For those of you who have the option-what is the line? The moment you say “this is it.” I’m wondering about people who are first or second generation immigrants. How do you weigh your home countries’ issues with potentially living in a fascist state? |
First generation here. My home country has fascist tendencies, fewer work opportunities and more discrimination against us than the US, plus more general economic issues (right now, obviously that can change!). Some things are better, but now our reality now is much easier than back there, even with Trump (whom I did not vote for). So this is what I weigh. |
We will leave if freedom of the press is restricted or there are limits to free speech for Americans. If we reach a point where the military is using force on protestors, or people are being sent "away", however you want to define that, for being dissidents then we are on the first flight out of here. |
Yes, already making plans. If I didn’t have kids, I would have been gone after the election. |
That is coming. It's step six in Curtis Yarvin's plan. |
I am a foreigner, married to a US citizen and living here with a Green Card. If United States will turn into a country that matches the rhetorics of the last few weeks, then yes, we would return to Europe.
I was born in Soviet Union, and have no interest in living in or having my kids grow up in a country where the leader sees f*ng Putin as a role model. |
If my husband did not have a year left on his pension I would seriously look to go somewhere but I don’t know what country would take us. |
My home country does not have significant issues. No place is perfect, but it ranks ahead of United States on those lists of freedom, education, literacy, clean environment, safety etc. I live in United States because my husband is from here. Not all immigrants are escaping something. |
No, our ancestors have been here for hundreds of years. We are older, so if our social security or health care are cut off I plan to go out with a bang and take as many of these facists as I can down with me. |
My spouse and our children are getting citizenship to an EU country with a strong economy and good infrastructure, education, and healthcare. The process is just starting and it could take up to a year as we need to gather paperwork, but the country is providing some needed archival records so it’s mostly crossing t’s and dotting i’s before processing. We have no desire to move there permanently at this moment in time, but who knows how we’ll feel in 2027? It’s about having options for us and for our children. |
That’s already happened. |
It is a big deal to leave your home country. It would probably take violence, starvation, or persecution for me to leave. I hope that is a dramatic line of thinking and it doesn’t get that far. That is what I imagine it takes for most people. |
Where would you go? It makes sense when liberals consider leaving. Most developed countries are more liberal than the US. |
Not really. People leave for all sorts of reasons. Think about all of the retirees living in Costa Rica or Thailand, or Europeans living in the States. Someone who grew up in London wasn't escaping starvation, they just wanted a different way of life. I can see more Americans moving back to Europe, many many Americans qualify for European citizenship through grandparents or great grandparents. |
They will go to Thailand where they can be a gross passport bro with all the other perverted old American men. |