Not true. She probably rather be doing other things, maybe not as attracted to husband. It's another chore at the end of a long day trying to meet yet "another" person's needs. When PP says "badger", I already know his wife views it as a job and a duty which totally sucks. |
I have a friend who is 50 and we told her to stop using birth control years ago. She's very lonely. The guys like most didn't last, and she really messed up. Always put your kids first or having kids first. |
| Get your needs filled outside the marriage. Problem solved. |
A partner who rejects sex does not get to vote on opening the marriage. They already set the precedent for unilateral decisions about sex in the marriage. You simply exercise this same right to declare it’s now open. |
People use the not helping enough excuse to cheat, the in-laws, blah blah blah. Poor me, not getting my way all the time. Get divorced and move on. You clearly aren't good at marriage. |
So you feel "pawed at 2-3 times a week"? And you "feel pressured" for sex? How did your incompatible relationship ever get past the second date? Oh, wait: I know! You were happily enjoying sex 3-4 times per week for the first couple years. Long enough to secure the relationship, have a few kids, become financially entwined. Only then YOU CHANGED and for some selfish reason, you expect your partner would also go along with your low sex drive! Like you said, some people on here should never be married, especially those who attempt this selfish bait-and-switch tactic. Here's some free advice to save your marriage: issue a permanent hall pass. Otherwise, divorce and find a compatible (low drive) partner. But don't stick around feeling "pressured for sex". The burden is on YOU to fix or end this, since YOU are the one who has changed. |
No, that’s wrong. |
Any particular signs (in addition to lack of interest in you?) |
| If these women are still attractive and in good shape, they most likely are cheating or seriously fantasizing about cheating. |
Yep, and married men expect their mistress to compensate for their deficiencies at home without getting the benefits of being a wife. Its like they are scared of their wives and ashamed that they were duped into buying a milkless cow. |
| If my wife of 18 years recoils from my touch (hand on back and the like), considers 2x a month having plenty of sex, and makes excuses, is the marriage over? |
Only if you decide you want it to be over. She might want to stay in a close to sexless marriage because of other considerations-- money, extended family, kids, companionship. But are *you* willing to stay for that? |
Do you like her as a room mate? Then stay but open the marriage. If not, trade her for a younger model that’s in good working order (sexually). |
It's slightly less over than mine... I'm not even getting 2x a month. I almost feel like I could live with that. But nah, it's over. |
Just don't expect it to get better. Honestly, I felt the same way for a long time. LONG time. Actually, we have gotten better but it has been very difficult. |