Rank the Big 10 academically

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Northwestern
Michigan/UCLA/USC
Wisconsin/UIUC*/Washington*
Purdue/Indiana/Maryland

*If interested in CS/Engineering, then these would be higher


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Anonymous wrote:https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/lists/us-news-big-ten-university-global-ranking/


Don’t sleep on UW
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Anonymous wrote:if you go by lacrosse and other sports:

Johns Hopkins
NU
Michigan
Ucla
Usc
illinois
umd
the rest


You get points for using NU (people it is NU and has always been NU. It is in the sports chants from the beginning of their sports!) but are deducted points for Hopkins because they don't get BiG10 status.

NU
UCLA
UW (Washington)/Michigan
USC (deduct points for campus)
All the others
Oregon
Rutgers (negative points)

And massive win for their marketing with the most iconic ad ever. To GoT theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Urf7niNI2mQ



Michigan is WAY stronger than Washington.

For one, you’re talking about 46 vs 21 for undergrad.


I get it but there is a deduction for Ann Arbor. Frankly UMD should be down with Rutgers for location but I am being kind.


Ann Arbor is a great city. I take it you’ve never been there.


I agree. Probably the best college town in the country.
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Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.


This is correct.


Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.


I'm a Michigan grad and seriously, rating Michigan's accounting program over the one at MSU, or marketing, is ridiculous. MSU also has a great industrial psychology program and Michigan does not.

But I wonder why UCLA is higher rated than Michigan? Seems like splitting hairs.


Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now?
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Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.


This is correct.


Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.


I'm a Michigan grad and seriously, rating Michigan's accounting program over the one at MSU, or marketing, is ridiculous. MSU also has a great industrial psychology program and Michigan does not.

But I wonder why UCLA is higher rated than Michigan? Seems like splitting hairs.


Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now?


Is UCLA better than Michigan academically for undergrad?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.


This is correct.


Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.


I'm a Michigan grad and seriously, rating Michigan's accounting program over the one at MSU, or marketing, is ridiculous. MSU also has a great industrial psychology program and Michigan does not.

But I wonder why UCLA is higher rated than Michigan? Seems like splitting hairs.


Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now?


Is UCLA better than Michigan academically for undergrad?


I think they’re overall comparable on the undergrad level, but Michigan’s grad programs are better.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.


This is correct.


Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.


I'm a Michigan grad and seriously, rating Michigan's accounting program over the one at MSU, or marketing, is ridiculous. MSU also has a great industrial psychology program and Michigan does not.

But I wonder why UCLA is higher rated than Michigan? Seems like splitting hairs.


Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now?


Is UCLA better than Michigan academically for undergrad?

That’s what USNWR ranks. UCLA is also higher on nearly all global rankings, which primarily consider grad programs. Finally, rankings are dumb.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.


This is correct.


Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.


I'm a Michigan grad and seriously, rating Michigan's accounting program over the one at MSU, or marketing, is ridiculous. MSU also has a great industrial psychology program and Michigan does not.

But I wonder why UCLA is higher rated than Michigan? Seems like splitting hairs.


Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now?


Maybe it's not ridiculous because Michigan has the number 1 undergrad marketing program in the country. And accounting is ranked number 6.
Anonymous
NU

Michigan/Ucla/Usc

Illinois/Wisconsin/Washington

Maryland/Ohio St/Rutgers

Penn St/Michigan St/Purdue

Iowa/Minnesota/Indiana

Oregon/Nebraska

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"That’s what USNWR ranks. UCLA is also higher on nearly all global rankings, which primarily consider grad programs. Finally, rankings are dumb."

Ucla has been a fine school. But overrated now. Usnwr undergrad academic rankings has jumped the shark w/the emphasis on social-justice markers. Ucla & Cal test-blind? Ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.


This is correct.


Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.


I'm a Michigan grad and seriously, rating Michigan's accounting program over the one at MSU, or marketing, is ridiculous. MSU also has a great industrial psychology program and Michigan does not.

But I wonder why UCLA is higher rated than Michigan? Seems like splitting hairs.


Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now?


Is UCLA better than Michigan academically for undergrad?

That’s what USNWR ranks. UCLA is also higher on nearly all global rankings, which primarily consider grad programs. Finally, rankings are dumb.


UCLA is a great school but I wonder how much it is boosted in US News by its social mobility score. Michigan has more kids from high-income families so they probably don't do well on that part of the ranking.
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"That’s what USNWR ranks. UCLA is also higher on nearly all global rankings, which primarily consider grad programs. Finally, rankings are dumb."

Ucla has been a fine school. But overrated now. Usnwr undergrad academic rankings has jumped the shark w/the emphasis on social-justice markers. Ucla & Cal test-blind? Ridiculous.


I think UCLA and Cal might look at AP test scores if you list them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.


This is correct.


Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.


I'm a Michigan grad and seriously, rating Michigan's accounting program over the one at MSU, or marketing, is ridiculous. MSU also has a great industrial psychology program and Michigan does not.

But I wonder why UCLA is higher rated than Michigan? Seems like splitting hairs.


Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now?


Is UCLA better than Michigan academically for undergrad?

That’s what USNWR ranks. UCLA is also higher on nearly all global rankings, which primarily consider grad programs. Finally, rankings are dumb.


UCLA is a great school but I wonder how much it is boosted in US News by its social mobility score. Michigan has more kids from high-income families so they probably don't do well on that part of the ranking.


USNWR has been putting a lot more emphasis on that lately, so yes — I think it hurts Michigan and helps UCLA and Berkeley.

Michigan has a TON of money. Their endowment is the same as the entire UC system.

The only public schools with bigger endowments is the Texas A&M system and the UT system.

Michigan has the biggest endowment of any single public university and the 7th highest overall (public and private).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:if you go by lacrosse and other sports:

Johns Hopkins
NU
Michigan
Ucla
Usc
illinois
umd
the rest


You get points for using NU (people it is NU and has always been NU. It is in the sports chants from the beginning of their sports!) but are deducted points for Hopkins because they don't get BiG10 status.

NU
UCLA
UW (Washington)/Michigan
USC (deduct points for campus)
All the others
Oregon
Rutgers (negative points)

And massive win for their marketing with the most iconic ad ever. To GoT theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Urf7niNI2mQ



Michigan is WAY stronger than Washington.

For one, you’re talking about 46 vs 21 for undergrad.

What USNWR says isn't really a justification unless you agree with their methodology. Come on, they keep putting Princeton and Williams #1 when student and faculty quality would favor Harvard and Stanford or Amherst and Swarthmore.
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