White House suspended financial aid programs

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:besides being immoral, it's illegal.

congress controls spending. if it's been approved by congress, it's been approved. any memo from the White House should be ignored. just as if Nancy Pelosi nominated someone to the cabinet, that would be ignored.

this is fundamental to how our government works.


The media doesn't help with these sensational headlines. Schumer spoke out against it and did point out it was not legal. But now, lawyers will have to be hired to proven it is not legal -- maybe.

If this happens, we will eventually be out of jobs.



I don't think people understand the extent here, if this isn't stopped, the damage will be incalculable. Farm subsidies? Rural hospitals? Any kind of infrastructure projects. I could go on.



Unfortunately, I think things need to grind to a halt, a couple of deaths related to hospital/nursing home funding problems, kids unable to attend college, general catastrophes before all Americans realize how integral the federal government is to everyday life. People are ignorant to what a positive role government plays in their lives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:besides being immoral, it's illegal.

congress controls spending. if it's been approved by congress, it's been approved. any memo from the White House should be ignored. just as if Nancy Pelosi nominated someone to the cabinet, that would be ignored.

this is fundamental to how our government works.


The media doesn't help with these sensational headlines. Schumer spoke out against it and did point out it was not legal. But now, lawyers will have to be hired to proven it is not legal -- maybe.

If this happens, we will eventually be out of jobs.



I don't think people understand the extent here, if this isn't stopped, the damage will be incalculable. Farm subsidies? Rural hospitals? Any kind of infrastructure projects. I could go on.



Unfortunately, I think things need to grind to a halt, a couple of deaths related to hospital/nursing home funding problems, kids unable to attend college, general catastrophes before all Americans realize how integral the federal government is to everyday life. People are ignorant to what a positive role government plays in their lives.


I fear you’re correct, but the only way it doesn’t come to that is if people are loud now and demand that their representatives do something. A single senator can grind everything to a halt—no Trump nominations until funds are released. Demand that your senator be the person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:more towards merit based


But not merit as likely defined by your narrow and not representative of reality view.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It looks like this doesn’t apply to individual stuff like federal subsidized loans and Pell grants?
The “green new deal” stuff is the craziest. I wouldn’t even know what that might encompass!


Every article I read has something different listed. One says yes, another says no. And both are from reputable sources.

I reached out to my SIL, who works in the Fin Aid office at a VA university, and her only response was "it's a ducking ship show in here today" so I'm assuming by those auto-corrected words, her work isn't great today.

Anonymous
"students who rely on federal financial aid to pay for tuition and other costs are not expected to see any disruption from the pause"

https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-day-9
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"students who rely on federal financial aid to pay for tuition and other costs are not expected to see any disruption from the pause"

https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-day-9


I'm hearing differently from my friend who works in an aid office. The broadly worded vague memo is putting everyone on edge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"students who rely on federal financial aid to pay for tuition and other costs are not expected to see any disruption from the pause"

https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-day-9


THat’s an assumption based on the idea that these are “grants received directly by individuals.” But in fact much of this aid is not “directly received by individuals”; it’s received by institutions, that then disburse it to individuals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It looks like this doesn’t apply to individual stuff like federal subsidized loans and Pell grants?
The “green new deal” stuff is the craziest. I wouldn’t even know what that might encompass!


It does not apply to ED programs like Pell Grant. FAFSA, etc. Read it
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like this doesn’t apply to individual stuff like federal subsidized loans and Pell grants?
The “green new deal” stuff is the craziest. I wouldn’t even know what that might encompass!


It does not apply to ED programs like Pell Grant. FAFSA, etc. Read it


You should read it. It’s (intentionally) unclear what it applies to. But if you’re counting on the “direct aid to individuals” qualifier, you are mistaken. Pell grants are not paid directly to individuals.
Anonymous
This is all so wild. Owning the libs by screwing things up for the majority of republicans too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is all so wild. Owning the libs by screwing things up for the majority of republicans too.


i mean....think of the farmers alone.

sheesh.
Anonymous
While there is not official confirmation yet, since Pell grants are considered payments to individuals, they may not be impacted.

Student loans also should not be impacted. These loans are taken out by individuals, and even though they are disbursed to schools first, they should proceed normally.

Update At 9am PST: There are some rumors that Federal Student Aid will make an announcement later today that Title IV federal student aid will not be impacted by this order, and we will update if that does occur.

https://thecollegeinvestor.com/52686/trump-fu...udents-and-colleges/


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"students who rely on federal financial aid to pay for tuition and other costs are not expected to see any disruption from the pause"

https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-day-9


I'm hearing differently from my friend who works in an aid office. The broadly worded vague memo is putting everyone on edge.


The Office of Financial Aid/Student Financial Services at DCs school sent out a message earlier today saying that they have "not received any guidance that would change our use of federal aid at this time" and are moving forward with the processing and distribution of aid as scheduled until they receive word "from our financial aid policy experts and advocacy organizations, as well as from the Department of Education" that they should do otherwise.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-...d/story?id=118167742


NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/t...s-student-loans.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will this threat from the White House change your approach on which schools you'll apply to or attend?

The action seems like a way to try and control universities, and I figured this would happen with him at some point.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-budget-...d/story?id=118167742


NYT:

The Federal Funding Pause Does Not Apply to Student Loans and Pell Grants

Students and parents panicked after news of the order, but the Education Department said the guidance would not stop the flow of money to students and schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/business/t...s-student-loans.html


I thought they were next on the chopping block (re: Trump promises.)
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