Girls being physically aggressive with boys in school - "you can't hit me back bc I'm a girl!"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't actually a problem, OP.

Violence against women? Now, there's a problem.

Your boys will survive this.

It is a problem when ANYONE, boy or girl, is subject to being hit, kicked, poked, or pinched at school. Everyone has a right to be free from violence and to protect their own body.

I have told my sons very clearly that they should NEVER hit a girl or woman first, but if she hits you, put her on the floor and then get away from her. Do what you have to do to protect your body.

Way to teach your child to end up in prison some day. You sound like a nut job, and just the kind of poster OP has been tirelessly searching for.

A man isn't going to go to prison for defending himself. At most, he is going to get a misdemeanor charge. If he pushes self-defense as an affirmative defenses to the charges, he probably isn't even going to take a conviction on it.

Teach your girls not to hit and there is no problem.

Yes, if a man hits a woman after she hits him, he can get in serious trouble for it, if he hurts her. Even if he doesn't hurt her, he could get fired, lose a scholarship, etc.

Remember FSU QB De'Andre Johnson?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/florida-state-university-qb-suspended/

He got 10 days of community service and a fine under $1000. We can chance that. It's better than allowing someone to abuse you.

And kicked off the team.

She wasn't "abusing" him. And nobody should allow anyone to abuse them. They should walk away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't actually a problem, OP.

Violence against women? Now, there's a problem.

Your boys will survive this.

It is a problem when ANYONE, boy or girl, is subject to being hit, kicked, poked, or pinched at school. Everyone has a right to be free from violence and to protect their own body.

I have told my sons very clearly that they should NEVER hit a girl or woman first, but if she hits you, put her on the floor and then get away from her. Do what you have to do to protect your body.

Oh, simmer the fuck down you MRA nut

LOL

I am a woman and probably one of the most feminist people on this board. I don't tolerate violence, though, in any form from any one. I don't expect my boys to tolerate it either. If a person is physically violent, then they have earned a physically violent response.

Then I guess you do tolerate physical violence.

The use of violence in self-defense is necessary. I suppose I do tolerate the use of violence in self-defense.

Is your child's life in danger from these girls? Can your DS not walk away, or talk to a teacher? No skills? Just fists? Hard to respect people who act like cavemen.

[Anonymous]

I used to beat up the kids who teased me, boy or girl, because I was the only foreigner in my boarding school. I was smaller than everyone else but when you're angry, you're stronger. After a few weeks, everybody stopped doing teasing me.

But this won't work in our modern world.
Tell your children to stop fighting at school, and that they should tell the teacher if someone is targeting them, be it boy or girl. There is such a strong anti-bullying social pressure these days - use it to your advantage. In our MCPS school, there are forms you can fill out to complain about bullying and they are taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

My brother was being bullied by a group of girls who were jealous of his grades. They would rip his books up and punch him, a bid for his attention. One day I cornered the ring leader after school and told her if she did it again she would be sorry. Get the older sisters to get involved, if your ds has them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Next time she hits, teach your boys to yell, "I already told you, no matter what you do, I'm not going out with you! You are ugly and I already like someone else."

Then repeat in other conversation, Susie is getting violent because she's angry I won't go out with her/be her friend.

And yes, you CAN hit a girl. You can hit anyone who stands between you and safety.

+100

I love that response. Bitches need to learn. Words hurt girls more than fists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't actually a problem, OP.

Violence against women? Now, there's a problem.

Your boys will survive this.

It is a problem when ANYONE, boy or girl, is subject to being hit, kicked, poked, or pinched at school. Everyone has a right to be free from violence and to protect their own body.

I have told my sons very clearly that they should NEVER hit a girl or woman first, but if she hits you, put her on the floor and then get away from her. Do what you have to do to protect your body.

Oh, simmer the fuck down you MRA nut

LOL

I am a woman and probably one of the most feminist people on this board. I don't tolerate violence, though, in any form from any one. I don't expect my boys to tolerate it either. If a person is physically violent, then they have earned a physically violent response.

Then I guess you do tolerate physical violence.

The use of violence in self-defense is necessary. I suppose I do tolerate the use of violence in self-defense.

Is your child's life in danger from these girls? Can your DS not walk away, or talk to a teacher? No skills? Just fists? Hard to respect people who act like cavemen.

Would you say that if it was a girl bullied by girls? These are kids still learning social skills. Bullying is a problem be it either gender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The girls probably think it's harmless bullshit, which it is.

There are some girls like that at my DS's school. I tell him to stay away from them -- not because they are going to get him to hit them (already taught him not to hit people) but because I want him to grow up having healthy relationships with girls and eventually healthy relationships with women. Avoid the nut jobs and focus on the nice ones. But OP and the others are only focused on their child winning some stupid playground battle with a little girl. Pathetic.

If I were worried about him winning a battle, would I tell him to walk away? Yes, I'm so pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't actually a problem, OP.

Violence against women? Now, there's a problem.

Your boys will survive this.

It is a problem when ANYONE, boy or girl, is subject to being hit, kicked, poked, or pinched at school. Everyone has a right to be free from violence and to protect their own body.

I have told my sons very clearly that they should NEVER hit a girl or woman first, but if she hits you, put her on the floor and then get away from her. Do what you have to do to protect your body.

Oh, simmer the fuck down you MRA nut

LOL

I am a woman and probably one of the most feminist people on this board. I don't tolerate violence, though, in any form from any one. I don't expect my boys to tolerate it either. If a person is physically violent, then they have earned a physically violent response.

Then I guess you do tolerate physical violence.

The use of violence in self-defense is necessary. I suppose I do tolerate the use of violence in self-defense.

Is your child's life in danger from these girls? Can your DS not walk away, or talk to a teacher? No skills? Just fists? Hard to respect people who act like cavemen.

Walking away and talking to a teacher usually doesn't stop anything. Bullying just continues behind the teacher's back. Returning violence with violence typically puts paid to whatever is going on.

No one asked for your respect. Respect from people like you isn't worth having.

[Anonymous]

What kind of Mad Max style schools do your kids attend where these marauding girls are routinely assaulting your kids, to the extent you've developed a "take-down" plan for when they come for your child? ("Put her on the ground" pp? Wtf?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't actually a problem, OP.

Violence against women? Now, there's a problem.

Your boys will survive this.

It is a problem when ANYONE, boy or girl, is subject to being hit, kicked, poked, or pinched at school. Everyone has a right to be free from violence and to protect their own body.

I have told my sons very clearly that they should NEVER hit a girl or woman first, but if she hits you, put her on the floor and then get away from her. Do what you have to do to protect your body.

Way to teach your child to end up in prison some day. You sound like a nut job, and just the kind of poster OP has been tirelessly searching for.

A man isn't going to go to prison for defending himself. At most, he is going to get a misdemeanor charge. If he pushes self-defense as an affirmative defenses to the charges, he probably isn't even going to take a conviction on it.

Teach your girls not to hit and there is no problem.

Yes, if a man hits a woman after she hits him, he can get in serious trouble for it, if he hurts her. Even if he doesn't hurt her, he could get fired, lose a scholarship, etc.

Remember FSU QB De'Andre Johnson?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/florida-state-university-qb-suspended/

He got 10 days of community service and a fine under $1000. We can chance that. It's better than allowing someone to abuse you.

And kicked off the team.

She wasn't "abusing" him. And nobody should allow anyone to abuse them. They should walk away.

I am not going to debate Johnson's case with you, because it wasn't my example. There was a lot of he said/she said in that case that makes it unclear whether she hit him first or not.

Elementary age kids in classes can't just "walk away" from their bullies and abusers. They have to be in class and on the playground and on the bus with those bullies. They have to deal with them every day. Your advice to "just walk away" is advice that can't be implemented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't actually a problem, OP.

Violence against women? Now, there's a problem.

Your boys will survive this.

It is a problem when ANYONE, boy or girl, is subject to being hit, kicked, poked, or pinched at school. Everyone has a right to be free from violence and to protect their own body.

I have told my sons very clearly that they should NEVER hit a girl or woman first, but if she hits you, put her on the floor and then get away from her. Do what you have to do to protect your body.

Oh, simmer the fuck down you MRA nut

LOL

I am a woman and probably one of the most feminist people on this board. I don't tolerate violence, though, in any form from any one. I don't expect my boys to tolerate it either. If a person is physically violent, then they have earned a physically violent response.

Then I guess you do tolerate physical violence.

The use of violence in self-defense is necessary. I suppose I do tolerate the use of violence in self-defense.

Is your child's life in danger from these girls? Can your DS not walk away, or talk to a teacher? No skills? Just fists? Hard to respect people who act like cavemen.

Walking away and talking to a teacher usually doesn't stop anything. Bullying just continues behind the teacher's back. Returning violence with violence typically puts paid to whatever is going on.

No one asked for your respect. Respect from people like you isn't worth having.

There seems to be no talking with you. You tell your kids that respect is earned through violence. We'll tell our kids to stay away from these physically violent girls until they grow out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For the most part, my boys have come to understand that they need to stay away (though often the girls are chasing them, like I said it's often a ploy for their attention), and they sometimes tell the teacher. There is the aspect of not wanting to appear like a wimp, so there is reluctance to do that.

I'm more interested in hearing why girls think it's okay to do this.

Based on many responses so far, it's sadly become clear that they learn from their parents that it's okay, and impressed upon the girls that the MOST important thing is making sure the boys know their place and put up with it.

Point me to one person on this board who said that. One. Oh, you can't? Then fuck off. People are pointing out that (1) hitting girls can get boys, who are often bigger and stronger, in a lot of trouble, and (2) hitting is wrong even if you are hit first. Are these boys really in so much danger from these girls that they need to resort to violence to fend them off, or can they just walk away? If the latter, then that's what they should do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kind of Mad Max style schools do your kids attend where these marauding girls are routinely assaulting your kids, to the extent you've developed a "take-down" plan for when they come for your child? ("Put her on the ground" pp? Wtf?)

How's life in the upper class?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. For the most part, my boys have come to understand that they need to stay away (though often the girls are chasing them, like I said it's often a ploy for their attention), and they sometimes tell the teacher. There is the aspect of not wanting to appear like a wimp, so there is reluctance to do that.

I'm more interested in hearing why girls think it's okay to do this.

Based on many responses so far, it's sadly become clear that they learn from their parents that it's okay, and impressed upon the girls that the MOST important thing is making sure the boys know their place and put up with it.

nailed it, op. I'm constantly reminding DD that the most important thing is ruling the third grade boys in her class with an iron fist. They're not going to subjugate themselves, FFS!

Me too! Took the words out of my mouth.

Simmer down, OP. Most girls don't think it's ok.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't actually a problem, OP.

Violence against women? Now, there's a problem.

Your boys will survive this.

It is a problem when ANYONE, boy or girl, is subject to being hit, kicked, poked, or pinched at school. Everyone has a right to be free from violence and to protect their own body.

I have told my sons very clearly that they should NEVER hit a girl or woman first, but if she hits you, put her on the floor and then get away from her. Do what you have to do to protect your body.

Way to teach your child to end up in prison some day. You sound like a nut job, and just the kind of poster OP has been tirelessly searching for.

A man isn't going to go to prison for defending himself. At most, he is going to get a misdemeanor charge. If he pushes self-defense as an affirmative defenses to the charges, he probably isn't even going to take a conviction on it.

Teach your girls not to hit and there is no problem.

Yes, if a man hits a woman after she hits him, he can get in serious trouble for it, if he hurts her. Even if he doesn't hurt her, he could get fired, lose a scholarship, etc.

Remember FSU QB De'Andre Johnson?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/florida-state-university-qb-suspended/

He got 10 days of community service and a fine under $1000. We can chance that. It's better than allowing someone to abuse you.

And kicked off the team.

She wasn't "abusing" him. And nobody should allow anyone to abuse them. They should walk away.

And remember Ray RIce. She hit me first, wah wah wah. I just had to knock her unconscious and drag her out of the elevator by her heels. I just HAD to. Disgusting.