Rank the Big 10 academically

[Anonymous]

Michigan's in-state population hasn't been headed in the right direction for a long time. It isn't the same school it was in the 80s. The student quality won't be much different from Maryland soon (it isn't even all that different now). UCLA will be a clear #2 in the conference in the next 10-20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan's in-state population hasn't been headed in the right direction for a long time. It isn't the same school it was in the 80s. The student quality won't be much different from Maryland soon (it isn't even all that different now). UCLA will be a clear #2 in the conference in the next 10-20 years.

How is California's in-state population trending?

[Anonymous]

Michigan is overrated in the DMV. I recall threads where people argued it was clearly better than Berkeley.
Michigan and UChicago have a lot of private school proponents here (maybe bc their kids are getting in). I spent most of the last decade in California and those schools are not as well regarded there. UCLA would already be #2 in the Big Ten on the left coast.
On the plus side, Dave Portnoy and Barstool will help keep Big Blue relevant in football!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan's in-state population hasn't been headed in the right direction for a long time. It isn't the same school it was in the 80s. The student quality won't be much different from Maryland soon (it isn't even all that different now). UCLA will be a clear #2 in the conference in the next 10-20 years.

How is California's in-state population trending?

CA is so much bigger that schools like UCLA and UC-Berkeley will be more than fine. The scale is so different with the states. A lot more $$ in CA too (now and in the future).

[Anonymous]

Maryland and Rutgers are up and comers. Maryland in particular is the school I'd expect to go up reputation wise more than any other in the Big Ten. They were early investing in tech-related STEM and have a state with comparably high incomes and test scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan's in-state population hasn't been headed in the right direction for a long time. It isn't the same school it was in the 80s. The student quality won't be much different from Maryland soon (it isn't even all that different now). UCLA will be a clear #2 in the conference in the next 10-20 years.

How is California's in-state population trending?

CA is so much bigger that schools like UCLA and UC-Berkeley will be more than fine. The scale is so different with the states. A lot more $$ in CA too (now and in the future).

Well if you say so. I would put my money on the school with the much larger endowment though.

[Anonymous]

OP:Would be better to list all 18 Big Ten Conference schools when posing this question.

Ranking of Big 10 Conference schools should be done by academic program rather than university wide.

I am constantly surprised when I research specific majors at the various Big Ten universities. Lots of hidden programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP:Would be better to list all 18 Big Ten Conference schools when posing this question.

Ranking of Big 10 Conference schools should be done by academic program rather than university wide.

I am constantly surprised when I research specific majors at the various Big Ten universities. Lots of hidden programs.

You are right. Please rank all 18 schools by each of their 200+/- majors. Please also include certificate programs. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:OP:Would be better to list all 18 Big Ten Conference schools when posing this question.

Ranking of Big 10 Conference schools should be done by academic program rather than university wide.

I am constantly surprised when I research specific majors at the various Big Ten universities. Lots of hidden programs.

You are right. Please rank all 18 schools by each of their 200+/- majors. Please also include certificate programs. Thanks.

Agree with the bolded portion. Regarding the rest, you go first. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan's in-state population hasn't been headed in the right direction for a long time. It isn't the same school it was in the 80s. The student quality won't be much different from Maryland soon (it isn't even all that different now). UCLA will be a clear #2 in the conference in the next 10-20 years.

How is California's in-state population trending?

CA is so much bigger that schools like UCLA and UC-Berkeley will be more than fine. The scale is so different with the states. A lot more $$ in CA too (now and in the future).

Michigan takes 50% students from out of state. I think UCLA has to take mostly CA students. Can't really compare based on state populations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maryland and Rutgers are up and comers. Maryland in particular is the school I'd expect to go up reputation wise more than any other in the Big Ten. They were early investing in tech-related STEM and have a state with comparably high incomes and test scores.

Umd incoming SAT/ACT higher than all except NU, USC, Michigan and UCLA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP:Would be better to list all 18 Big Ten Conference schools when posing this question.

Ranking of Big 10 Conference schools should be done by academic program rather than university wide.

I am constantly surprised when I research specific majors at the various Big Ten universities. Lots of hidden programs.

You are right. Please rank all 18 schools by each of their 200+/- majors. Please also include certificate programs. Thanks.

Agree with the bolded portion. Regarding the rest, you go first. Thanks.

Typical.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland and Rutgers are up and comers. Maryland in particular is the school I'd expect to go up reputation wise more than any other in the Big Ten. They were early investing in tech-related STEM and have a state with comparably high incomes and test scores.

Umd incoming SAT/ACT higher than all except NU, USC, Michigan and UCLA.

Agree that Umd is a great school. But with test optional, hard to understand what SAT/ACT means. Also, UCLA does not look at SAT at all!

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Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.

This is correct.

Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.

Google is your friend:
https://ir.msu.edu/rankings

And remember the point isn’t that MSU is overall stronger than UMich. The point is that no one gets a degree in “overall.”

That doesn’t compare any of those rankings to Michigan.

Um. Surprised this has to be explained but a #1 ranking would mean MSU is better than Michigan…

For the programs where MSU is #1, there is no comparison.

For the programs where MSU is #2, chances many other schools beyond Michigan could be #1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These school are too big for any institution-wide rating to mean much. There are programs for which Mich State is better than UMich even if most UMich programs are, between those two schools, better.

This is correct.

Still waiting for someone to list the programs that are stronger at Michigan State than Michigan.

Google is your friend:
https://ir.msu.edu/rankings

And remember the point isn’t that MSU is overall stronger than UMich. The point is that no one gets a degree in “overall.”

That doesn’t compare any of those rankings to Michigan.

So, supply chain management.
Um. Surprised this has to be explained but a #1 ranking would mean MSU is better than Michigan…

For the programs where MSU is #1, there is no comparison.

For the programs where MSU is #2, chances many other schools beyond Michigan could be #1.