Feedback on Boys Club Lacrosse summer 2019

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3d VA has completely folded. This thread is doomed because each post may have some accuracies as well as inaccuracies. No way to know.

How recently did this happan? Didn't they just play in spring Hoco?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3d VA has completely folded. This thread is doomed because each post may have some accuracies as well as inaccuracies. No way to know.

Not according to their site which is why I posted what I did. Maybe stay quiet until you use google. If there's something constructive you'd like to share then post with backup.

https://3dlacrosse.com/signup/3d-virginia-boys-fall-2019-tryouts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3d VA has completely folded. This thread is doomed because each post may have some accuracies as well as inaccuracies. No way to know.

Not according to their site which is why I posted what I did. Maybe stay quiet until you use google. If there's something constructive you'd like to share then post with backup.

https://3dlacrosse.com/signup/3d-virginia-boys-fall-2019-tryouts

This is where the thread can be helpful. Looks like 3d also added a new director who seems to have a strong background. Smart to start with only younger teams and build. Too late for rising HS kids

[Anonymous]

So they folded their HS teams in the fall. Then they suspended all summer teams. Now they believe people will pay top dollar for their tryouts in fall? Ok.

[Anonymous]

There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

[Anonymous]

The best talent in NoVA don't even play for clubs in NoVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

There is enough raw talent. Just not enough kids go to private schools from NOVA to refine that talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best talent in NoVA don't even play for clubs in NoVA.

The youth teams are stacked w/ NoVa talent but let's be happy parents have choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

There is enough raw talent. Just not enough kids go to private schools from NOVA to refine that talent.

That comment is laughable. Private schools collect talent they do not refine it. Did Bullis refine Jr. and Sr. transfers? Does IMG or the Hill school? Kids play more games in the fall and summer than they do in the spring. Kids in NOVA have decent public school teams. In MD just about ALL club lacrosse kids go to private schools. If you collected all of the top NOVA public HS players they would be top 2-3 team in the DMV easily. Robinson, South County, Langley have all produced players to excel at the D1 level and beyond. Let's be clear those kids are refine'd by the clubs not by HS. It is true that many of the current top level 8-11 grade players also go play for MD based clubs and do go to play at WCAC and IAC schools in DC and MD. I would be silly to claim that public teams are better than private school teams. However, this is because the top players decide to go there.

[Anonymous]

Just wanted to add my thanks to the many posters who thoughtfully provided their take on club ball. Of course there will be differences of opinions (I wouldn’t really say inaccuracies) but I appreciate each perspective.

Honestly, reading this felt like talking with helpful parents of kids older than mine and it was so refreshing.

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

There is enough raw talent. Just not enough kids go to private schools from NOVA to refine that talent.

That comment is laughable. Private schools collect talent they do not refine it. Did Bullis refine Jr. and Sr. transfers? Does IMG or the Hill school? Kids play more games in the fall and summer than they do in the spring. Kids in NOVA have decent public school teams. In MD just about ALL club lacrosse kids go to private schools. If you collected all of the top NOVA public HS players they would be top 2-3 team in the DMV easily. Robinson, South County, Langley have all produced players to excel at the D1 level and beyond. Let's be clear those kids are refine'd by the clubs not by HS. It is true that many of the current top level 8-11 grade players also go play for MD based clubs and do go to play at WCAC and IAC schools in DC and MD. I would be silly to claim that public teams are better than private school teams. However, this is because the top players decide to go there.

I'm not sure what your point is about collecting talent in PS and making a good team. It's kind of like saying if you collect all the best euro's playing basketball you could have a really competitive basketball team in the NBA. If you are a really good player, you seek to go to privates because they have the better coaching, are surrounded by other good players and the programs are consistent year-over-year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

There is enough raw talent. Just not enough kids go to private schools from NOVA to refine that talent.

That comment is laughable. Private schools collect talent they do not refine it. Did Bullis refine Jr. and Sr. transfers? Does IMG or the Hill school? Kids play more games in the fall and summer than they do in the spring. Kids in NOVA have decent public school teams. In MD just about ALL club lacrosse kids go to private schools. If you collected all of the top NOVA public HS players they would be top 2-3 team in the DMV easily. Robinson, South County, Langley have all produced players to excel at the D1 level and beyond. Let's be clear those kids are refine'd by the clubs not by HS. It is true that many of the current top level 8-11 grade players also go play for MD based clubs and do go to play at WCAC and IAC schools in DC and MD. I would be silly to claim that public teams are better than private school teams. However, this is because the top players decide to go there.

I'm not sure what your point is about collecting talent in PS and making a good team. It's kind of like saying if you collect all the best euro's playing basketball you could have a really competitive basketball team in the NBA. If you are a really good player, you seek to go to privates because they have the better coaching, are surrounded by other good players and the programs are consistent year-over-year.

If you don't understand his point then you are amazingly stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

There is enough raw talent. Just not enough kids go to private schools from NOVA to refine that talent.

That comment is laughable. Private schools collect talent they do not refine it. Did Bullis refine Jr. and Sr. transfers? Does IMG or the Hill school? Kids play more games in the fall and summer than they do in the spring. Kids in NOVA have decent public school teams. In MD just about ALL club lacrosse kids go to private schools. If you collected all of the top NOVA public HS players they would be top 2-3 team in the DMV easily. Robinson, South County, Langley have all produced players to excel at the D1 level and beyond. Let's be clear those kids are refine'd by the clubs not by HS. It is true that many of the current top level 8-11 grade players also go play for MD based clubs and do go to play at WCAC and IAC schools in DC and MD. I would be silly to claim that public teams are better than private school teams. However, this is because the top players decide to go there.

I'm not sure what your point is about collecting talent in PS and making a good team. It's kind of like saying if you collect all the best euro's playing basketball you could have a really competitive basketball team in the NBA. If you are a really good player, you seek to go to privates because they have the better coaching, are surrounded by other good players and the programs are consistent year-over-year.

The point about public school talent v private school talent is in response to the comment that PS talent is "raw" and needs to be refined by attending a private school. This may have been true in the past but is not as applicable today. I would not argue that public school programs can even compete in a game. However at the individual player level talent is talent no matter if they are public or private. Many kids play year round outside of the HS. These kids learn to play a higher level and are challenged to play with and v. the best players. The majority of these players end up attending a private school team. If you pooled together the few that stay in public school they would equal the top private school teams. The point is that I do not feel a player's skill will be hindered at a HS level if they are competing 8-10 other months of the year on a top club program and attending showcases and other events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

There is enough raw talent. Just not enough kids go to private schools from NOVA to refine that talent.

That comment is laughable. Private schools collect talent they do not refine it. Did Bullis refine Jr. and Sr. transfers? Does IMG or the Hill school? Kids play more games in the fall and summer than they do in the spring. Kids in NOVA have decent public school teams. In MD just about ALL club lacrosse kids go to private schools. If you collected all of the top NOVA public HS players they would be top 2-3 team in the DMV easily. Robinson, South County, Langley have all produced players to excel at the D1 level and beyond. Let's be clear those kids are refine'd by the clubs not by HS. It is true that many of the current top level 8-11 grade players also go play for MD based clubs and do go to play at WCAC and IAC schools in DC and MD. I would be silly to claim that public teams are better than private school teams. However, this is because the top players decide to go there.

I'm not sure what your point is about collecting talent in PS and making a good team. It's kind of like saying if you collect all the best euro's playing basketball you could have a really competitive basketball team in the NBA. If you are a really good player, you seek to go to privates because they have the better coaching, are surrounded by other good players and the programs are consistent year-over-year.

Comparing NBA and Euro is not logical to comparing private and public school lacrosse. There could be good reasons a player does not attend a private school that are not talent related. There are public school lacrosse players playing in the PLL. Your assumption is that one pool of players is better than another pool of players top to bottom. There are plenty of players in the WCAC and IAC that could not make a top club team and get minutes. There are public school kids getting D1 offers to top schools. The comparison does not work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just not enough talent in Northern VA to field all these teams.

There is enough raw talent. Just not enough kids go to private schools from NOVA to refine that talent.

That comment is laughable. Private schools collect talent they do not refine it. Did Bullis refine Jr. and Sr. transfers? Does IMG or the Hill school? Kids play more games in the fall and summer than they do in the spring. Kids in NOVA have decent public school teams. In MD just about ALL club lacrosse kids go to private schools. If you collected all of the top NOVA public HS players they would be top 2-3 team in the DMV easily. Robinson, South County, Langley have all produced players to excel at the D1 level and beyond. Let's be clear those kids are refine'd by the clubs not by HS. It is true that many of the current top level 8-11 grade players also go play for MD based clubs and do go to play at WCAC and IAC schools in DC and MD. I would be silly to claim that public teams are better than private school teams. However, this is because the top players decide to go there.

Bullis, Landon, Gonzaga et al absolutely refine transfers and make their own better. They don't just show up on the first day of March like PS and head out to the field. These teams work out all winter, play indoor, play fall ball as school teams in addition to doing club. You don't think Hill or IMG aren't refining. Go look at their school agenda and then look at where these kids are attending school and compare that to the PS. Certainly there are some from PS but not nearly the amount as a whole or by percentage.

You can grasp for exceptions but that's why they are called exceptions and not the norm.