What do we do??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems need to do some soul searching. How important are trans folk to us? Because they aren’t doing us any favors with flyover state voters.

Trans people are people. Period.

Where reasonable people can disagree, IMO, is over whether a trans woman should be allowed to compete in women's sports if she still benefits from male hormones and the resulting muscle, etc. There could be actual physical standards in competitive sports that address ability and not gender.

+1

I think dems need to do a better job of communicating this (if anything they’ve been pretty silent in response to the MAGA propaganda about liberals being for the they/thems).

I think 2 things can be entirely true.

First, trans people deserve acceptance and civil rights. They should be allowed to express themselves through pronoun/clothing/appearance and have legal protections. They should benefit from medical research like any other American (just like we invest in learning about hormone therapy for menopause or how cancer treatment affects fertility, etc. we should be doing studies to help improve their care).

Second, we can admit the science isn’t well settled yet regarding things like sports participation and how young transitioning should begin. We can say we care about trans kids, but also want to protect kids who are just experiencing transitory gender dysphoria or other mental illness. It’s a sensitive subject and I think it should be approached with compassion all around.

Oh and I’ll add a third thing — I wish the people who are SO up in arms about hypothetical trans women raping people in bathrooms would also be up in arms about all the cis men who commit rape. Like when Brock Turner does it he’s just a good kid who made a few minutes of bad choices … 🤔

[Anonymous]

13:02 here

Wanted to add that I think all the crazy moms of Liberty/parental rights people are going to be looked back on with horror decades from now.

These are the people who would have been freaking out about Ruby Bridges.

First it was desegregation that was going to destroy America. And then for a long time it was gay people.

But somehow kids are resilient and mixing with people of other races and sexual orientation didn’t ruin them.

Now it’s trans people and gender identity. Parents flip out about how it’s a perversion to teach kids about this stuff. But I can say first hand it’s truly nbd if you don’t make it one.

It starts young — sure boys can wear dresses. Everyone gets to wear what makes them feel good.

Then you can talk about how sometimes people’s insides don’t match their outsides. They were born a girl, but feel more like a boy so they like to use a name and pronouns that feel right.

My kids are mid/upper elementary now and know about these things but do not really care. We have a trans neighbor. They had a few questions at first when they learned this like 2 years ago, but it has come up exactly zero times ever since. Kids are self centered and won’t freak out about what other people do unless they’re taught it somehow affects them.

Can’t wait until history looks back on these hateful parents for what they truly are.

[Anonymous]

It’s good for Democrats to support children transitioning and to move history forward on this issue so the parental rights people are looked back on as hateful. It’s a beautiful thing. But if we simultaneously say we aren’t trying to do that, some voters will consider us liars. It’s probably worth it. It’s easier to change history by playing it cool and not activating the opposition. So we can push, deny, push, deny, and eventually the old parental rights parents will be gone and we’ll have a more pro-trans society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

[Anonymous]

One good thing the Biden administration did was to name a transwoman to one of the nation’s most important health care posts. We made Rachel Levine an Admiral and a Health Care Czar. As a role model, she’s quite an improvement over Caitlyn Jenner!
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/health/transgender-minors-surgeries.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s good for Democrats to support children transitioning and to move history forward on this issue so the parental rights people are looked back on as hateful. It’s a beautiful thing. But if we simultaneously say we aren’t trying to do that, some voters will consider us liars. It’s probably worth it. It’s easier to change history by playing it cool and not activating the opposition. So we can push, deny, push, deny, and eventually the old parental rights parents will be gone and we’ll have a more pro-trans society.

Except the exact opposite is happening, time to reevaluate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

No dimwit, like people that aren't 80 year old unlikable selfish jerks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trans rights are human rights, and some principles are more important than winning elections with the help of bigoted voters.

Yes, yes. You keep pursuing that path on trans rights. That's a greet shiny object!




Meanwhile...

VOA journalists put on administrative leave after Trump axes parent agency

"The president targeted the U.S. Agency for Global Media, which is the parent company of Voice of America’s (VOA), as well as the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in the Smithsonian Institution, which is a think tank, and the Institute of Museum and Library Services, which is an agency that supports libraries, archives and museums in every state.

He also dismantled the United States Interagency Council on Homelessness, which aims to prevent and end homelessness in the U.S., the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, which focuses on preventing, minimizing, and resolving work stoppages and labor disputes, the Community Development Financial Institutions Fund, which aims to expand economic opportunity for underserved communities, and the Minority Business Development Agency, which promotes growth of minority-owned businesses."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5196704-trump-executive-order-federal-agencies-eliminate/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

Come on, just look around, I am a lib and the person who mainly brought us into this ginormous s$itshow is a 82 yr old white man who reneged on his promise to be one term president, refused to announce he was not running for a second term and to allow younger, capable candidates of all colors, sexual orientations and genders to face off in a presidential primary. And all this because of his lust for power and delusion that he was the only one capable to win an election, in addition to total lack of self awareness concerning his age related decline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

Come on, just look around, I am a lib and the person who mainly brought us into this ginormous s$itshow is a 82 yr old white man who reneged on his promise to be one term president, refused to announce he was not running for a second term and to allow younger, capable candidates of all colors, sexual orientations and genders to face off in a presidential primary. And all this because of his lust for power and delusion that he was the only one capable to win an election, in addition to total lack of self awareness concerning his age related decline.

+1000 if not for the god awful Joe frickin Biden, we wouldn't be enduring this Trump second term nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Stop spending money.

And us your money to support local causes you believe in (like public radio or tv or food banks.)

Foods going to get really expensive at some point too.

Stop supporting billionaires and Trumper local businesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

Come on, just look around, I am a lib and the person who mainly brought us into this ginormous s$itshow is a 82 yr old white man who reneged on his promise to be one term president, refused to announce he was not running for a second term and to allow younger, capable candidates of all colors, sexual orientations and genders to face off in a presidential primary. And all this because of his lust for power and delusion that he was the only one capable to win an election, in addition to total lack of self awareness concerning his age related decline.

+1000 if not for the god awful Joe frickin Biden, we wouldn't be enduring this Trump second term nightmare.

Focus people

Biden’s gone. You just want to bully ache?

What now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

Come on, just look around, I am a lib and the person who mainly brought us into this ginormous s$itshow is a 82 yr old white man who reneged on his promise to be one term president, refused to announce he was not running for a second term and to allow younger, capable candidates of all colors, sexual orientations and genders to face off in a presidential primary. And all this because of his lust for power and delusion that he was the only one capable to win an election, in addition to total lack of self awareness concerning his age related decline.

+1000 if not for the god awful Joe frickin Biden, we wouldn't be enduring this Trump second term nightmare.

I think it’s a copout to blame Joe Biden. He is us. We wanted him bad in 2020. We insisted from 2021 to 2024 that we was doing a great job. We embraced the mask mandates, the covid mandates, the open borders, and on and on. We denied that he was senile. We were happy for him to run again in the primaries. We were happy the DNC made it impossible for RFK Jr to fairly participate in the primaries. He didn’t like Pfizer, but we did, so good riddance. We rallied behind Kamala. We didn’t demand an open process. We voted for her. So. While it’s true that we aren’t the bosses of the Party, dcurbanmoms are generally On Board with everything the Party does. Yes, Biden sucks. Bet we too lost to Trump. We too drove the flyover folks to the Republican Party. And we should ask ourselves what we did wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

Come on, just look around, I am a lib and the person who mainly brought us into this ginormous s$itshow is a 82 yr old white man who reneged on his promise to be one term president, refused to announce he was not running for a second term and to allow younger, capable candidates of all colors, sexual orientations and genders to face off in a presidential primary. And all this because of his lust for power and delusion that he was the only one capable to win an election, in addition to total lack of self awareness concerning his age related decline.

+1000 if not for the god awful Joe frickin Biden, we wouldn't be enduring this Trump second term nightmare.

If we blame Biden, we don’t have to change. We don’t have to reckon with the Covid stuff, the trans stuff, the inflation stuff, the corruption stuff. We can just hope the voters who abandoned us suffer economically, and then we can just win with Buttigieg or whoever. No self-reflection necessary, no policy changes necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They key is to never accept that we were beaten in a democratic election. We have to think of this as an illegitimate coup. We can’t plan for the next election. We have to respond DAILY to Trump. WEMOD? what would Michelle Obama do? Trump goes low, she goes high. We need to take up space like she does, resist like she does, sass like she does. And maybe, just maybe, we can save the world.

It would have been much easier in the recent past and will be much easier in the future if Dems can just nominate normal/average POTUS candidates that would prevent someone as awful as Trump from ever gaining the power of the POTUS office. What you are suggesting sounds like going around your arse to get to your elbow.

Normal/average POTUS, you mean white men?

Come on, just look around, I am a lib and the person who mainly brought us into this ginormous s$itshow is a 82 yr old white man who reneged on his promise to be one term president, refused to announce he was not running for a second term and to allow younger, capable candidates of all colors, sexual orientations and genders to face off in a presidential primary. And all this because of his lust for power and delusion that he was the only one capable to win an election, in addition to total lack of self awareness concerning his age related decline.

+1000 if not for the god awful Joe frickin Biden, we wouldn't be enduring this Trump second term nightmare.

I think it’s a copout to blame Joe Biden. He is us. We wanted him bad in 2020. We insisted from 2021 to 2024 that we was doing a great job. We embraced the mask mandates, the covid mandates, the open borders, and on and on. We denied that he was senile. We were happy for him to run again in the primaries. We were happy the DNC made it impossible for RFK Jr to fairly participate in the primaries. He didn’t like Pfizer, but we did, so good riddance. We rallied behind Kamala. We didn’t demand an open process. We voted for her. So. While it’s true that we aren’t the bosses of the Party, dcurbanmoms are generally On Board with everything the Party does. Yes, Biden sucks. Bet we too lost to Trump. We too drove the flyover folks to the Republican Party. And we should ask ourselves what we did wrong.

You may have wanted Biden "bad" in 2020 but those of us with at least half a brain already knew he was a piss poor leader and a weak communicator and many of us were smart enough to know that electing 80 year old people as 1st term presidents is a recipe for disaster 4 years down the road.

Biden was a better option than Trump in 2020 but so was Chewbacca and the kid from Paw Patrol. Support for Biden led to a Trump second term. Slow clap for the ignorant Biden supporters.