And the woman of my dreams just ruined it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should run far away from you.

Why? What’s wrong with my reservations?

She sounds awfully smart and your instinct is to run from that instead of get closer to it. That’s what.

[Anonymous]

Back to your cave, troll!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is probably one of those men who is only nice to women whom he is sexually interested in, so he assumes that all other men are like that, too. OP, some people, both men and women, are friendly and sociable to the opposite sex without wanting to boink them.

100% this. Women aren’t fully human in op’s world. They exist for sexual relationships. If they’re nice to a guy, it’s because they want to sleep with him. They can’t be nice to a guy for any other reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ironic that this is exactly the terrifying kind behaviour that The Woman is talking about.

This exactly.
Everyone in this thread that doesn't understand what 'naively friendly' means, it is a way to protect ourselves (women) from men like OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh yeah I don’t understand this. She says basically she’s almost always friendly because of perceived danger (which I get and also love daily). How does this translate to flirting?! Seems like OP’s world view is if a woman is smiling and making friendly conversation = flirting. Trust me, OP — that’s not the case.

Op here. I told her that makes sense because clearly that’s not naive because she senses danger. What she said after that caused me to pause. Present danger or not, you’re still going to be friendly because you’ve been conditioned to be that way? So woman are conditioned to be friendly with men even if there’s no perceived danger? That makes no sense.

Google Gavin deBecker and the "gift of fear." Yes, women are conditioned to be nice and polite, even in situations that make them uncomfortable and fearful. It absolutely makes sense, and when she puts you in the friend zone you should understand that her "interest" in you was likely to avoid hurting your feelings.

I agree and believe that women are nice in situations they’re uncomfortable with. But what I’m having a hard time believing is that being friendly is a woman’s natural default?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh yeah I don’t understand this. She says basically she’s almost always friendly because of perceived danger (which I get and also love daily). How does this translate to flirting?! Seems like OP’s world view is if a woman is smiling and making friendly conversation = flirting. Trust me, OP — that’s not the case.

Op here. I told her that makes sense because clearly that’s not naive because she senses danger. What she said after that caused me to pause. Present danger or not, you’re still going to be friendly because you’ve been conditioned to be that way? So woman are conditioned to be friendly with men even if there’s no perceived danger? That makes no sense.

Google Gavin deBecker and the "gift of fear." Yes, women are conditioned to be nice and polite, even in situations that make them uncomfortable and fearful. It absolutely makes sense, and when she puts you in the friend zone you should understand that her "interest" in you was likely to avoid hurting your feelings.

I agree and believe that women are nice in situations they’re uncomfortable with. But what I’m having a hard time believing is that being friendly is a woman’s natural default?

Why? Do you think being friendly can be a man’s natural default?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh yeah I don’t understand this. She says basically she’s almost always friendly because of perceived danger (which I get and also love daily). How does this translate to flirting?! Seems like OP’s world view is if a woman is smiling and making friendly conversation = flirting. Trust me, OP — that’s not the case.

Op here. I told her that makes sense because clearly that’s not naive because she senses danger. What she said after that caused me to pause. Present danger or not, you’re still going to be friendly because you’ve been conditioned to be that way? So woman are conditioned to be friendly with men even if there’s no perceived danger? That makes no sense.

Google Gavin deBecker and the "gift of fear." Yes, women are conditioned to be nice and polite, even in situations that make them uncomfortable and fearful. It absolutely makes sense, and when she puts you in the friend zone you should understand that her "interest" in you was likely to avoid hurting your feelings.

I agree and believe that women are nice in situations they’re uncomfortable with. But what I’m having a hard time believing is that being friendly is a woman’s natural default?

Serious question, op. What was your mother like?

[Anonymous]

Wow. I would say this is a troll, but I actually just think it's a dude who doesn't understand social interactions.

Here's a very simple tip: Women do not like to be told what it's like to exist as female by men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh yeah I don’t understand this. She says basically she’s almost always friendly because of perceived danger (which I get and also love daily). How does this translate to flirting?! Seems like OP’s world view is if a woman is smiling and making friendly conversation = flirting. Trust me, OP — that’s not the case.

Op here. I told her that makes sense because clearly that’s not naive because she senses danger. What she said after that caused me to pause. Present danger or not, you’re still going to be friendly because you’ve been conditioned to be that way? So woman are conditioned to be friendly with men even if there’s no perceived danger? That makes no sense.

Google Gavin deBecker and the "gift of fear." Yes, women are conditioned to be nice and polite, even in situations that make them uncomfortable and fearful. It absolutely makes sense, and when she puts you in the friend zone you should understand that her "interest" in you was likely to avoid hurting your feelings.

I agree and believe that women are nice in situations they’re uncomfortable with. But what I’m having a hard time believing is that being friendly is a woman’s natural default?

Because not everyone has read "The Gift of Fear" and knows not to be friendly to men like you when they think you're creepy and weird.

[Anonymous]

OP, are you a gamer who loves in your mother’s basement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, are you a gamer who loves in your mother’s basement?

Lives

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh yeah I don’t understand this. She says basically she’s almost always friendly because of perceived danger (which I get and also love daily). How does this translate to flirting?! Seems like OP’s world view is if a woman is smiling and making friendly conversation = flirting. Trust me, OP — that’s not the case.

Op here. I told her that makes sense because clearly that’s not naive because she senses danger. What she said after that caused me to pause. Present danger or not, you’re still going to be friendly because you’ve been conditioned to be that way? So woman are conditioned to be friendly with men even if there’s no perceived danger? That makes no sense.

Google Gavin deBecker and the "gift of fear." Yes, women are conditioned to be nice and polite, even in situations that make them uncomfortable and fearful. It absolutely makes sense, and when she puts you in the friend zone you should understand that her "interest" in you was likely to avoid hurting your feelings.

I agree and believe that women are nice in situations they’re uncomfortable with. But what I’m having a hard time believing is that being friendly is a woman’s natural default?

Serious question, op. What was your mother like?

I think he's used to women brushing him off. One can see why.

[Anonymous]

Who’s getting shot? I don’t get this post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh yeah I don’t understand this. She says basically she’s almost always friendly because of perceived danger (which I get and also love daily). How does this translate to flirting?! Seems like OP’s world view is if a woman is smiling and making friendly conversation = flirting. Trust me, OP — that’s not the case.

Op here. I told her that makes sense because clearly that’s not naive because she senses danger. What she said after that caused me to pause. Present danger or not, you’re still going to be friendly because you’ve been conditioned to be that way? So woman are conditioned to be friendly with men even if there’s no perceived danger? That makes no sense.

I really don't think you're gonna have to worry about it OP, because just by having this ludicrous conversation with her she now knows that you're an enormous red flag. You are clearly giving off vibes that if you were ever someone's boyfriend, which I doubt you have ever been, you would probably be completely controlling and jealous. Look in the mirror dude.

[Anonymous]

Clearly she senses danger with you. And rightly so. Yikes.