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Northwestern
Michigan/UCLA/USC Wisconsin/UIUC*/Washington* Purdue/Indiana/Maryland *If interested in CS/Engineering, then these would be higher |
Don’t sleep on UW |
I agree. Probably the best college town in the country. |
Perhaps because it’s been ranked by USNWR as the #1 public university in the country every year for almost a decade now? |
Is UCLA better than Michigan academically for undergrad? |
I think they’re overall comparable on the undergrad level, but Michigan’s grad programs are better. |
That’s what USNWR ranks. UCLA is also higher on nearly all global rankings, which primarily consider grad programs. Finally, rankings are dumb. |
Maybe it's not ridiculous because Michigan has the number 1 undergrad marketing program in the country. And accounting is ranked number 6. |
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NU
Michigan/Ucla/Usc Illinois/Wisconsin/Washington Maryland/Ohio St/Rutgers Penn St/Michigan St/Purdue Iowa/Minnesota/Indiana Oregon/Nebraska |
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"That’s what USNWR ranks. UCLA is also higher on nearly all global rankings, which primarily consider grad programs. Finally, rankings are dumb." Ucla has been a fine school. But overrated now. Usnwr undergrad academic rankings has jumped the shark w/the emphasis on social-justice markers. Ucla & Cal test-blind? Ridiculous. |
UCLA is a great school but I wonder how much it is boosted in US News by its social mobility score. Michigan has more kids from high-income families so they probably don't do well on that part of the ranking. |
I think UCLA and Cal might look at AP test scores if you list them. |
USNWR has been putting a lot more emphasis on that lately, so yes — I think it hurts Michigan and helps UCLA and Berkeley. Michigan has a TON of money. Their endowment is the same as the entire UC system. The only public schools with bigger endowments is the Texas A&M system and the UT system. Michigan has the biggest endowment of any single public university and the 7th highest overall (public and private). |
What USNWR says isn't really a justification unless you agree with their methodology. Come on, they keep putting Princeton and Williams #1 when student and faculty quality would favor Harvard and Stanford or Amherst and Swarthmore. |