What's the real story behind MadLax and Blackwolf founders?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish my DC never got involved in lacrosse and all the bad apples, physical risks and lax bro culture. It's not just Maxlax. Lacrosse a cesspool.

I have never seen any of this in five years of travel lacrosse. Garbage post. Get lost, troll.

Couldn't agree with the post of wishing my kid never got involved in lacrosse. The culture is awful and the parents are intolerable. Your post shows the level of the parent behavior in this sport. My kids played just about every sport except hockey and sitting on the sidelines of lacrosse games watching and listening to lax parents was torture.

Again. I have been a lacrosse parent for five years and I have never seen "intolerable" parent behavior. So far, it has been good sportsmanship on the field and on the sidelines. When the other team makes a good play - when the opposing goalie makes a good stop - parents of the affected team will say "good shot" or "good stop" or whatever.

I am totally dismissive of "lacrosse culture is awful" posts because I haven't seen it and I think it is the product of one person's kid having a bad experience (maybe they got cut or something) and therefore that kid's parent is lashing out at the entire sport.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real story is that Cabell is a good guy, who has built a very nice business. People complain about the fees, but people often complain about fees in youth sports. If your kid is super talented and you have a financial hardship, I'd assume that he would be happy to work out an arrangement. Many parents who paid his fees look back and say it was well worth it. Along the way, hundreds of boys have gotten into good colleges with his help and the help of the guys he hires who coach on his staff. He has hundreds of former players who are fond of him and are glad that he was their coach. He is a super competitive guy. He wrote a few harsh emails, and the recipient decided to put them on Deadspin many years ago. I knew the parties involved and it did not surprise me that there was a conflict that got to that point--i.e., it takes two to tango, as they say. One consequence of that is that Cabell has been constantly haunted by an anonymous poster on this board who has it in for him and the Blackwolf guy. Personally, I did not always see eye to eye with Cabell, but am glad my son played for him and his guys for a good 7 or 8 years. My son is too. He runs a professional organization, especially in the youth sports industry. That pretty much sums up the "real story" on Maddux from a guy who knows him a lot better than whoever keeps trying to trash him.

Yes, he wrote a few harsh emails threatening children and their parents by saying he would blackball them if their kids didn't stick with the program. That's not harsh or competitive.
He also runs a program continually caught cheating by playing kids from older rosters down onto younger rosters. The entire program had to forfeit at the Hershey tournament last summer and one of their teams had to forfeit in this year's HoCo playoffs. We aren't talking about kids born prior to the US guideline of 9/1. He plays kids enrolled in an older class in lower class divisions.

And the sketchy behavior at that tournament he runs? Check the teams attending year by year and you will see the quality going down because they good teams are going elsewhere what with all the shenanigans. This was just a few months ago mind you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've got no dog in this fight whatsoever but after all of the lacrosse threads I have seen here over the years, the sport seems rife with ne'er do wells.

You are an ignoramus and you are embarrassing yourself by flaunting your ignorance.

My DS is in his fourth year of travel lacrosse and I have never encountered any "ne'er do wells". He has been with great coaches and great kids, and has had a tremendous experience.

Overly defensive much? What a crazy helicopter response.

Just because your sheltered snowflake had a good experience in no way means the sport had (or does not have) more bad apples than other sports.

Hint: Your experiences are not universal.

Hint: it is much more crazy to assert that lacrosse is universally "rife with ne'er do wells."

If the sport was "rife with ne'er do wells" and has more bad apples than other sports, then I couldn't possibly "shelter" my "snowflake" from that, could I?

Just because your kid had a bad experience does not mean the sport is more awful than other sports.

[Anonymous]

Yes, he wrote a few harsh emails threatening children and their parents by saying he would blackball them if their kids didn't stick with the program. That's not harsh or competitive.
He also runs a program continually caught cheating by playing kids from older rosters down onto younger rosters. The entire program had to forfeit at the Hershey tournament last summer and one of their teams had to forfeit in this year's HoCo playoffs. We aren't talking about kids born prior to the US guideline of 9/1. He plays kids enrolled in an older class in lower class divisions.

And the sketchy behavior at that tournament he runs? Check the teams attending year by year and you will see the quality going down because they good teams are going elsewhere what with all the shenanigans. This was just a few months ago mind you.

True too and not an issue only to ML. Hogan is starting to see this problem with how he manipulates his teams at his events so much so that he has started to try and separate the teams from the tournaments when he can. But his teams are so good they shouldn't be playing in this type of competition. The NY tournaments like 91 are even worse when it comes to scheduling. ML is the worst in the area and they have a hard time getting anyone to play them due to their outright cheating.

[Anonymous]

Clubs make more money running events than from club dues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've got no dog in this fight whatsoever but after all of the lacrosse threads I have seen here over the years, the sport seems rife with ne'er do wells.

You are an ignoramus and you are embarrassing yourself by flaunting your ignorance.

My DS is in his fourth year of travel lacrosse and I have never encountered any "ne'er do wells". He has been with great coaches and great kids, and has had a tremendous experience.

Overly defensive much? What a crazy helicopter response.

Just because your sheltered snowflake had a good experience in no way means the sport had (or does not have) more bad apples than other sports.

Hint: Your experiences are not universal.

Hint: it is much more crazy to assert that lacrosse is universally "rife with ne'er do wells."

If the sport was "rife with ne'er do wells" and has more bad apples than other sports, then I couldn't possibly "shelter" my "snowflake" from that, could I?

Just because your kid had a bad experience does not mean the sport is more awful than other sports.

I don’t have a kid who plays lacrosse. I’m a former lacrosse player.

[Anonymous]

No such thing as a former player. Therefore I do not believe you. I am in my mid 40’s and play with people in their 50’s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No such thing as a former player. Therefore I do not believe you. I am in my mid 40’s and play with people in their 50’s

You are playing up. Impressive!

[Anonymous]

The part about not having a kid that plays lacrosse is the part I do not believe. Who would be reading these without a kid on one of the teams?? In other words what goes wrong in your life that you would care that much about youth lacrosse if you did not own, coach, or have a kid on a club team yet read and post here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've got no dog in this fight whatsoever but after all of the lacrosse threads I have seen here over the years, the sport seems rife with ne'er do wells.

You are an ignoramus and you are embarrassing yourself by flaunting your ignorance.

My DS is in his fourth year of travel lacrosse and I have never encountered any "ne'er do wells". He has been with great coaches and great kids, and has had a tremendous experience.

Overly defensive much? What a crazy helicopter response.

Just because your sheltered snowflake had a good experience in no way means the sport had (or does not have) more bad apples than other sports.

Hint: Your experiences are not universal.

Hint: it is much more crazy to assert that lacrosse is universally "rife with ne'er do wells."

If the sport was "rife with ne'er do wells" and has more bad apples than other sports, then I couldn't possibly "shelter" my "snowflake" from that, could I?

Just because your kid had a bad experience does not mean the sport is more awful than other sports.

I don’t have a kid who plays lacrosse. I’m a former lacrosse player.

So you spent many years of your life hanging around with "ne'er do wells" and "bad apples"?

Either you are not very intelligent, or you are a bad apple yourself. Either way there's not much reason to believe what you say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real story is that Cabell is a good guy, who has built a very nice business. People complain about the fees, but people often complain about fees in youth sports. If your kid is super talented and you have a financial hardship, I'd assume that he would be happy to work out an arrangement. Many parents who paid his fees look back and say it was well worth it. Along the way, hundreds of boys have gotten into good colleges with his help and the help of the guys he hires who coach on his staff. He has hundreds of former players who are fond of him and are glad that he was their coach. He is a super competitive guy. He wrote a few harsh emails, and the recipient decided to put them on Deadspin many years ago. I knew the parties involved and it did not surprise me that there was a conflict that got to that point--i.e., it takes two to tango, as they say. One consequence of that is that Cabell has been constantly haunted by an anonymous poster on this board who has it in for him and the Blackwolf guy. Personally, I did not always see eye to eye with Cabell, but am glad my son played for him and his guys for a good 7 or 8 years. My son is too. He runs a professional organization, especially in the youth sports industry. That pretty much sums up the "real story" on Maddux from a guy who knows him a lot better than whoever keeps trying to trash him.

Yes, he wrote a few harsh emails threatening children and their parents by saying he would blackball them if their kids didn't stick with the program. That's not harsh or competitive.
He also runs a program continually caught cheating by playing kids from older rosters down onto younger rosters. The entire program had to forfeit at the Hershey tournament last summer and one of their teams had to forfeit in this year's HoCo playoffs. We aren't talking about kids born prior to the US guideline of 9/1. He plays kids enrolled in an older class in lower class divisions.

Still that is nothing compared with the history of BW guy. That stated there are good programs run by good people.

What is this, the Olympics for the biggest ah!that in town?

No wonder so many of you all have such loser kids. Parents with no values. Glad your kid plays lacrosse so well, will be perfect practice for his career mowing lawns.

[Anonymous]

The real story is that these dudes are still making money hand over fist.

[Anonymous]

I am sitting at Word of Grace in Herndon VA (Sunday, February 21) listening to a coach scream the worst obscenities I have ever heard. “Tell me why you don’t suck” then he screamed players by name “you f)&)(;n suck” “you f($$)n suck” no class no dignity no leadership - good thing my child doesn’t play for this guy,5 minutes in he’d have his lights knocked out. Just disgusting. Way to coach...

[Anonymous]

That sounds abusive and that coach should be reported. Which club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sitting at Word of Grace in Herndon VA (Sunday, February 21) listening to a coach scream the worst obscenities I have ever heard. “Tell me why you don’t suck” then he screamed players by name “you f)&)(;n suck” “you f($$)n suck” no class no dignity no leadership - good thing my child doesn’t play for this guy,5 minutes in he’d have his lights knocked out. Just disgusting. Way to coach...

Why would you be at the Word of Grace fields if your kid doesn’t play for him?