Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

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I have the ability to move to three different countries but am not leaving. I do not believe this is the same as 1930s Germany and in fact think the people who are saying that are insulting the victims of the Holocaust.

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Anonymous wrote:I have the ability to move to three different countries but am not leaving. I do not believe this is the same as 1930s Germany and in fact think the people who are saying that are insulting the victims of the Holocaust.

The Holocaust didn't start with gas chambers, it was decades in the making. Many, many people (who would know) are sounding the alarm and saying the parallels are unmistakable. Listen to them.

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Anonymous wrote:The ones with the means to leave aren't that worried and those what are worried enough lack the means to leave.

+1 most Americans do not qualify for another citizenship or have a high level skill that makes it easy to leave.

Where are the skilled workers going to go willingly? They have to accept a steep salary cut.

I think the OB/GYNs for one would be happy to trade a lower salary for the right to practice evidence-based medicine on a healthier maternal population without fear of being imprisoned. Plus no obscene medmal bills.

And pretty much every civilized country would be happy to have them.

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For those of you who have the option-what is the line? The moment you say “this is it.” I’m wondering about people who are first or second generation immigrants. How do you weigh your home countries’ issues with potentially living in a fascist state?

My home country does not have significant issues. No place is perfect, but it ranks ahead of United States on those lists of freedom, education, literacy, clean environment, safety etc. I live in United States because my husband is from here. Not all immigrants are escaping something.

Well good for you. But home country in South America does have issues…but at least it’s not fascist.

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Anonymous wrote:I would if I could. I don’t have the financial wherewithal. All my accounts are American. You can’t have offshore accounts as emergency backups like our parents and grandparents

Oh but you can just look into.

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Anonymous wrote:I have the ability to move to three different countries but am not leaving. I do not believe this is the same as 1930s Germany and in fact think the people who are saying that are insulting the victims of the Holocaust.

Well they’re not coming for the Jews this time, not yet. Just the libs, and the federal workers, and the immigrants, and the trans kids, and the disabled. And to some extent the Muslims.

Not the same at all. This time the descendants of some survivors are helping out (Steven Miller). Actually, some of the Jews helped then, too, and not entirely under duress.

Fascism doesn’t follow the same exact pattern every time. It looked a little different in Italy. It’s very adaptable to local populations.

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Anonymous wrote:I have the ability to move to three different countries but am not leaving. I do not believe this is the same as 1930s Germany and in fact think the people who are saying that are insulting the victims of the Holocaust.

The Holocaust didn't start with gas chambers, it was decades in the making. Many, many people (who would know) are sounding the alarm and saying the parallels are unmistakable. Listen to them.

+1. People who have experienced fascism are sounding the alarms. Please listen. https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000009923409/government-oppression-power-tyranny.html

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Anonymous wrote:Not hyperbole, would you really leave and move to another country? What would be the final draw for you?

Yes! If Israel weren't in such a delicate situation right now, we would be there in a heartbeat. I don't know what the final straw would be but I fear it will come in the next 4 years. Hopefully Israel will have calmed down by then.

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Anonymous wrote:The ones with the means to leave aren't that worried and those what are worried enough lack the means to leave.

+1 most Americans do not qualify for another citizenship or have a high level skill that makes it easy to leave.

Where are the skilled workers going to go willingly? They have to accept a steep salary cut.

I think the OB/GYNs for one would be happy to trade a lower salary for the right to practice evidence-based medicine on a healthier maternal population without fear of being imprisoned. Plus no obscene medmal bills.

And pretty much every civilized country would be happy to have them.

I'm in a group for doctors who are working on leaving the US. The moderator mentioned today that 3000 new people have joined it since the election.

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Anonymous wrote:I have the ability to move to three different countries but am not leaving. I do not believe this is the same as 1930s Germany and in fact think the people who are saying that are insulting the victims of the Holocaust.

Well they’re not coming for the Jews this time, not yet. Just the libs, and the federal workers, and the immigrants, and the trans kids, and the disabled. And to some extent the Muslims.

Not the same at all. This time the descendants of some survivors are helping out (Steven Miller). Actually, some of the Jews helped then, too, and not entirely under duress.

Fascism doesn’t follow the same exact pattern every time. It looked a little different in Italy. It’s very adaptable to local populations.

They weren't implying that anyone is "coming for the Jews." Are you usually this pedantic?

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Anonymous wrote:The ones with the means to leave aren't that worried and those what are worried enough lack the means to leave.

+1 most Americans do not qualify for another citizenship or have a high level skill that makes it easy to leave.

Where are the skilled workers going to go willingly? They have to accept a steep salary cut.

I think the OB/GYNs for one would be happy to trade a lower salary for the right to practice evidence-based medicine on a healthier maternal population without fear of being imprisoned. Plus no obscene medmal bills.

And pretty much every civilized country would be happy to have them.

I'm in a group for doctors who are working on leaving the US. The moderator mentioned today that 3000 new people have joined it since the election.

Do you think a £63k NHS doctor salary in the UK can pay off the outstanding med school loans?

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Anonymous wrote:I have the ability to move to three different countries but am not leaving. I do not believe this is the same as 1930s Germany and in fact think the people who are saying that are insulting the victims of the Holocaust.

Well they’re not coming for the Jews this time, not yet. Just the libs, and the federal workers, and the immigrants, and the trans kids, and the disabled. And to some extent the Muslims.

Not the same at all. This time the descendants of some survivors are helping out (Steven Miller). Actually, some of the Jews helped then, too, and not entirely under duress.

Fascism doesn’t follow the same exact pattern every time. It looked a little different in Italy. It’s very adaptable to local populations.

They weren't implying that anyone is "coming for the Jews." Are you usually this pedantic?

NP they literally said this is "insulting to victims of the Holocaust". What do you think they were talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:The ones with the means to leave aren't that worried and those what are worried enough lack the means to leave.

+1 most Americans do not qualify for another citizenship or have a high level skill that makes it easy to leave.

Where are the skilled workers going to go willingly? They have to accept a steep salary cut.

I think the OB/GYNs for one would be happy to trade a lower salary for the right to practice evidence-based medicine on a healthier maternal population without fear of being imprisoned. Plus no obscene medmal bills.

And pretty much every civilized country would be happy to have them.

I'm in a group for doctors who are working on leaving the US. The moderator mentioned today that 3000 new people have joined it since the election.

Do you think a £63k NHS doctor salary in the UK can pay off the outstanding med school loans?

If you're fleeing to the UK to leave our fascist dictatorship I think you can probably just stop paying your loans.

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Anonymous wrote:I have the ability to move to three different countries but am not leaving. I do not believe this is the same as 1930s Germany and in fact think the people who are saying that are insulting the victims of the Holocaust.

Well they’re not coming for the Jews this time, not yet. Just the libs, and the federal workers, and the immigrants, and the trans kids, and the disabled. And to some extent the Muslims.

Not the same at all. This time the descendants of some survivors are helping out (Steven Miller). Actually, some of the Jews helped then, too, and not entirely under duress.

Fascism doesn’t follow the same exact pattern every time. It looked a little different in Italy. It’s very adaptable to local populations.

They weren't implying that anyone is "coming for the Jews." Are you usually this pedantic?

NP they literally said this is "insulting to victims of the Holocaust". What do you think they were talking about?

That being fired from a mediocre federal job cannot be compared to being literally put and gassed to death in a concentration camp?

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Anonymous wrote:The ones with the means to leave aren't that worried and those what are worried enough lack the means to leave.

+1 most Americans do not qualify for another citizenship or have a high level skill that makes it easy to leave.

Where are the skilled workers going to go willingly? They have to accept a steep salary cut.

I think the OB/GYNs for one would be happy to trade a lower salary for the right to practice evidence-based medicine on a healthier maternal population without fear of being imprisoned. Plus no obscene medmal bills.

And pretty much every civilized country would be happy to have them.

I'm in a group for doctors who are working on leaving the US. The moderator mentioned today that 3000 new people have joined it since the election.

Do you think a £63k NHS doctor salary in the UK can pay off the outstanding med school loans?

You think doctors who go through the trouble of leaving the US care about paying back their med school loans? The ones held by the federal government they are fleeing?

THINK a minute there.