Having dinner and then eating at noon, is not fasting

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it, but I lost 8 lbs by "skipping breakfast" and have never been leaner. If you do a search, you will find that many reputable institutions, such as Harvard and Duke, have done studies on IF. IF is defined as going at least 14 hours without eating for a woman and 16 hours for a man.

Why the gender difference? And I would've thought the other way...

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if it is or isn’t?

Pretty much. So someone skipped breakfast. And.....? Or lunch or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it, but I lost 8 lbs by "skipping breakfast" and have never been leaner. If you do a search, you will find that many reputable institutions, such as Harvard and Duke, have done studies on IF. IF is defined as going at least 14 hours without eating for a woman and 16 hours for a man.

Why the gender difference? And I would've thought the other way...

Metabolism, I think.

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I agree. I dont eat breakfast. Never did cos i dont feel hungry first time in the morning. Now its a thing called intermittent fasting apparently.
I have done 24 hour days fasts and its completely different.

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My brother has only eaten a big breakfast and a big dinner his entire adult life, something like noon and midnight. (He works 3-11). I don't know how someone cannot be hungry for 12 hours, but he is not. Is this also IF? or just "skipping lunch"?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the intermittent fasting craze is just people who want to severely restrict calories and/or be obsessive about their food in an "acceptable" way vs. being labeled as having an eating disorder.

THANK YOU.

Except that most people who do it are overweight and need to severely restrict calories to lose weight effectively. Or they are a tiny bit plumper than they prefer and have to go the scorched earth route to lose any weight.

I dont IF, but I like to diet before vacations so that I can eat whatever I want. I am already slim (BMI at 19) so if I want to move the scale at all, I have to severely restrict calories. That isn't disordered eating. Disordered would be prolonged dieting the point of nutritional deficiency, overeating to the point of excess weight, or using techniques like throwing up that can destroy organs. Eating one meal a day- that's just a calorie control technique.

Why are you wanting to move the scale any direction but up with a BMI of 19? Vacation or otherwise, you do realize you are teetering on being underweight and shouldn't be trying to lose weight ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My brother has only eaten a big breakfast and a big dinner his entire adult life, something like noon and midnight. (He works 3-11). I don't know how someone cannot be hungry for 12 hours, but he is not. Is this also IF? or just "skipping lunch"?

He's just skipping lunch. A man needs to go 16 hours without eating to be fasting.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like the intermittent fasting craze is just people who want to severely restrict calories and/or be obsessive about their food in an "acceptable" way vs. being labeled as having an eating disorder.

THANK YOU.

Except that most people who do it are overweight and need to severely restrict calories to lose weight effectively. Or they are a tiny bit plumper than they prefer and have to go the scorched earth route to lose any weight.

I dont IF, but I like to diet before vacations so that I can eat whatever I want. I am already slim (BMI at 19) so if I want to move the scale at all, I have to severely restrict calories. That isn't disordered eating. Disordered would be prolonged dieting the point of nutritional deficiency, overeating to the point of excess weight, or using techniques like throwing up that can destroy organs. Eating one meal a day- that's just a calorie control technique.

Why are you wanting to move the scale any direction but up with a BMI of 19? Vacation or otherwise, you do realize you are teetering on being underweight and shouldn't be trying to lose weight ever.

You're missing the point. BMI 19 isn't underweight and losing 5 lbs doesn't make me underweight- it doesn't even move me below 19. The point is that you can restrict calories, even "severely" without having a mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it, but I lost 8 lbs by "skipping breakfast" and have never been leaner. If you do a search, you will find that many reputable institutions, such as Harvard and Duke, have done studies on IF. IF is defined as going at least 14 hours without eating for a woman and 16 hours for a man.

Why the gender difference? And I would've thought the other way...

I believe because Of impact of fasting on hormones.

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I had a BMI of 18-19 my entire adult life until my mid-forties. Then menopause hit and i gained 25 pounds and my BMI went to 23. Thank goodness I had built up solid muscle all those years -- I still look decent, just have a bulging stomach. I lost 15 of those 25 with better eating -- basically just cutting sweets/dessert in half, no other changes.

I tried IF, but just found myself hungry, cheating and eating more. I went back to eating 4 small meals a day and look and feel so much better. I generally start with a "coffee/cream breakfast" at 6 am and finish up with a small dinner at 6pm. If i don't go to sleep by 9pm I start eating again.

I do a combo weekly exercise routine of walking, yoga, Pilates, housecleaning, and yard work. No gyms for me. I used to swim 2x week, but the pools now are too crowded and chlorine-y.

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It is a fast.

The period that you don't eat from from when you go to sleep to whenever you eat again is a fast. "Fasting" is going without food or drink for a period of time. The term doesn't define the period of time. A "fasting blood sugar" is taken when a person gets up, before breakfast. The etymology of the word "breakfast" is "to break one's fast."

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Anonymous wrote:I agree OP.

Skipping breakfast has been a fad diet since forever.

I remember my mom doing it in the 80s.

No one called it fasting. It was called “skipping breakfast.”

So ... the 80s were the BEST. Never going to change names or update anything from the 80s!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it, but I lost 8 lbs by "skipping breakfast" and have never been leaner. If you do a search, you will find that many reputable institutions, such as Harvard and Duke, have done studies on IF. IF is defined as going at least 14 hours without eating for a woman and 16 hours for a man.

Why the gender difference? And I would've thought the other way...

Metabolism, I think.

Hormones. Women's hormones are amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it, but I lost 8 lbs by "skipping breakfast" and have never been leaner. If you do a search, you will find that many reputable institutions, such as Harvard and Duke, have done studies on IF. IF is defined as going at least 14 hours without eating for a woman and 16 hours for a man.

Why the gender difference? And I would've thought the other way...

Metabolism, I think.

Hormones. Women's hormones are amazing.

Yup, this. There is evidence that going longer than 14 hours will put your body into starvation mode if you are a woman of childbearing age, in order to protect a potential pregnancy. If I recall correctly that will then slow your metabolism and you are then working against yourself. That was all the evidence I needed to do a 14:10 schedule rather than a 16:8. I can barely make it the 14 hours on most days but I do think it's helped with some GI issues and there are so many benefits beyond weight loss.

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Anonymous wrote:

It is a fast.

The period that you don't eat from from when you go to sleep to whenever you eat again is a fast. "Fasting" is going without food or drink for a period of time. The term doesn't define the period of time. A "fasting blood sugar" is taken when a person gets up, before breakfast. The etymology of the word "breakfast" is "to break one's fast."

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