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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“This is actually tricky -
Admission to Stuyvesant is determined by a single test avail to all middle school students in NYC.There are no soft criteria-no interviews,no legacy favoritism, no strings to be pulled. It’s all abt test score which determines if you can handle academics.”

- Stephanie Ruhle, MSNBC[/quote]

Maggie Haberman, NYT, quoted Ruhle to say:
“White students generally have more means with which to prep for this test, some doing it for years. Yes it’s a test, no it is not an equal playing field.”

I’m not sure why Maggie used white when Asians are the ones dominating this system. [/quote]

The simple truth is that Asian relative overperformance demonstrates that “discrimination” is not a significant driver of outcomes on this sort of test.  It has always been a very inconvenient truth for those who insist all groups are [b]equally talented[/b], generally ignored because of that inconvenience, and because Asians didn’t seem to want to make a big issue out of it.  Now there is a critical mass of Asians who are going to resist getting shafted in the name of diversity.  Will be interesting to see how that all works out.[/quote]

You think it's a level playing field? So it's just pure talent that is being compared by these tests? 
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um yeah.  There are poor and middle class asian kids who are getting in.  That throws out race and SES as an excuse[/quote]

So all of those poor and MC kids had the same upbringing? Same home environment? Same school environment - are they are the same schools?

This doesn't break down the SES by race so we don't know how the scores map to race AND SES.

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I believe that 90 percent of the FARMS students at Stuy are Asians. [/quote]

Source? 
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This is borne out at Stuyvesant. While 75% of current students are Asian-Americans, they also, according to Department of Education statistics, constitute over 90% of students qualifying for free or subsidized lunch, the measure of poverty used in educational circles.

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/stuyvesant-serves-needy-minorities-article-1.3944199[/quote]
From the article...

[quote]The Mayor's Office of Operations' annual report on poverty in the city, released this month, noted that 24.1% of Asian-American New Yorkers lived in poverty in 2016, the latest year for available statistics, compared to 23.9% for Hispanics, 19.2% for blacks and 13.4% for whites.

Read the article.. Like I said, Asian immigrants view education as a means to get out of poverty, so they invest heavily in it. That's really all it is. It's not because they are smarter or better. They just work harder at it and really invest in their children's education.[/quote]

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