If the kids getting into Stuy are from gang ridden neighborhoods with lead paint in the walls and parents with mental illness we need to clone them. |
Yep. Most of them were not doctors in China who now live in Montgomery County. Instead, they were peasants in China with less than a high school education and they now live in a tiny 1BR flat in Queens or Chinatown and do menial labor and don't speak English. |
YES! |
That table DOES show how each group did on the test: 6.96% of Asian test takers had a score high enough to qualify for Stuyvesant. 2.94% of white test takers did. Etc. The link shows the total numbers of test takers and the number accepted into a bunch different schools. |
I know a sibling pair who attended Stuy. Poor Chinese immigrants raised by a single dad with no education who did menial labor jobs in Chinatown. For a while, he drove a truck making deliveries in Chinatown. The mother died when the kids were young. When the mom was sick, the kids would have to translate for the doctors and nurses because the parents didn't speak a word of English. The kids both got scholarships to college and worked full time in college and are now a doctor and an investment banker. Stories like this are shockingly common. |
Source? |
As a Science alum from the 1980s, the figures in this table appall me. There were a lot more than 25 black kids in my class and no where near the number of Asians indicated. FWIW, I've known plenty of people who were very smart, worked hard and did well in school but were relatively lousy test takers. It's a skill in and of itself. These numbers really scream it's time to reevaluate how we do this. |
Looking at admissions, saying “hmmm there are too many Asians” and then changing the system so that we get fewer Asians is the definition of institutional racism. Can’t wait until affirmative action is struck down and we can stop this diversity BS. |
Agree completely. What is happening with the groups that aren’t represented in offers? |
This is borne out at Stuyvesant. While 75% of current students are Asian-Americans, they also, according to Department of Education statistics, constitute over 90% of students qualifying for free or subsidized lunch, the measure of poverty used in educational circles. https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/stuyvesant-serves-needy-minorities-article-1.3944199 |
I wonder what the SES/race breakdown looks like for the test takers. |
From the article...
Read the article.. Like I said, Asian immigrants view education as a means to get out of poverty, so they invest heavily in it. That's really all it is. It's not because they are smarter or better. They just work harder at it and really invest in their children's education. |
Uh oh we need to destroy these schools fast, before folks notice how much BS Dems say about education and poverty. |
Do you not understand what institutional racism is? Go read up on it. Very relevant. |
Do you think the 45% low income students, 90% of them who are Asians live in luxury? Or do you perhaps think they also live in old buildings with lead paint on the walls? Also, mental illness is a serious issue in the Asian community. It's just never talked about, and certainly people never seek help for it. As for gangs, have you never heard of Chinese gangs in NYC? http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-deadly-battle-for-control-over-new-york-s-chinatown When do the excuses stop? Asian immigrants have gone through racism, desperation, gang violence and extreme poverty just as other groups have. I am Asian American. I went to a gang infested school and grew up low income. My parents didn't speak English. Like many others, we -- the children - had to translate everything for them.. from school forms to doctors' visits. |