Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is MCPS required to provide medical care to students even outside school hours? I think we're asking too much from MCPS.

Exactly. There are plenty of other resources in this county for students to access. This is not something MCPS should be responsible for.

Can you please share with us where, especially without insurance or bad insurance?

Children are eligible for Medicaid. For those who are not eligible for Medicaid, there is MCHP, which also provides benefit for undocumented immigrants.

https://health.maryland.gov/mmcp/chp/pages/home.aspx

There are also several non-profits, that get grant money (from taxpayers) that provide no-cost or low-cost care. Like this one, for example in Silver Spring.

https://www.maryscenter.org/medical/children-and-teens/pediatrics/

And, you think it’s that easy! It’s not and there are not enough Medicaid providers.

Yes, these services are very limited. We should advocate for better services for all the people in our community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is MCPS required to provide medical care to students even outside school hours? I think we're asking too much from MCPS.

Exactly. There are plenty of other resources in this county for students to access. This is not something MCPS should be responsible for.

Can you please share with us where, especially without insurance or bad insurance?

Children are eligible for Medicaid. For those who are not eligible for Medicaid, there is MCHP, which also provides benefit for undocumented immigrants.

https://health.maryland.gov/mmcp/chp/pages/home.aspx

There are also several non-profits, that get grant money (from taxpayers) that provide no-cost or low-cost care. Like this one, for example in Silver Spring.

https://www.maryscenter.org/medical/children-and-teens/pediatrics/

And, you think it’s that easy! It’s not and there are not enough Medicaid providers.

And you think it’s easy enough that MCPS should throw taxpayer money at the problem to pretend to fix it.

The school system needs to focus on education. The data shows that MCPS is struggling with that goal. Our educational outcomes are abysmal.

Why are you trying to force MCPS to provide additional welfare support when that is something that needs to be addressed by the County?

Advocate for more Medicaid providers if you see that as an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is MCPS required to provide medical care to students even outside school hours? I think we're asking too much from MCPS.

Exactly. There are plenty of other resources in this county for students to access. This is not something MCPS should be responsible for.

Can you please share with us where, especially without insurance or bad insurance?

Children are eligible for Medicaid. For those who are not eligible for Medicaid, there is MCHP, which also provides benefit for undocumented immigrants.

https://health.maryland.gov/mmcp/chp/pages/home.aspx

There are also several non-profits, that get grant money (from taxpayers) that provide no-cost or low-cost care. Like this one, for example in Silver Spring.

https://www.maryscenter.org/medical/children-and-teens/pediatrics/

And, you think it’s that easy! It’s not and there are not enough Medicaid providers.

And you think it’s easy enough that MCPS should throw taxpayer money at the problem to pretend to fix it.

The school system needs to focus on education. The data shows that MCPS is struggling with that goal. Our educational outcomes are abysmal.

Why are you trying to force MCPS to provide additional welfare support when that is something that needs to be addressed by the County?

Advocate for more Medicaid providers if you see that as an issue.

+1

I agree with you

Though I suspect the reason MCPS has taken this type of thing on is because they are legally required to serve these kids (as in enroll them in school) whereas the county can mostly just ignore or arrest them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.

If kids don't have the basics they cannot learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is MCPS required to provide medical care to students even outside school hours? I think we're asking too much from MCPS.

Exactly. There are plenty of other resources in this county for students to access. This is not something MCPS should be responsible for.

Can you please share with us where, especially without insurance or bad insurance?

Children are eligible for Medicaid. For those who are not eligible for Medicaid, there is MCHP, which also provides benefit for undocumented immigrants.

https://health.maryland.gov/mmcp/chp/pages/home.aspx

There are also several non-profits, that get grant money (from taxpayers) that provide no-cost or low-cost care. Like this one, for example in Silver Spring.

https://www.maryscenter.org/medical/children-and-teens/pediatrics/

And, you think it’s that easy! It’s not and there are not enough Medicaid providers.

And you think it’s easy enough that MCPS should throw taxpayer money at the problem to pretend to fix it.

The school system needs to focus on education. The data shows that MCPS is struggling with that goal. Our educational outcomes are abysmal.

Why are you trying to force MCPS to provide additional welfare support when that is something that needs to be addressed by the County?

Advocate for more Medicaid providers if you see that as an issue.

Medicaid pays so low that its not affortable to providers. Yes, these are kids and the more you do now, the better future they have which will cost us less in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is MCPS required to provide medical care to students even outside school hours? I think we're asking too much from MCPS.

Exactly. There are plenty of other resources in this county for students to access. This is not something MCPS should be responsible for.

Can you please share with us where, especially without insurance or bad insurance?

Children are eligible for Medicaid. For those who are not eligible for Medicaid, there is MCHP, which also provides benefit for undocumented immigrants.

https://health.maryland.gov/mmcp/chp/pages/home.aspx

There are also several non-profits, that get grant money (from taxpayers) that provide no-cost or low-cost care. Like this one, for example in Silver Spring.

https://www.maryscenter.org/medical/children-and-teens/pediatrics/

And, you think it’s that easy! It’s not and there are not enough Medicaid providers.

And you think it’s easy enough that MCPS should throw taxpayer money at the problem to pretend to fix it.

The school system needs to focus on education. The data shows that MCPS is struggling with that goal. Our educational outcomes are abysmal.

Why are you trying to force MCPS to provide additional welfare support when that is something that needs to be addressed by the County?

Advocate for more Medicaid providers if you see that as an issue.

Medicaid pays so low that its not affortable to providers. Yes, these are kids and the more you do now, the better future they have which will cost us less in the long run.

That's true of a LOT of kids in MCPS that are not getting the services they need. How many kids lack basic literacy skills? I don't mean recently arrived immigrants. I mean kids who were born and grew up here. Can we please teach the kids to read?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.

So, let's cut MCPS School Psychologists and Counselors too. Their job description is similar. And it's not education related right? They don't teach.

So now the kid with a 504 for anxiety can no longer show up to their counselor in the middle of the day to cry about something. It's not MCPS' job.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/personnel/classification/descriptions/description.aspx?fn=6980-637

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/personnel/classification/descriptions/description.aspx?fn=0933-288
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/studentservices/mentalhealth/psych/333012/

Don't just cut services that serve immigrant populations. If you are saying MCPS doesn't have to provide wrap-around services, then make it apply to everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.

So, let's cut MCPS School Psychologists and Counselors too. Their job description is similar. And it's not education related right? They don't teach.

So now the kid with a 504 for anxiety can no longer show up to their counselor in the middle of the day to cry about something. It's not MCPS' job.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/personnel/classification/descriptions/description.aspx?fn=6980-637

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/personnel/classification/descriptions/description.aspx?fn=0933-288
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/studentservices/mentalhealth/psych/333012/

Don't just cut services that serve immigrant populations. If you are saying MCPS doesn't have to provide wrap-around services, then make it apply to everyone.

OMG stop being so dramatic. What are the EML therapeutic counseling caseloads by month from 2022-2025?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.

So, let's cut MCPS School Psychologists and Counselors too. Their job description is similar. And it's not education related right? They don't teach.

So now the kid with a 504 for anxiety can no longer show up to their counselor in the middle of the day to cry about something. It's not MCPS' job.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/personnel/classification/descriptions/description.aspx?fn=6980-637

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/personnel/classification/descriptions/description.aspx?fn=0933-288
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/studentservices/mentalhealth/psych/333012/

Don't just cut services that serve immigrant populations. If you are saying MCPS doesn't have to provide wrap-around services, then make it apply to everyone.

So you're saying we can't have any counselors that serve all students (including immigrants) because we are funding 14 instead of 26 therapeutic counselors specifically for newly arrived EMLs? Do you hear yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is who we talk about when we say, central office includes student facing positions and why we can't just say 'Cut CO' without understanding who it impacts.

https://chng.it/swDy7drz2y

Why aren't these services being provided by the county? MCPS is a school system. We are setting it up to fail if we expect it to provide all wraparound services. What next, are we going to put the aquatic centers under MCPS responsibility because students who can swim are safer? Ride On busses, because students sometimes use them to get to and from school?

Let the school system focus on education and let the county provide needed services. If budget is an issue, the county council can create policies to invite business growth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is MCPS required to provide medical care to students even outside school hours? I think we're asking too much from MCPS.

Exactly. There are plenty of other resources in this county for students to access. This is not something MCPS should be responsible for.

Can you please share with us where, especially without insurance or bad insurance?

Children are eligible for Medicaid. For those who are not eligible for Medicaid, there is MCHP, which also provides benefit for undocumented immigrants.

https://health.maryland.gov/mmcp/chp/pages/home.aspx

There are also several non-profits, that get grant money (from taxpayers) that provide no-cost or low-cost care. Like this one, for example in Silver Spring.

https://www.maryscenter.org/medical/children-and-teens/pediatrics/

And, you think it’s that easy! It’s not and there are not enough Medicaid providers.

And you think it’s easy enough that MCPS should throw taxpayer money at the problem to pretend to fix it.

The school system needs to focus on education. The data shows that MCPS is struggling with that goal. Our educational outcomes are abysmal.

Why are you trying to force MCPS to provide additional welfare support when that is something that needs to be addressed by the County?

Advocate for more Medicaid providers if you see that as an issue.

Medicaid pays so low that its not affortable to providers. Yes, these are kids and the more you do now, the better future they have which will cost us less in the long run.

Fine. Then advocate for better Medicaid reimbursements to provider. I'm a provider and I know all about Medicaid reimbursements being low.

But don't expect MCPS to provide everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.

If kids don't have the basics they cannot learn.

But MCPS goal is to provide an EDUCATION. Let MCPS focus on that and allow the County and they myriad of publicly funded non-profits to provide healthcare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid needs a therapeutic counselor they should seek that outside the school.

Let's keep the cuts going then since MCPS also provides occupational and physical therapy to children and students with IEPs from age 3 to 21. Or does this position bother you because it serves immigrant children? Should we cut PPWs as well? School Psychologists? Not provide ANY services?

It's 26 counselors for the whole county, they only serve students who truly need this service, we're not talking about an extra position in each school.

Better solution. Taylor is asking for more money. Let’s fund one at every school.

MCPS is not funded enough to solve all of society's ills. Where does everybody think this money is coming from?

Taylor just gave a $5 million dollar federal grant to the electric bus vendor without a dime for MCPS. A straight up gift. That is true love.

Is it time to admit that Taylor is not the benevolent lord and savior his supporters painted him out to be?

That is one way to look at it.

Another way to look at it is that he is cutting spending in one area (that only benefits certain kids), so that MCPS can use that money for something else that is even more necessary and more aligned with the goal of EDUCATING our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is who we talk about when we say, central office includes student facing positions and why we can't just say 'Cut CO' without understanding who it impacts.

https://chng.it/swDy7drz2y

If you would like people to sign your petition, it would be helpful to provide more information.

What are their caseloads? Do they work from home?

Do you have data that shows the impact of these employees on the students? Is there data that funding these positions improves outcomes for the students?

We know for a fact that smaller class sizes benefits students. Is it possible that these Central Office workers would be able to help more kids if they were actually reassigned to be in classrooms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is MCPS required to provide medical care to students even outside school hours? I think we're asking too much from MCPS.

Exactly. There are plenty of other resources in this county for students to access. This is not something MCPS should be responsible for.

Can you please share with us where, especially without insurance or bad insurance?

Children are eligible for Medicaid. For those who are not eligible for Medicaid, there is MCHP, which also provides benefit for undocumented immigrants.

https://health.maryland.gov/mmcp/chp/pages/home.aspx

There are also several non-profits, that get grant money (from taxpayers) that provide no-cost or low-cost care. Like this one, for example in Silver Spring.

https://www.maryscenter.org/medical/children-and-teens/pediatrics/

And, you think it’s that easy! It’s not and there are not enough Medicaid providers.

And you think it’s easy enough that MCPS should throw taxpayer money at the problem to pretend to fix it.

The school system needs to focus on education. The data shows that MCPS is struggling with that goal. Our educational outcomes are abysmal.

Why are you trying to force MCPS to provide additional welfare support when that is something that needs to be addressed by the County?

Advocate for more Medicaid providers if you see that as an issue.

Medicaid pays so low that its not affortable to providers. Yes, these are kids and the more you do now, the better future they have which will cost us less in the long run.

That's true of a LOT of kids in MCPS that are not getting the services they need. How many kids lack basic literacy skills? I don't mean recently arrived immigrants. I mean kids who were born and grew up here. Can we please teach the kids to read?

One has nothing to do with the other. Talk to Taylor and the BOE