in the constitution after all...

It seems that all the posters here claiming "cheating" are unaware that state legislatures set voting laws for their state.