Oh California

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I certainly don't remember this level of finger pointing and browbeating from MAGA when hurricanes devastated Florida last year. No accusations of incompetent land management, or failure to prepare. Apparently dishing it out is easier than taking it.

Because there isn’t this level of incompetence in Florida when it comes to hurricane preparedness.

+ a million
Quite the opposite, in fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Initially we heard it was a Tesla truck that started the fire. Now they claim they don’t know. Then they arrested someone starting a fire?

So if it was a Tesla product, think we will hear about it? Pretty sure Musk will get Trump to lie about it.

Amazing the pretzel twisting you're engaging in to blame someone other than the Democrats in charge of CA for their utter failure to prepare for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has been established that the budget was cut and the fire chief was not happy about it. This is not up for dispute. There is a reason why the fire chief said what she said during an interview. Whether the fire started by global warming or arson or the Santa Ana winds that happen this time is another discussion. The reality is they were not prepared and if you know that you have issues with global warming all the more reason not to cut off water from the north, make sure you are prepared in areas that are vulnerable, have a go to plan with planes etc-some of this stuff took all week. Why are they forcing fireworks from out of state do emissions testing first? This is an emergency just let them in. This has to not happen again. The concern is the progressives not willing to address some of the things that can mitigate fire if it happens. California is a liberal state but even liberal people are agreeing something needs to be reimagined. It is amazing how feelings change when you not only not have a house but no insurance or schools. It is a lot.

It has absolutely not been established. It is absolutely up for dispute.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lafd-chief-slams-budget-cuts-says-department-was-let-down/vi-BB1rfd5y?ocid=BingNewsSerp

I don't know Chief Crowley personally; but she comes across as a very intelligent, sincere, and honest person. I believe her and think she's telling the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has been established that the budget was cut and the fire chief was not happy about it. This is not up for dispute. There is a reason why the fire chief said what she said during an interview. Whether the fire started by global warming or arson or the Santa Ana winds that happen this time is another discussion. The reality is they were not prepared and if you know that you have issues with global warming all the more reason not to cut off water from the north, make sure you are prepared in areas that are vulnerable, have a go to plan with planes etc-some of this stuff took all week. Why are they forcing fireworks from out of state do emissions testing first? This is an emergency just let them in. This has to not happen again. The concern is the progressives not willing to address some of the things that can mitigate fire if it happens. California is a liberal state but even liberal people are agreeing something needs to be reimagined. It is amazing how feelings change when you not only not have a house but no insurance or schools. It is a lot.

It has absolutely not been established. It is absolutely up for dispute.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lafd-chief-slams-budget-cuts-says-department-was-let-down/vi-BB1rfd5y?ocid=BingNewsSerp

I don't know Chief Crowley personally; but she comes across as a very intelligent, sincere, and honest person. I believe her and think she's telling the truth.

I agree. And she could easily have been fired for speaking the truth here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has been established that the budget was cut and the fire chief was not happy about it. This is not up for dispute. There is a reason why the fire chief said what she said during an interview. Whether the fire started by global warming or arson or the Santa Ana winds that happen this time is another discussion. The reality is they were not prepared and if you know that you have issues with global warming all the more reason not to cut off water from the north, make sure you are prepared in areas that are vulnerable, have a go to plan with planes etc-some of this stuff took all week. Why are they forcing fireworks from out of state do emissions testing first? This is an emergency just let them in. This has to not happen again. The concern is the progressives not willing to address some of the things that can mitigate fire if it happens. California is a liberal state but even liberal people are agreeing something needs to be reimagined. It is amazing how feelings change when you not only not have a house but no insurance or schools. It is a lot.

It has absolutely not been established. It is absolutely up for dispute.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lafd-chief-slams-budget-cuts-says-department-was-let-down/vi-BB1rfd5y?ocid=BingNewsSerp

I don't know Chief Crowley personally; but she comes across as a very intelligent, sincere, and honest person. I believe her and think she's telling the truth.

I agree. And she could easily have been fired for speaking the truth here.

PP here. +1 for sure

[Anonymous]

It’s amazing that folks are looking for someone to blame when Wind is the biggest contributor to the fires spreading.

There are somewhat above some things to be learned for sure and some issues that if not present would have helped. But overall mych of What will come out of this will be things that cost money.

Much attention is being paid to the 17M cut from the fire department budget but most folks haven’t asked why? What other cuts were made or other things allocated funds?
California has great fire related building codes. Should they have made every building built before said codes be retrofitted or knocked down and rebuilt? Should the prioritize fire emergency over earthquake preparedness or police and public safety?

And while folks are talking about the impact and pointing fingers, they may want to remember how important Cali is to the US economy.

[Anonymous]

James Woods first reported his house was gone. Not so, just returned home and still standing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Initially we heard it was a Tesla truck that started the fire. Now they claim they don’t know. Then they arrested someone starting a fire?

So if it was a Tesla product, think we will hear about it? Pretty sure Musk will get Trump to lie about it.

Amazing the pretzel twisting you're engaging in to blame someone other than the Democrats in charge of CA for their utter failure to prepare for this.

Well since republicans are on here trying to point blame to democrats, we might as well look at all sides.

This really shouldn’t even be a political issue. I don’t think any one tried to make Hawaii fires political. Gee, what changed? Oh yeah, Biden was president, now just a lame duck president.

[Anonymous]

I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing that folks are looking for someone to blame when Wind is the biggest contributor to the fires spreading.

There are somewhat above some things to be learned for sure and some issues that if not present would have helped. But overall mych of What will come out of this will be things that cost money.

Much attention is being paid to the 17M cut from the fire department budget but most folks haven’t asked why? What other cuts were made or other things allocated funds?
California has great fire related building codes. Should they have made every building built before said codes be retrofitted or knocked down and rebuilt? Should the prioritize fire emergency over earthquake preparedness or police and public safety?

And while folks are talking about the impact and pointing fingers, they may want to remember how important Cali is to the US economy.

I'm not MAGA, and I'm not pointing fingers. I do believe the fire chief. Do you? (I doubt she's a Republican)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.

The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in California. There have always been fire stops, mandatory clearing of brush around rural properties, and the reservoirs were full for the last several years due to above average rainfall. But Conservatives don’t like to hear that.

That’s not what current local officials are reporting. Do you know more than them just because you grew up there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.

The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.

It is arson.

I have several old friends who live in LA and have had to evacuate. They all saw people with blowtorches walking around. One has Ring footage on the cloud of a guy torching her house. It’s not just the dude who got let off by the mayor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wind, wind, wind. Wind is the thing MAGA keeps ignoring about these fires.

Yep! This is why it took so long to get help from the air. It was toooo windy to do it the first few days. It wasn’t because the planes and choppers weren’t available. They couldn’t be used

Wind causes fires to spread. Blowtorches start them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am here in the thick of it. It was the perfect combo of the WIND, the DROUGHT (climate change) and a coordinated attack of arsonists which we will know more about as we learn more. LA seems to be under attack. There are fires popping up within burn scar lines and none of it makes sense.

The Santa Ana winds have been around for millennia and so have the droughts. Stop blaming cLiMaTe ChAnGe on poor planning and the need to amass gobs of people into small spaces.

I agree with the arson, it seems very deliberate.

January is the rainy season. This is not normal or else January wouldn’t have been known as the “rainy season”.