Feedback on Boys Club Lacrosse summer 2019

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Anonymous wrote:Top Caliber 2021 had a strong showing at last weekends tournament

In a B division at a B tournament. Using guest players from other teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Evergreen lacrosse may want to consider HOCO league in the future. It is a good way to find out the best skill level when scheduling summer tournaments

And help get kids ready for competition - w some better focus, maybe good things will come from rebranding themselves as Hammers LC

They do have the basis of a good program. Solid coaching with out dads, outstanding facilities, and Loudoun is a growing base of players. For some reason they better players are still heading to other teams.

Loudoun is just too far out for it to be a viable option for most people.

Wow, what rock are you living under? Loudoun has the largest pool of young families and where most of the NOVA talent is being developed. Loudoun is not far for Loudoun people. I agree that a Mont. Co family would never go there but a Loudoun family is not heading to practice at GP or Landon.

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It is almost certainly true that if you plucked the very best players from various VA public schools, you could create a team that competes at the highest level. However, lacrosse as a sport generally doesn't have the same focus in VA as in MD. This is why the IAC has no less than four private that compete on a national level and the MIAA has no leas than six private schools that do the same. The talent pool in MD is just deeper because more kids play lacrosse and recieve better instruction at a younger age.

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Anonymous wrote:Evergreen lacrosse may want to consider HOCO league in the future. It is a good way to find out the best skill level when scheduling summer tournaments

And help get kids ready for competition - w some better focus, maybe good things will come from rebranding themselves as Hammers LC

They do have the basis of a good program. Solid coaching with out dads, outstanding facilities, and Loudoun is a growing base of players. For some reason they better players are still heading to other teams.

Loudoun is just too far out for it to be a viable option for most people.

Wow, what rock are you living under? Loudoun has the largest pool of young families and where most of the NOVA talent is being developed. Loudoun is not far for Loudoun people. I agree that a Mont. Co family would never go there but a Loudoun family is not heading to practice at GP or Landon.

Your both wrong. There are family's from MD traveling to VA, family's from VA traveling to MD, family's from Richmond and Charlottesville traveling to NoVA etc.

Then you have the kids from SC, TX, CA and elsewhere who fly in to play for their Club teams in the Mid Atlantic. Even Baltimore kids from BL, LB, Gilman etc are starting to play for some of the stronger Long Island Teams.

If there's a will, there's a way and it's being proven again and again that athletes will pretty much do whatever it takes to seek out what they perceive to be a better opportunity, more competitive play etc.

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Anonymous wrote:It is almost certainly true that if you plucked the very best players from various VA public schools, you could create a team that competes at the highest level. However, lacrosse as a sport generally doesn't have the same focus in VA as in MD. This is why the IAC has no less than four private that compete on a national level and the MIAA has no leas than six private schools that do the same. The talent pool in MD is just deeper because more kids play lacrosse and recieve better instruction at a younger age.

What does the first statement have to do with the others? Yes, if you pluck the very best public school players from all the schools then they will compete, and that's the point. There are far fewer private schools than there are public schools and those privates have way more talented players. Private schools have the resources to make a greater percentage of players and students better because the sports programs and education are better funded and staffed.

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First and second statement were back to prior posters point on private vs public, which isn't really the distinction, rather overall talent pool.

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As the subject is CLUB lacrosse I do think it is a valid point about VA Public schools. This year there will not be one private school program in Loudoun that is competitive in Lacrosse. PVI opens in 2020. No one can argue that the public school talent is close to the private school talent team v. team but if you pool players from many schools together one could make a solid team. That is what club lacrosse is. Does NOVA have enough players? I think yes. The issue is if more clubs pop up and it spreads the talent across too many teams. Someone will miss out. Evergreen has a lot of reasons to attract players but seemed to have lost many to Blackwolf. There are always outliers such as parents who will go to practices 3-4 hours away. But for the most part, the NOVA kids going to Baltimore teams and the Baltimore kids going to LI teams are doing so as GUEST players for a tournament. Teams like Legends, WCStars, Dukes...are not the same and will still draw kids from all over including NOVA.

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Anonymous wrote:As the subject is CLUB lacrosse I do think it is a valid point about VA Public schools. This year there will not be one private school program in Loudoun that is competitive in Lacrosse. PVI opens in 2020. No one can argue that the public school talent is close to the private school talent team v. team but if you pool players from many schools together one could make a solid team. That is what club lacrosse is. Does NOVA have enough players? I think yes. The issue is if more clubs pop up and it spreads the talent across too many teams. Someone will miss out. Evergreen has a lot of reasons to attract players but seemed to have lost many to Blackwolf. There are always outliers such as parents who will go to practices 3-4 hours away. But for the most part, the NOVA kids going to Baltimore teams and the Baltimore kids going to LI teams are doing so as GUEST players for a tournament. Teams like Legends, WCStars, Dukes...are not the same and will still draw kids from all over including NOVA.

With respect to CLUB lacrosse, the handicap a Loudoun club faces is their geographic isolation. There is almost no one playing lacrosse to the west or south of them, and there is no easy access to the Maryland hotbeds in the North. A Loudoun club will have to populate its team almost entirely with Loudoun and western Fairfax players. Madlax and DC Express are in a much more central location - they get players from Montgomery County, DC, Annapolis, Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax County, and Loudoun County. Madlax and DC Express also get players from North Carolina, Delaware, Eastern Shore, Richmond, Charlottesville, etc. (rostered players, not guests), but the attraction for those players is the broad local talent base those clubs can draw from.

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Anonymous wrote:Evergreen lacrosse may want to consider HOCO league in the future. It is a good way to find out the best skill level when scheduling summer tournaments

And help get kids ready for competition - w some better focus, maybe good things will come from rebranding themselves as Hammers LC

They do have the basis of a good program. Solid coaching with out dads, outstanding facilities, and Loudoun is a growing base of players. For some reason they better players are still heading to other teams.

Loudoun is just too far out for it to be a viable option for most people.

Wow, what rock are you living under? Loudoun has the largest pool of young families and where most of the NOVA talent is being developed. Loudoun is not far for Loudoun people. I agree that a Mont. Co family would never go there but a Loudoun family is not heading to practice at GP or Landon.

Your both wrong. There are family's from MD traveling to VA, family's from VA traveling to MD, family's from Richmond and Charlottesville traveling to NoVA etc.

Then you have the kids from SC, TX, CA and elsewhere who fly in to play for their Club teams in the Mid Atlantic. Even Baltimore kids from BL, LB, Gilman etc are starting to play for some of the stronger Long Island Teams.

If there's a will, there's a way and it's being proven again and again that athletes will pretty much do whatever it takes to seek out what they perceive to be a better opportunity, more competitive play etc.

My point is there is no will to drive to Loudoun for a club team. Maybe that will change but right now it’s not worth it. Long Island yes - maybe but let’s be real. You have to have something to draw people out there and you don’t.

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My point is there is no will to drive to Loudoun for a club team.

Cavs, Evergreen.

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My point is there is no will to drive to Loudoun for a club team.

Cavs, Evergreen.

I think VLC is also a draw for Loudoun kids. I think the point is that there are enough kids in Loudoun to make a team but maybe three teams is pushing it. These teams will not NEED kids from MD, TX, SC, GA, Richmond to field a team. Also, we are talking about two different things. The out of state kids who play in LI or wherever are more an more playing as guest players or playing on National Teams such as Duke's and Legends. The Loudoun clubs are not hoping for out of area players they are pulling enough kids from Loudoun and PW counties to field teams. The answer is yes there is enough for some but a few will be left out. A small number of kids from NOVA drive to MD to play and a smaller number drive from MD to NOVA. There will always be parents willing to commute to crazy town for club lacrosse. The majority play for the best local club they can find. I still think there are a few too many clubs competing for too few players. 3D is also planning to make another run at it and what about Black Wolf, Top Caliber, Battlelax, and VEL? If Madlax found enough kids for 3 teams they would have a MD, VA and Capital team. As it stands they have only enough for one team in some age groups.

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If I am reading the other posts correctly, it appears at least three new teams, TRW, Gorilla, and Dominion are adding teams in Northern VA since the summer? Along with this, Blackwolf is expanding to youth teams? Are there enough players to fill these teams? I guess the sport truly is growing.

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Hard Lax is another new team.

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What the heck is Hardlax?

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Anonymous wrote:What the heck is Hardlax?

Steve Lee, the JV coach of Paul VI, has started his own club team. He's a great guy and a good coach, any kid on that team will benefit from his expertise.