Why no business major at (most of) the Ivies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My SLAC didn't/doesn't offer it, either . . . I don't think that many do. It's not part of a classic curriculum that focuses on theory and critical thinking skills, versus practical and technical skills (that most graduates from elite schools will pick up on the job).

Companies now a days want people who can hit the ground running, and that often means already having the practical/technical skills on the job. That's why internships are so important.

No I want intelligent people with critical thinking skills. I can train them in the job skills but if they don’t have the ability to think and analyze, they are of no use to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:google investment banking targets before you get to fixated on "business degrees".

Goldman knows they can train employees. They prefer it to some extent.

Sigh...here you go again.

Facts are friendly….you might not like the answer but they aren’t out to get you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My SLAC didn't/doesn't offer it, either . . . I don't think that many do. It's not part of a classic curriculum that focuses on theory and critical thinking skills, versus practical and technical skills (that most graduates from elite schools will pick up on the job).

Companies now a days want people who can hit the ground running, and that often means already having the practical/technical skills on the job. That's why internships are so important.

No I want intelligent people with critical thinking skills. I can train them in the job skills but if they don’t have the ability to think and analyze, they are of no use to me.

lol listen to yourself. So, kid graduating with an Engineering degree lacks "critical thinking skills" or the "ability to think and analyze". Stop posting this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:google investment banking targets before you get to fixated on "business degrees".

Goldman knows they can train employees. They prefer it to some extent.

Sigh...here you go again.

Facts are friendly….you might not like the answer but they aren’t out to get you.

Non-factual statements usually don't get you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My SLAC didn't/doesn't offer it, either . . . I don't think that many do. It's not part of a classic curriculum that focuses on theory and critical thinking skills, versus practical and technical skills (that most graduates from elite schools will pick up on the job).

Companies now a days want people who can hit the ground running, and that often means already having the practical/technical skills on the job. That's why internships are so important.

No I want intelligent people with critical thinking skills. I can train them in the job skills but if they don’t have the ability to think and analyze, they are of no use to me.

Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying in my last response. You are exactly right here!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:google investment banking targets before you get to fixated on "business degrees".

Goldman knows they can train employees. They prefer it to some extent.

Sigh...here you go again.

here you go about what? the targets are based on hiring numbers. it's trackable. its googlable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:google investment banking targets before you get to fixated on "business degrees".

Goldman knows they can train employees. They prefer it to some extent.

Sigh...here you go again.

here you go about what? the targets are based on hiring numbers. it's trackable. its googlable.

blah blah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, Wharton, Stern, Dyson are among the best pipelines to Wall Street.

Stern is at NYU—not an Ivy.

Wharton’s undergraduate degree is Economics, not business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No business major offered at Harvard, Yale, Princeton or Columbia. Cornell the "land grant Ivy" is an exception, and even Penn's Wharton School grants the BS in economics presumably because they don't want to embarrass their graduates with a lowly business degree. Why don't most of the Ivies offer a business major?

Because it is unnecessary if you attend an Ivy/elite. Bachelors in Economics or Math or frankly any major/concentration with the the right courses can and do get top investment banking jobs or can launch a startup. For top consulting, engineering and phyics majors have been the target for many years, not Econ or business, though in general they strongly favor target schools (ivy+). Bachelors of Business Administration is a cushy degree that is not well respected at the top companies. That is why Wharton's is a BSEcon. Economics and math majors at ivy/elite do better than UNC's or UVA's undergrad school of business, which are supposedly good ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, Wharton, Stern, Dyson are among the best pipelines to Wall Street.

Stern is at NYU—not an Ivy.

Wharton’s undergraduate degree is Economics, not business.

+1

[Anonymous]

I’m an IR grad in DC and don’t know any business majors, so apologies to the better educated:

What IS a business degree if you take out the economics and finance? What is the remainder of the coursework?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My SLAC didn't/doesn't offer it, either . . . I don't think that many do. It's not part of a classic curriculum that focuses on theory and critical thinking skills, versus practical and technical skills (that most graduates from elite schools will pick up on the job).

Companies now a days want people who can hit the ground running, and that often means already having the practical/technical skills on the job. That's why internships are so important.

No I want intelligent people with critical thinking skills. I can train them in the job skills but if they don’t have the ability to think and analyze, they are of no use to me.

Correct. This is why target schools exist and why they will be relied on more in the next few years. The major does not matter much, the thinking ability does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My SLAC didn't/doesn't offer it, either . . . I don't think that many do. It's not part of a classic curriculum that focuses on theory and critical thinking skills, versus practical and technical skills (that most graduates from elite schools will pick up on the job).

Companies now a days want people who can hit the ground running, and that often means already having the practical/technical skills on the job. That's why internships are so important.

No I want intelligent people with critical thinking skills. I can train them in the job skills but if they don’t have the ability to think and analyze, they are of no use to me.

Correct. This is why target schools exist and why they will be relied on more in the next few years. The major does not matter much, the thinking ability does.

lol

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My SLAC didn't/doesn't offer it, either . . . I don't think that many do. It's not part of a classic curriculum that focuses on theory and critical thinking skills, versus practical and technical skills (that most graduates from elite schools will pick up on the job).

Companies now a days want people who can hit the ground running, and that often means already having the practical/technical skills on the job. That's why internships are so important.

No I want intelligent people with critical thinking skills. I can train them in the job skills but if they don’t have the ability to think and analyze, they are of no use to me.

Correct. This is why target schools exist and why they will be relied on more in the next few years. The major does not matter much, the thinking ability does.

For what careers or jobs are you referring to where major doesn't matter? Please tell and share with us your vast knowlege.