White House suspended financial aid programs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:more towards merit based

so no more GI Bill?

Any thoughts on what this means for the GI Bill?

The VA canceled jobs to new hires, so why wouldn’t it be impacted?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-office-suspends-federal-financial-aid/story?id=118167742

NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/trump-federal-freeze-grants-student-loans.html

I thought they were next on the chopping block (re: Trump promises.)

They’ve said federal aid programs and FAFSA management would move to the Treasury Dept, which is where it was before the Ed Dept was founded.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:besides being immoral, it's illegal.

congress controls spending. if it's been approved by congress, it's been approved. any memo from the White House should be ignored. just as if Nancy Pelosi nominated someone to the cabinet, that would be ignored.

this is fundamental to how our government works.

The media doesn't help with these sensational headlines. Schumer spoke out against it and did point out it was not legal. But now, lawyers will have to be hired to proven it is not legal -- maybe.

If this happens, we will eventually be out of jobs.

I don't think people understand the extent here, if this isn't stopped, the damage will be incalculable. Farm subsidies? Rural hospitals? Any kind of infrastructure projects. I could go on.

Unfortunately, I think things need to grind to a halt, a couple of deaths related to hospital/nursing home funding problems, kids unable to attend college, general catastrophes before all Americans realize how integral the federal government is to everyday life. People are ignorant to what a positive role government plays in their lives.

Well the start market will tank as a result, so maybe that will change minds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-office-suspends-federal-financial-aid/story?id=118167742

NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/trump-federal-freeze-grants-student-loans.html

I thought they were next on the chopping block (re: Trump promises.)

No, that was never proposed.

[Anonymous]

Guys this is related to the “big beautiful bill” Trump wants. He’s going to hold funding hostage to make Dems or anyone who opposes him to get what he wants. Shrewd. Probably illegal.

If only regular people had someoene willing to negotiate like this. Why is it only right wing men and billionaires (right wing men) who get the best representation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-office-suspends-federal-financial-aid/story?id=118167742

NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/trump-federal-freeze-grants-student-loans.html

I thought they were next on the chopping block (re: Trump promises.)

They’ve said federal aid programs and FAFSA management would move to the Treasury Dept, which is where it was before the Ed Dept was founded.

Just trying to understand - how would that help? you just moved head count/funding to another department.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-office-suspends-federal-financial-aid/story?id=118167742

NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/trump-federal-freeze-grants-student-loans.html

I thought they were next on the chopping block (re: Trump promises.)

No, that was never proposed.

Why lie? Everyone too lazy to check?

"President-elect Donald Trump may break from the Republican Party of old in many ways, but not when it comes to how the party views the federal government's role in education.

"One other thing I'll be doing very early in the administration is closing up the Department of Education in Washington D.C., and sending all education and education work and needs back to the states," Trump said in a video posted to social media in October 2023"

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5181966/a-look-at-the-potential-impact-of-shutting-down-the-department-of-education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-office-suspends-federal-financial-aid/story?id=118167742

NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/trump-federal-freeze-grants-student-loans.html

I thought they were next on the chopping block (re: Trump promises.)

They’ve said federal aid programs and FAFSA management would move to the Treasury Dept, which is where it was before the Ed Dept was founded.

Just trying to understand - how would that help? you just moved head count/funding to another department.

I didn’t say it would help. I was just responding to the pp who said the Ed Dept was next on the chopping block. That doesn’t mean FAFSA and Pell, etc, are on the chopping block. Those programs will just move.

However. Many other programs that Ed Dept runs, as well as many people, would be cut. That’s where the funding cuts are. More importantly, they want to remove federal oversight and push all that to the state or local level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-office-suspends-federal-financial-aid/story?id=118167742

NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/trump-federal-freeze-grants-student-loans.html

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I thought they were next on the chopping block (re: Trump promises.)

No, that was never proposed.

Why lie? Everyone too lazy to check?

"President-elect Donald Trump may break from the Republican Party of old in many ways, but not when it comes to how the party views the federal government's role in education.

"One other thing I'll be doing very early in the administration is closing up the Department of Education in Washington D.C., and sending all education and education work and needs back to the states," Trump said in a video posted to social media in October 2023"

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/nx-s1-5181966/a-look-at-the-potential-impact-of-shutting-down-the-department-of-education

Pell and FAFSA are administered by DOE but are authorized under separate statutes. Closing DOE does not end them. In fact, these programs pre-date the existence of DOE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interpreting by adopting the worldview that informs the memo, I fear an end to financial aid at universities in blue states, via the 'no DEI/woke/green' clause, but not in 'anti-woke' red states.

I think he's going to try to do this with all aid, not just education based aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:besides being immoral, it's illegal.

congress controls spending. if it's been approved by congress, it's been approved. any memo from the White House should be ignored. just as if Nancy Pelosi nominated someone to the cabinet, that would be ignored.

this is fundamental to how our government works.

The media doesn't help with these sensational headlines. Schumer spoke out against it and did point out it was not legal. But now, lawyers will have to be hired to proven it is not legal -- maybe.

If this happens, we will eventually be out of jobs.

I don't think people understand the extent here, if this isn't stopped, the damage will be incalculable. Farm subsidies? Rural hospitals? Any kind of infrastructure projects. I could go on.

Unfortunately, I think things need to grind to a halt, a couple of deaths related to hospital/nursing home funding problems, kids unable to attend college, general catastrophes before all Americans realize how integral the federal government is to everyday life. People are ignorant to what a positive role government plays in their lives.

This sounds sensationalist but is likely correct. Even in this thread people are downplaying the threat of an illegal EO which grinds funding to a halt. Even if Pell grants and financial aid aren't impacted, which is incredibly vague and leans towards them being targets, so so so much university funding is federal research and other grants. U of C is already advising not to spend any grant dollars not directly related to salary. It's a nightmare that isn't bound the bubble of "Washington" but will be felt my literally every person who exists somewhat in society.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this doesn’t apply to individual stuff like federal subsidized loans and Pell grants?
The “green new deal” stuff is the craziest. I wouldn’t even know what that might encompass!

Pell grants are technically issued to colleges so it's possible.

It's bad, but they've also stopped AIDS treatments that are currently on the ground in Africa. They literally want to throw them away instead of just giving them to people and saving lives.

So .. here we are.

Sick country we have become in just two weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"students who rely on federal financial aid to pay for tuition and other costs are not expected to see any disruption from the pause"

https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-day-9

THat’s an assumption based on the idea that these are “grants received directly by individuals.” But in fact much of this aid is not “directly received by individuals”; it’s received by institutions, that then disburse it to individuals.

Meals on Wheels is currently having this exact fight publicly with the administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys this is related to the “big beautiful bill” Trump wants. He’s going to hold funding hostage to make Dems or anyone who opposes him to get what he wants. Shrewd. Probably illegal.

If only regular people had someoene willing to negotiate like this. Why is it only right wing men and billionaires (right wing men) who get the best representation?

Definitely illegal.

Courts will enjoin this by the end of the week.

[Anonymous]

The headlines are not sensational enough. Those of you who live in states with senators and representatives need to call them now. This is impoundment, and it’s illegal. This is an actual five-alarm fire, and they need to act like it.

Agreed. This impacts so many vital and behind the scenes services for Americans.